Is there anything the Labour Party can do to win the next election?

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KS saved geronimo from having to watch the world fall into ghastly ruin

mark s, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

yeah they've probably already started eating his buddies

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

'We all know what it's like with teenage children and I feel very strongly about this...this argument that children can make decisions without the consent of parents is one I just don't agree with at all' https://t.co/U1y6V1PvVZ pic.twitter.com/UNGy8fQA3C

— j (@jrc1921) November 1, 2022

KS very animated here as he springs into life to make a statement. You can judge the statement for yourself.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

There's something wrong with that room and the people in it

anvil, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 19:09 (one year ago) link

starmer at least had previously publicly said the right things on trans rights despite refusing to do anything about duffield & co. but coming out against gillick competence (does he even know he's doing that?) is extraordinarily bleak.

ufo, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

kier starmer take the budd dwyer challenge u coward

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 22:28 (one year ago) link

I spent my 20s thinking of myself as "lucky" because I was only thrown out for two days after I was outed to my parents as gay. Had it been that I was trans, I would have been lucky to even make it to homelessness because of my stepdad's bigotry. This is the kind of thing that could directly lead to the deaths of trans teenagers.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

Keir Starmer has given an interview to Justine Roberts, the founder of parenting and anti trans message board Mumsnet.

Here is everything Keir Starmer said about trans topics to Mumsnet.

1/17

— What The Trans!? (WhatTheTrans.com) (@WhatTheTrans) November 1, 2022

whole lot more bullshit from him here

after all this i'm labor to be whipped to abstain when the tories make their recently announced move to gut existing legal protections for trans people

ufo, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 22:37 (one year ago) link

thinking of all the shitty wretched nights I spent at Boys Brigade football practice and so on, just being miserable and easily targeted by peers, at the insistence of a parent who thought the best thing for me was to suffer that in a pathetic attempt to become more masculine (spoiler: it didn't work, I'm still fabulous) - it was awful, and I didn't even have it that bad at all in comparative terms.

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

He's an amoral right-wing social conservative and he's very bad at hiding it at the best of times. But he's certainly not going to try too hard to hide it when he's talking to mumsnet. He'll throw anyone under a bus this cunt - especially now he feels like the next GE is going to be winnable.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

djmartian at 11:11 2 May 08

This is the man to save Labour: John McDonnell

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

oops quoted two months ago ha ha still tho

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

McD get's a lot of shit from the left and he certainly isn't above criticism. But I sure do miss him, especially after seeing that video above.

calzino, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link

Despicable, pathetic little man.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 11:04 (one year ago) link

read that the mumsnet transphobes weren't appeased by this anyway because Starmer said kids could still socially transition with parental approval, whereas they don't think anyone should ever be allowed to transition ever. so once again he's appealed to nobody.

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

a lot of this stuff is an effort to appeal to or signal to people who might be broadly sympathetic to voting Labour and just want him to offer the fig leaf. the same applies when he tries to woo the LBGTQ+ community, trade unions, people who fondly remember the Labour Party etc

wearing wraparounds (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link

xp ofc, Stella Creasy did a q&a on there and every single question was about it, absolute lunacy

after several days on “the milk,” (gyac), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

No point in trying to please fanatics arguing from a deranged position of personal identity, you can never ever appease them enough. Better to just say what you think, although like his forebear Blair Starmer appears to think nothing whatsoever other than a vague sense of patriotic authoritarianism.

zeuhl's forgotten man (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

I think these people are (usually implicitly) arguing from a *collective* identity of aggrieved middle class whiteness not from unique personal identity - that's the only reason powerful men give a shit about what they have to say after all

your original display name is still visible (Left), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

pic.twitter.com/WlW0Yv3c93

— Dr Unpleasant #EnoughIsEnough (@drunpleasant) November 18, 2022

the pinefox, Friday, 18 November 2022 09:52 (one year ago) link

Rachel Reeves once took a ball off a kid at an engagement party and threw it over the back fence before shouting at the kid and making them cry, then shouting at their parents as well. The parents ended up making a "her or us" at the wedding ultimatum to the engaged couple.

— Sii (@skippy_0h) November 18, 2022

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Friday, 18 November 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link

this ghoul makes Jeremy Hunt seem like a human being... yeah I know!

calzino, Friday, 18 November 2022 11:03 (one year ago) link

He's not only one of the best MPs in Parliament and a fierce champion of the working class, but he's also an amazing friend and comrade.

I'm honestly so thrilled @IanByrneMP has been reselected as the Labour MP for Liverpool West Derby 🥳❤️ pic.twitter.com/3eNcyitH5e

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) November 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

this saved me organising my thoughts

I think that SCG M.P.s are often less bad personally but their presence lends legitimacy to the Labour machine that will ultimately grind them into paste.

That said, it is fun to see Harpin, Akehurst, and assorted Briefcase Enthusiasts eat shit every once in a while.

— Kier Hardly (@KeirWillow) November 20, 2022

Queremos cerveza (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

that's about the only good thing about it, even with the odds heavily stacked in their favour these ghouls can't even manage a stitch-up properly

calzino, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

Quite an interesting piece on the politics of that seat.

https://www.livpost.co.uk/p/ian-byrne-fights-for-survival

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 November 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

"Crick believes there is a “lot of resentment” from the Corbyn years, when left-wing candidates were parachuted into seats"

except this never actually happened

calzino, Sunday, 20 November 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

not only did it not happen, but they didn't expel any of the right wing scumbags who are running amok now ffs

Queremos cerveza (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

Michael Crick still has a job has he?

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

His current job sounds made-up.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 20 November 2022 21:51 (one year ago) link

“…michael crick?”

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Sunday, 20 November 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

Yeah, right wing scumbags accusing Corbyn and/or Momentum of doing all the stuff they really should have been doing but didn't is a thing

49 Percent Jesus (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 21 November 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

Don't think that's what Lab left should've been doing. It's really petty, very locally factional stuff, picking one member at a time. The couple is constantly fighting, when divorce is an option.

I don't know how you would go about this but maybe it would be a re-drawing of the party constitution. Maybe mass taking away of whips from some of the worst MPs and some that might be ok but are landlords, or have interests, for example. Jobs jobs 'Unions' like GMB are toxic and would be kicked out too. The problem is it would make it smaller at first, you'd maybe lose an election or two but overtime it's organised into something worthwhile with a coherent set of policies.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 21 November 2022 09:42 (one year ago) link

https://t.co/Q9S4AUq57O pic.twitter.com/rBODuLAP5P

— the penny respecter (@ChrisKPH) November 26, 2022

the pinefox, Sunday, 27 November 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

coke and sublime

nashwan, Sunday, 27 November 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

The 56D chess game continues pic.twitter.com/gbQMlLX2hU

— j (@jrc1921) November 29, 2022

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link

She's been staunchly, tepidly supportive of him in the hope that he'll suddenly be who she thinks she wants him to be. pic.twitter.com/QFaVPtlrfr

— Kamal Prashar (@kampra) November 29, 2022

the pinefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link

ah centrism. the vibes, the whole vibes and nothing but the vibes

this display name blocked by FIFA (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

Big Beast.

Straining the already stretched metaphorical applicability of the words both “big” and “beast” IMO pic.twitter.com/vkfPlWgP1z

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) December 20, 2022

the pinefox, Tuesday, 20 December 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Tend to agree.

Nobody’s going to be able to stop Starmer getting in, but for gods sake don’t encourage the creeping fascism of the party by voting for him. The task is to break up a party that’s made itself morally meaningless and create the conditions where it’s forced to alter itself.

— matthew collings (@matthew51691936) February 20, 2023

the pinefox, Monday, 20 February 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

do i want to click that tweet and read a bunch of maroons calling him a tory enabler? no sir, i do not

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Monday, 20 February 2023 19:12 (one year ago) link

when the Tories have been voted out and they aren't actually opposing or voting against any of Labour's detrimental austerity+ benefits and NHS reforms and Rosie Duffield is the new minister for woman and equalities, that will be the time to congratulate yourself that you weren't no Tory enabler in 2024!

calzino, Monday, 20 February 2023 20:15 (one year ago) link

Do you really think Duffield gets any women’s or equalities job before Jess Phillips? The latter would elbow the former in the face for shits and giggles.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link

no, I was just rhetorically using Duffield for dramatic effect!

calzino, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 09:30 (one year ago) link


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