New Apple Lust Objects

The failure of Windows tablets is largely the failure of Windows, right? I tried out tablets a few years and they were the suck wrt input; handwriting recog was ass, e.g.

xxxp yes, appleinsider have been on an amazing hot streak for a couple of years now and their ideas are intriguing to me.

they can easily make the same profits from ebooks as printed books - the students save the printing costs and the school saves distro costs and everybodys happy

i think it's fun to say "oh let's predict the future," but until an ebook reader comes out that everyone is happy with (i.e. students can take notes on them and highlight texts) books totally going away in colleges ain't gonna happen

Don't think there's a gap for a product between iPhone and Laptop that wouldn't be worse than either

Exactly. At least: not yet. But it does depend what happens with eBooks ... don't think that's going to be quite as fast a development as is being suggested on this thread, though.

i linked to this in the kindle thread, interesting--they're getting there with digital books but it's not perfect yet

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203577304574277041750084938.html#printMode

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/03/090803fa_fact_baker

lol like students read anyway, what matter is that they have FACEBOOK

i think it's fun to say "oh let's predict the future," but until an ebook reader comes out that everyone is happy with (i.e. students can take notes on them and highlight texts) books totally going away in colleges ain't gonna happen

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:38 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and that should take what like 4 years

remember when everyone thought vinyl records were going away when CD's came out?

sorry if that was linked in that thread too xxp to self

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/03/090803fa_fact_baker

― caek, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:39 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg old guy who collects newspapers doesnt like the 1st popular ebook reader - shocking

alls i'm saying is--it's fun to predict the future, we all do it, but none of us know what's really gonna happen with ebooks

joe is selling snake oil here college students arent going to use ereaders

remember when everyone thought vinyl records were going away when CD's came out?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:39 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and now look today vinyl is just as popular as ever! cds too havent been affected at all by digital music - give it up grandpa

omg old guy who collects newspapers doesnt like the 1st popular ebook reader - shocking

he comes around to it at the end, and he loved reading a book on the iphone

I've been using texts posted online rather than in a course packet for some of my courses for a few years; it means is that I can see how few students actually bothered even glancing at the text. I don't think it's the shittiness of laptop screens for reading that's preventing them from bothering.

and now look today vinyl is just as popular as ever! cds too havent been affected at all by digital music - give it up grandpa

???? cd sales are down, vinyl sales are crazy and through the roof

give it up grandpa

lol

the rumors have been substantial since I started following apple rumours

is the tablet going to be the size of a dvd case? or smaller like an archos 605? or bigger like 11"?

joe, i think his point is that the kindle is ugly to read, he has no problem with ebooks

i imagine it is the size of a macbook display--just the top half

appleinsider say 10", but they have been a waterfall of bullshit for the past few years. they were OK around 2000-2005.

if it's just a LITTLE bigger than an iphone/touch then what's the point

I hope it is the size of a 40" LCD television!

que im not sure if yr just fucking around here but there were less than 2m new records sold in the us last year - compare w/360m cds and 65m digital downloads - its a niche product

Don't think there's a gap for a product between iPhone and Laptop that wouldn't be worse than either

Could imagine my parents using one of these - while the laptop upstairs in the 'computer room' gathers dust. can't see them squinting at an iphone,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoboer/3226244527/sizes/o/

yeah, more cd's are sold every year versus than records (duh), but what i'm saying is, vinyl sales increased last year by like 80 percent over the previous year, versus cd sales which are way way down compared to downloads

http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2008/oct/05/entertainment/chi-vinyl-cover-1005oct05

tht mockup seems to be running full os x on something as small as an iphone

While CD sales continue a double-digit decline, sales of vinyl albums have doubled in the last year to 6 million and turntable sales increased 80 percent last year. The resurgence is being led not just by Baby Boomers nostalgic for gatefold album sleeves and the pops and scratches of favorite records, but by college-age consumers discovering the elaborate artwork of vinyl-album packaging for the first time, and entranced by the grittier, less-artificial sound quality.

just cause a few people still buy records doesnt mean that cds didnt destroy their market share

apple clearly needs to get into the vinyl record business

still loling at 7 incher up against the head from upthread though, iDick

therell still be printed books for a long time im sure - just not printed textbooks

oh shit they already did!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Records

well i guess the other half of my argument is, people were predicting records were dead back when i worked in a record store 1995-1999. people couldn't believe you could still buy records! now you can buy vinyl records at borders. and you're kind of doing the same thing with your textbook prediction--that's all.

what is the cd equivalent of books if OG books are vinyl

and also, que, serious question - do you prefer tapes or cds?

maybe someday far in the future textbooks will be replaced by ereaders but its not going to happen tomorrow and its definitely not going to happen because apple produces a tablet for no reason

Aren't vinyl records (like fiction books) - something that people enjoy and like the tangability of, as something fun. Whereas a textbook is a little more...functional?

i think its a lot more likely that textbooks will be replaced by printouts of PDFs distributed by professors or libraries & maybe a handful of kids will read on their laptops and bring their laptops to class and shit. i mean this was basically the case when i was at school last year.

and also, que, serious question - do you prefer tapes or cds?

hahaha cd's i guess! i like records, too, but i also love having all my music digitized on my ipod.

How many schools do you think will be willing to foot the bill for etextbooks in this economy? Because the students won't, not without drastic loans given the already astronomical costs of tuition and room & board.

It is much more likely (and already well underway) that all course materials will be downloadable than it is that all students will be running around with etablets in the next 5 years.

I think a large potential market for something like this isn't the college students so much, but silver foxes

text books have particular qualities that will lead to their quick digification - theyre expensive to print and distribute theyre heavy they would benefit from frequent updating and prob most importantly no one has any romantic attachment to them - the form as it stands now is pretty reviled

they'd be better releasing a headless macbook than a fkn tablet
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/54/171964882_2741164be5.jpg

lol Amiga 600

textbooks will prob be gone in 10-15 years but theyre not going to get replaced by ereaders--theyll be put online in some format and most kids will continue to print that shit out and read it on paper

maybe someday far in the future textbooks will be replaced by ereaders but its not going to happen tomorrow and its definitely not going to happen because apple produces a tablet for no reason

― max, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:56 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

youve got it backwards - the ebook market is one of the reasons why apple is going into the tablet business

maybe i'm being a fogie, but as a daily textbook user and scientific paper reader i cannot see me using them on screen with present UI (even kindle)