The Michael Mann poll

I think the "great ass" line was improvised, not sure about anything else.

Kinda sorta?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2G_8sizrAk

Finished Heat]. The ending was really great, the violent showdown, LAX tarmac location, sense of closure, final image, music, fadeout - all of it

Yeah, excellent use of peak Moby.

Ali is not that great in retrosoect

really? i thought it was kinda great

It's on my rewatch list. I'm gonna get to it before I see Last of the Mohicans for the first time, I can tell you that.

Ali is well made, great performances but it hews so closely I'd rather just watch footage of Ali and When We Were Kings.

that's p much any biopic about a sports star, singer, rapper, or actor for me

keep biopics to the eras where we didn't have literal film of them doing the things they were doing

Yeah I've still never seen Ali partly because I didn't feel like anything could match When We Were Kings.

I don't remember if I voted in this poll, but today I might go Collateral. I rewatched it not long ago and it was even better than I remembered. It and Miami Vice are two where I feel like he just went for it and made exactly the movies he wanted.

Those two put me in mind of Seijun Suzuki. Not as over the top as him, but some of the same prioritizing of aesthetics over coherence.

still can’t get past colin ferrell’s ratty little face in MV

Same

imo it's perfect for a redneck-in-the-big-city cop like that

It's perfect for a fiend for mojitos.

I like Ferrell in lots of stuff. Ratty face, expressive eyebrows.

I didn’t get this guy’s name, but I am in awe of his shirt pic.twitter.com/fBJKAz3uZj

— Katie Rife (@RifewithKatie) September 23, 2022

New faux Miami Vice film crew gear:

Mojito Pack has landed — ! @andafterthatnet https://t.co/sHV6X69Xpu

— Blackbird Spyplane (@BLKBRD_Spyplane) September 22, 2022

What’s everyone’s preferred cut of MV?

Here’s the Director’s Cut intro which is missing from the Theatrical cut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIUfABBCoaM

Nay nay to the director's cut, the theatrical cold open is perfect in every way.

the cold open is better but i prefer the director’s cut as a total experience

i 100% copped the MV shirt the second that email hit my inbox

directors cut all the way, i prefer the meditative open

I own the director's cut Blu-Ray. It's amazing. If they had included the theatrical cut as a bonus feature I might have watched it, too, but the director's cut is the cut IMO.

fuck, $52 with shipping for the crew shirt, can't do it

Finally saw Thief for this first time this weekend, astonished it has zero votes. Incredible movie, Caan is amazing.

i think thief had less cred when this poll was run, and/or was maybe less accessible. i feel like its reputation has grown in recent years.

"Thief" really sets in place pretty much all the themes he repeatedly returns to. We are what we do, honor among thieves, the sacrifices it takes to be "the best," etc.

I think Thief would score well in a re-poll. I think the Blu-Ray release brought it some new fans.

BTW, The Keep is on Criterion Channel this month.

Watched Miami Vice for the first time last night. Enjoyed the hell out of it. The whole thing was like an empty labyrinth (with lightning as the only guide), and that brilliant cold open a signal that Mann isn't going to value exposition. I liked Farrell - he functions like an avatar of the film's essential emptiness (the ending with Trudy notwithstanding). Also, good use of Mogwai!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN0uQLPAtm0

finished it last night. great book. does of course read like a screenplay. one completely uninteresting subplot, but otherwise fantastic. seems unfilmably long.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 06:32 (seven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I wondered what subplot you found uninteresting? I'm about 30 pages from the end and I've got no interest in the Chris & Ana story, also I don't believe it. It can't be that easy to do what they're doing, surely?

I'm really liking the rest of it though, Hanna vs Wardell is great and so was the flashback storyline.

yeah i think it was that one! i've actually been thinking about rereading it. the the big climax on the 105? or was it 610? freeway is incredible.

The set pieces are amazing, so well done. The first home invasion was brilliant.

Did this get mentioned? https://ew.com/movies/michael-mann-really-is-making-heat-2-movie/

The whole section at the Mexican motel, and the Mexico/border section in general, really worked for me.

Yeah that was all great

Sirens, flashing lights:

Arrow's upcoming release of #Blackhat on 4K is now confirmed to include Michael Mann's director's cut.

Pre-order ahead of Sept. 4 release: https://t.co/siWWu73zxj pic.twitter.com/h4Wf67pYmc

— The Film Stage 📽 (@TheFilmStage) May 11, 2023

Just ordered mine!

Amazon told me the delivery date is estimated in November now

Thought the bump would be for a Ferrari trailer. Maybe after the Venice Film Festival...

https://variety.com/2023/film/features/michael-mann-ferrari-interview-venice-festival-heat-2-1235701561/?fbclid=IwAR2aqT9FI7MbUgkhXKLMx1hRUUt-2gfaoPTqPtL98ZtyqKRGQPMIRMxgMDU

New Variety feature/interview

Canceled my pre-order of the Blackhat Blu-Ray until I'm absolutely sure it contains the director's cut. The current product description only says "the US and international versions of the film," and there's only one small cut that differentiates those two. Details here.

He must have liked working with Driver, since he's rumored to play the young De Niro in Heat 2.

Your link says explicitly that the BAM director's cut isn't on it

xpost

That was back in April, though; there's been some back-and-forth since then. First it was (they had found the digital elements), then it wasn't, the rollout's been delayed by several months...I'm pessimistic at this point but if it does turn out to be included (at one point a second disc was mentioned), I'll buy it in an instant.

It took me *forever* to find a copy of the director's cut online. I've got it but still haven't watched it, this just isn't one of my favorites.

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You really need to watch it. The director's cut is honestly one of his best movies.

Doesn't it mostly just move the chronology of a couple of major scenes around? Will it matter that I don't remember much about the theatrical cut, beyond the broad strokes? Like, I remember a lot, but it's not adding up to much in my brain.