which is funny because Marcus lives in the east bay area I think
― brimstead, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
LOL. I guess he doesn't venture out that way very often.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
jimbeaux, next you'll tell me that Levon Helm was not in the Civil War.
No, but his ancestors credibly could have been, and at least his Southern accent wasn't fake.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 16:49 (one year ago) link
next thing you’ll be telling us that sergeant pepper wasn’t an actual military officer
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link
that paul mccartney wasn’t a walrus
I'm being at least partially tongue in cheek, but in all seriousness, Fogerty's schtick always came across as a little insincere. He wasn't a Southern boy, so why sing like one? Rather than a walrus, it's more like Macca pretending to be, I dunno, Irish.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link
berlin was from orange county iirc
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link
buncha posers
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
i’m a southerner and i welcome all to our congregationexcept tom hanks obv
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
Well, that explains a lot.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link
I get the point but I feel like that's very common in pop music, especially rock n' roll - to use Macca as an example, the Beatles and a lot of British Invasion bands sung more with American accents, especially early on.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link
(Early on also being when they were covering a lot of American R&B and emulating that sound)
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
LOL it would be far easier to list British rock bands in the 60s and 70s that didn't sing in American accents.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
hi guys
remember "Rocky Raccoon"? "Long Tall Sally"?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link
No
― I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link
Good.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
Rocky Rococo I remember.
― I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
I remember someone making the point that Bowie's success (at least with Ziggy Stardust in the UK) was a really big deal because here was a British rock star who wasn't hiding or diluting his accent or emulating American singers.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link
Having said that, I kind of wish Springsteen toned down the Dust Bowl refugee accent he adopted after recording Tom Joad.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
I'll be honest, as much as I love the song, I've never been a fan of the way John sings it as "I HOID it through the grapevine."
― pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link
― birdistheword,
yeah Ferry too.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link
xp I love CCR but I think it's just an okay cover. Fine to sit through despite its length, but not one of their great recordings.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link
OTM. Or "Proud Mary keep on BOININ'," which apparently he got from Howling Wolf.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
TS: Gladys Knight vs CCR's "Grapevine."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
Gladys by a wide margin.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
GladysMarvinSlitsCCR
Putting Marvin at #2 might be a slight, but man. It was not easy growing up with The Big Chill generation.
― pplains, Friday, 2 September 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link
I'm not a Lawrence Kasdan fan so I've never seen the Big Chill in its entirety. I revisited a few scenes when William Hurt died and people posted them, and they seemed to confirm what I don't like about his movies.
Having said that, Marvin's a firm #1 for me.
― birdistheword, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link
It was not easy growing up with The Big Chill generation
feeling this
― sleeve, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
The power of choogle compels you
― calstars, Friday, 2 September 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link
― pplains
My ranking too, but I love all four covers.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
Bowie sang in an American accent plenty of times. Marc Bolan on the other hand invented his own accent to sing in.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
― birdistheword, Friday, September 2, 2022 1:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
When Lennon was asked by US journalists why they sang in American accents, he replied that they only sang in Liverpool accents. Americans were never great at distinguishing between, or identifying, different UK accents, and were much worse at it in the '60s -- if a British singer didn't sound like Eliza Doolittle, then they weren't singing in a British accent, as far as US audiences were concerned.
(Jagger, Daltrey, Eric Burdon, and Paul Jones definitely tried to sing in American accents, though.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link
Americans not great at picking up on Scouse sarcasm either.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link
In the U.S., we do not have irony.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link
or ironing
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 September 2022 19:30 (one year ago) link
UKers trying to understand CCR lol
― calstars, Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:13 (one year ago) link
https://nobilliards.blogspot.com/2010/03/creedence-clearwater-revival-cosmos.html
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link
Hey, they had a No. 1 single in the UK, something they never managed in the US.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2022 08:23 (one year ago) link
I assumed that this revive was because of the new book by John Lingan:https://bookshop.org/books/a-song-for-everyone-the-story-of-creedence-clearwater-revival/9780306846717
I picked it up last time I was at the book store but haven't had time to read it yet. I did enjoy Lingan's previous book about the town that gave us Patsy Cline:https://www.bookforum.com/culture/homeplace-by-john-lingan-19961
― Sonned by a comedy podcast after a dairy network beef (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 September 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link
I kind of passively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux)
If you passively dislike Creedence Clearwater Revival, then I can never respect anything you have to say about anything.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
these are the ways It is known
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
Something like this has been said about everyone who sings in their real voice and it always sounds like bullshit to me. "Oh, before the Stone Roses we'd *never* heard anyone sing in a Northern accent before! Except Mark E Smith".
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:26 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOqo5Po462U
― mark s, Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
Now you're talking.
― Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 3 September 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
I am developing an app that will notify you when you are near a place that had a memorable CCR performance.
It's called Choogle Maps
― the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link
would download
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
I read another book about CCR, which I believe was by Hank Bordowitz. It's probably the most unhappy musical biography that didn't involve anyone dying of misadventure (it was also written before Fogerty got hold of his masters again, while Saul Zaentz was still alive). Fogerty basically spent most of the ten years between 1975 and 1985 paralyzed with rage, and his bandmates (and brother) didn't end up very happy either.
One of the revelations therein was that Fogerty's record contract required him to produce 36 master recordings per year. A master was any recording 2:30 or less; if it were longer, it would count as multiples against his contract. This is why there are a number of CCR tracks that are 2:35 or 5:05 or so - they would count as two or three songs respectively to fulfilling the record company demands.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
Way to stick it to the man CCR
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link
he was contractually obligated to choog! gotdam
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link
Lol, chooglin is 7:37! That’s just over 3 groups of 2.5 minutes!
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:07 (one year ago) link