2022 NBA OFF SEASON DRAFT FREE AGENCY TAMPERING ETC

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

i refuse to believe the cavs without lebron will ever be actually threatening but congrats to them, this is a fun outcome. they may have the least line up flexibility of any team in the NBA. they only have point guards, centers, and caris levert

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:06 PM (twelve seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

they need okoro to be a rotation level player

also mobely at the 4 and mitchell at 2 is fine really

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

also mobely at the 4 and mitchell at 2 is fine really

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:11 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

garland is a great shooter tho so i bet he'll end up off ball more. not having any shooting at the 4/5 positions is not modern ball.

mobely could develop as a shooter hes showed some touch

non zero chance he turns into an mvp level player, felt like he was just casually doing things no one knew he could do last year

very strong only scratching the surface vibes

yeah hes ahead of schedule for a big, already in the dpoy hunt as a rookie is crazy.

if his off the dribble threes keep getting better and all of a sudden he's shooting like damian lillard he could get there

talking about garland obv

yeah hes ahead of schedule for a big, already in the dpoy hunt as a rookie is crazy.

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:19 PM (three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

his defense is insane dont think weve really seen anyone play like him at his age

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago)

i mean this all sounds nice but they were only two games out of 6th last year and that was only because jarrett allen broke his hand & they lost a million games in the final month of the season. their expectations have to be greater than that his year after this trade

& as for all the time they have, they have mitchell for three seasons which means they basically have next offseason to get the team to east contender status or all the whispers about him leaving in FA are gonna start up

99/100 rookie bigs look like wiseman their first year xp

the big bully ball thing was a cute gimmick but if mobley is that dude then they should be looking to trade allen for a real 3/4 type player

if i was the cavs i'd be offering allen to the raptors for siakam or OG

allen is good but his type of player doesnt have a ton of value i doubt the raps would be interested, wouldnt be surprised if he gets moved at some point tho, but as far as them pushing to be contenders now idk theres just many battle tested teams ahead of them and theyre so young its gonna tough

cavs have plenty of time to fill in their roster gaps, bunch of teams in their primes ahead of them now anyway

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:09 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this years goal is not be in the play in i would think

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:12 PM (seven minutes ago)

i mean this all sounds nice but they were only two games out of 6th last year and that was only because jarrett allen broke his hand & they lost a million games in the final month of the season. their expectations have to be greater than that his year after this trade

& as for all the time they have, they have mitchell for three seasons which means they basically have next offseason to get the team to east contender status or all the whispers about him leaving in FA are gonna start up

― J0rdan S., Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:23 PM (forty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

who are they jumping in the top 5? i dont see it. maybe toronto? but they also have to grapple with the nets who theoretically should be better. I still see them in that 6-10 range
https://www.espn.com/nba/standings

well, if they make this trade and don't get any better that would be concerning to me lol

skipping the play in IS better

with good injury luck, and bad luck for other teams, they could make a little run but without that they could also easily be out in the first round idk mobelys 21 garland is 22 theyve not made if further than the playin its asking a lot for them to battle the big boys of the east

skipping the play in IS better

― Spottie, Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:29 PM (one minute ago)

they should be closer to 4th than 8th, imo

i will say the thing that points to them having a chance to compete with the top of the east this year is that they were actually by the numbers legit good when they were healthy last year, then add mitchell and a year of experience and they could end up ahead of schedule its not out of the question, but i wouldnt bet on it

Agree xp

even w/ the east getting better if they're just in the 7/8/9 morass next year this trade will look kinda like a failure. same for the hawks tho! the east will be fun

the big unknown is whether the three teams who really didn't do much -- miami, chicago, toronto -- are still as good or if they get passed up by the nets, cavs, hawks. i would be really concerned if i was a bulls fan...

bulls are sad man they made big moves and came up way short

it seems like lonzo is not gonna be ready to start the season?

maybe start but wont finish

from utah to ... cleveland. he cant be happy about that from a personal brand perspective.

sounds like the knicks and jazz were close on a deal then the knicks just up and signed barrett to a new deal which blew the whole thing up

New York had the assets package that Utah preferred and the sides seemed to be inching closer to a trade on Sunday night and into Monday, but New York balked on including Quentin Grimes into a trade with RJ Barrett to acquire Mitchell, sources said.

When guard Immanuel Quickley was proposed as a replacement for Grimes in the trade, Utah wanted three unprotected first-round draft picks as part of the package -- but New York would only do a third first-round pick that included Top 5 protections, sources said. Those packages would've included two second-round picks, two pick swaps and two expiring contracts from a third team, sources said. New York would've moved out Evan Fournier and first-round pick to a third team to spare Utah taking on Fournier's remaining $37 million, sources said.

New York president Leon Rose had been running a parallel negotiation with Barrett's agent, Bill Duffy, on a rookie contract extension and set Monday night as a deadline with the Jazz to get a deal -- or pause talks to finalize a new deal with Barrett, sources said. Barrett's deal -- four years and worth up to $120 million, Duffy told ESPN -- added a "Poison Pill" provision to his contract until next July and would've forced the Knicks and Jazz to restart talks with new deal parameters based on the extension.

New York planned to continue pursuing Mitchell, sources said, but the Jazz pivoted to the Cleveland discussions and never again engaged New York in talks this week, sources said. The Knicks had made a calculated gamble that they could still get a deal done for Mitchell. A New York-area native, Mitchell had been enthusiastic over playing for the Knicks, sources said.

ESPN story on the Cleveland Cavaliers landing three-time All-Star Donovan Mitchell in a blockbuster trade with the Utah Jazz: https://t.co/5KyccigjMk

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) September 1, 2022

knicks continue to baffle

D-MITCH!!! Cavs gonna go all the way this year. You heard it here first. Koby Altman = best GM of any Cleveland sports team in history!!!!

lets gooooo

did the knicks not know that poison pill refers exactly to being hard to trade or what lol

btw

The Donovan Mitchell/Collin Sexton blasphemy starter pack pic.twitter.com/huHVTj2Lmh

— Law Murray 🌚 (@LawMurrayTheNU) September 1, 2022

My biggest question about this deal: Does Donovan Mitchell want to be in Cleveland?

— Nate Duncan (@NateDuncanNBA) September 1, 2022

it is a good question

Anything’s an upgrade over Utah

i love this trade for the cavs btw, this is more fun than using mid first round picks and i don't think they should lose sleep over any of the players they gave up

i like this for the cavs too but I also believe that Danny Ainge needs to be immediately arrested and extradited to baseball

having another team in the league like OKC will be annoying... there has never been an NBA where two teams owned as many draft picks as those two, and the jazz still have other trades to make. but whatever

spurs have a small pick haul themselves as well

could get more if they do any deals for poeltl, josh richardson, and/or mcbuckets

im sure bojan will fetch another pick at the deadline for a contender looking for a scoring punch

The reaction to this is... interesting I'll say that

Overall this is how I break it down to an extent

Danny ainge got lot young players from Minnesota timberwolves Cleveland Cavaliers got young guy from Los Angeles Lakers 6 future 1 rd draft pick sweep 1 draft pick Danny ainge. New Sam presti Oklahoma City Thunder. Get lots picks young guys

— Christopher Seymour (@Christo73680282) September 1, 2022

huge if true

need to wait for magics take before i decide

idk if mitchell wants to be on the cavs but from a basketball and also fame perspective he should, getting in on the ground floor of an up and coming teams is better than playing for the freakin new york knicks

'The Cleveland Cavaliers have traded for Donovan Mitchell. I predict we will see him play a lot of basketball as a guard where he'll score a lot of points for his team, but I guess we'll have to wait and see when the season begins this fall.'

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