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Not going to happen.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

The tablet I mean. People be putting 7" things up to their heads all the time amirite.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

http://jamericanmuslimah.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/old_cellphone.jpg

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm really lolling at this because we were joking on Saturday about getting an iPhone the size of the giant fake display ones at the Apple/AT&T stores in the mall and it seems like Apple overheard us and was like "Actually...."

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:28 (fourteen years ago) link

e-paper makes a huge difference, too. the iphone screen is great-looking, but ePaper's still better to read on

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

seriously, the tablet rumour has been around for a decade. nothing has changed and there is no new information. i don't get this fait accompli.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The rumors seem pretty substantial right now, pointing toward 2010 release though.

The price is gonna suck on this, though: I bet we're talking US $700-$800.

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

i give the FT a bit more cred than AppleRumors, and it's no surprise that music biz is leaky as all shit, so that story definitely took it into "possible" from "no way at all", which is what I had been thinking

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:31 (fourteen years ago) link

"pretty substantial"?

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

there are 16m college students in the us alone - within a few years there will not be any more printed text books - once all those kids have ebook readers ebooks will become way more popular and more people will want ebook readers - a lot of people will look at the itablet and say o its a good size and shape for reading books its surfs teh nets sends emails etc hey I AM GOING TO REPLACE MY HOME COMPUTER W/THIS THING

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Thinking about this: fuck, all I really want is quality handwriting recognition on the iPhone. And a little stylus or something.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Look, an exclusive photo of the new tablet:

http://www.touchpodium.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/giant-iphone-mac-os-x.jpg

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

People are repeating the same stories. People are reporting on speculation. There is no primary source for this. It's just an echo chamber. It happens every time and it's always wrong.

The FT story: UK papers have never got an Apple scoop right.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

within a few years there will not be any more printed text books

Unless every school in America suddenly doubles their endowment, this is not happening.

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

(Apart from a music one, I think FT got iTunes Store)

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

fuck 1 stylus

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:34 (fourteen years ago) link

I get this btw: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2009/07/01/megnut-iphone

Don't think there's a gap for a product between iPhone and Laptop that wouldn't be worse than either.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

Good to see tablets being a success on Windows though.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

The appleinsider stories are the ones that have the air of truth to me, but of course this is just rumors. Def. not "always wrong" though: rumors about iPhone were around for a while.

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree w/that as well. Mac Pro + iPhone is much better setup right now than trying to keep desktop/laptop in sync or trying to use laptop as primary

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

xp

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Also, this current round of tableting is essentially a music one again

stet, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Unless every school in America suddenly doubles their endowment, this is not happening.

― Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:34 AM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

they can easily make the same profits from ebooks as printed books - the students save the printing costs and the school saves distro costs and everybodys happy

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

The failure of Windows tablets is largely the failure of Windows, right? I tried out tablets a few years and they were the suck wrt input; handwriting recog was ass, e.g.

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

xxxp yes, appleinsider have been on an amazing hot streak for a couple of years now and their ideas are intriguing to me.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

they can easily make the same profits from ebooks as printed books - the students save the printing costs and the school saves distro costs and everybodys happy

i think it's fun to say "oh let's predict the future," but until an ebook reader comes out that everyone is happy with (i.e. students can take notes on them and highlight texts) books totally going away in colleges ain't gonna happen

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't think there's a gap for a product between iPhone and Laptop that wouldn't be worse than either

Exactly. At least: not yet. But it does depend what happens with eBooks ... don't think that's going to be quite as fast a development as is being suggested on this thread, though.

grimly fiendish, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i linked to this in the kindle thread, interesting--they're getting there with digital books but it's not perfect yet

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203577304574277041750084938.html#printMode

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/03/090803fa_fact_baker

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

lol like students read anyway, what matter is that they have FACEBOOK

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i think it's fun to say "oh let's predict the future," but until an ebook reader comes out that everyone is happy with (i.e. students can take notes on them and highlight texts) books totally going away in colleges ain't gonna happen

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:38 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and that should take what like 4 years

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

remember when everyone thought vinyl records were going away when CD's came out?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

sorry if that was linked in that thread too xxp to self

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/08/03/090803fa_fact_baker

― caek, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:39 AM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

omg old guy who collects newspapers doesnt like the 1st popular ebook reader - shocking

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:40 (fourteen years ago) link

alls i'm saying is--it's fun to predict the future, we all do it, but none of us know what's really gonna happen with ebooks

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

joe is selling snake oil here college students arent going to use ereaders

max, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

remember when everyone thought vinyl records were going away when CD's came out?

― Mr. Que, Tuesday, July 28, 2009 10:39 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and now look today vinyl is just as popular as ever! cds too havent been affected at all by digital music - give it up grandpa

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link

omg old guy who collects newspapers doesnt like the 1st popular ebook reader - shocking

he comes around to it at the end, and he loved reading a book on the iphone

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I've been using texts posted online rather than in a course packet for some of my courses for a few years; it means is that I can see how few students actually bothered even glancing at the text. I don't think it's the shittiness of laptop screens for reading that's preventing them from bothering.

wide swing juggalo (Euler), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

and now look today vinyl is just as popular as ever! cds too havent been affected at all by digital music - give it up grandpa

???? cd sales are down, vinyl sales are crazy and through the roof

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

give it up grandpa

lol

cutty, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link

the rumors have been substantial since I started following apple rumours

is the tablet going to be the size of a dvd case? or smaller like an archos 605? or bigger like 11"?

lamb ankles (cozwn), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

joe, i think his point is that the kindle is ugly to read, he has no problem with ebooks

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

i imagine it is the size of a macbook display--just the top half

cutty, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

appleinsider say 10", but they have been a waterfall of bullshit for the past few years. they were OK around 2000-2005.

caek, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

if it's just a LITTLE bigger than an iphone/touch then what's the point

cutty, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:47 (fourteen years ago) link

I hope it is the size of a 40" LCD television!

Four-TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN! (HI DERE), Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

que im not sure if yr just fucking around here but there were less than 2m new records sold in the us last year - compare w/360m cds and 65m digital downloads - its a niche product

ice cr?m, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Don't think there's a gap for a product between iPhone and Laptop that wouldn't be worse than either

Could imagine my parents using one of these - while the laptop upstairs in the 'computer room' gathers dust. can't see them squinting at an iphone,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoboer/3226244527/sizes/o/

cherry blossom, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, more cd's are sold every year versus than records (duh), but what i'm saying is, vinyl sales increased last year by like 80 percent over the previous year, versus cd sales which are way way down compared to downloads

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 28 July 2009 14:50 (fourteen years ago) link


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