like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

He:s cycled through so many right wing nutjob talking points I'm just waiting for him to get to bringing back hanging.

at least bringing back child labour is still beyond the pale ... for now

I wonder if he has any thoughts on British cheese, or pork markets for that matter.

whither comedy marmalades in our time of trial

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article364984.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1D25EEE5-B93E-1613-370F8B4705BB7694.jpg

"Rather than simply saying the answer to everything is to give out more cash, we need to look at the root causes of this problem," says Liz Truss on what she'll do about surging energy bills.

"And that's why I support fracking..." pic.twitter.com/9BpOZthVZC

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) August 25, 2022

these fucking people

Liz Truss has said she would be "ready" to use the UK's nuclear arsenal if she was to become prime minister.

The Tory leadership frontrunner said she would be willing to press the nuclear button, even if it meant "global annihilation".

I blame the parents.

Gammon hard-on scenario #1

destroying the uk/the globe/whatever in order to save it is the entire tory m.o. these days iirc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCehccEZzX4

We've reached the point where if I didn't have loved ones nuclear apocalypse would feel like a hopeful future tbh

Be good if we could just know more about the button. Big? red? do you get a message after pressing it asking if you are definitely the PM? The only person who can press the single button that exists...are you sure you want to continue or would you rather cancel? To cancel click continue or to cancel this cancel plea and continue the nuke click cancel

Only click on the pictures with mushroom clouds

click on all the squares with traffic lights before commencing with the end of human civilisation

"erm, do squares with traffic light poles count as well? this is too hard"

it's mainly the prospect of surviving nuclear apocalypse that gives me the fear, there are far worse ways to go than getting instantly vapourised by one of Putin's special military firework displays.

#onethreads

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/28/britons-need-to-be-less-squeamish-about-drinking-water-from-sewage-says-agency-head

There is stuff in this we all need to face. Less water for washing cars, but also less cars.

"Get a water meter: your company will install one free" says Sir James Bevan. Not a chance, pal. I appreciate it is going that way anyway, but I'll delay getting metered water for as long as it is possible.

These bills have to be written off by the state.

A worker on £30k pays £3,486 income tax and £2,399 NI

Energy bills are expected to go to £7,700 in April, up from £1,042 in 2020

Even if you completely scrapped both income tax and NI it would not cover the increase in bills.

The idea that tax cuts will solve this is deluded

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) August 28, 2022

it’s hard to know how things will shake out but one thing i am 100% certain of is that if Labour ever get back into power these ghouls will immediately insist that austerity is the only remedy for the unforeseeable spending they had to make during the pandemic and the fuel crisis.

Truss has 2 maths A-levels and can add up apparently. Speaking directly to the membership and dismissing universal "handouts" and promoting tax cuts that benefit only business and the wealthy as her flagship policy with vague wishy washy talk of targeted help for others is utterly degenerate in these circumstances, but it's probably been a winning tactic for her. This is turning into some scary shit, the foodbanks won't be able to cope with the massive increase in users. Pensioners and people with health conditions are facing winter oblivion, and this shitshow is still going on.

And if people fall behind with the payments, energy companies will no doubt pay a visit and forcibly fit a pre-payment meter. Although how you do this with 20 million households I'm not sure, which is the crux of the problem isn't it - driving the lowest earners into poverty is fine for the Tory electorate, driving most of the country into penury is unsustainable.

I didn't realise until recently how badly people with pre-payment meters are getting fucked now. Not had one for twenty odd years, so this was back in the days when you could put £40 on the gas key and it would last for a reasonable amount of time, like weeks iirc. Was never in the situation where I couldn't afford to cook.

food banks won't cope even without an increase in users. who left can afford to donate stuff to them in the first place?

do pre-payment meters still have that double-rate "emergency credit" which you're not supposed to use but inevitable do end up using?

The ticket fed electric ones used to have about £6-7 emergency credit on them, probably enough to boil your kettle, use your toaster and have a quick shower these days. When I got my first flat I was constantly in the emergency credit.

Acting like a PM already

Liz Truss has cancelled her BBC One interview with Nick Robinson which was due to air this Tuesday evening (30th August) at 7pm. Ms Truss’ team say she can no longer spare the time to appear on “Our Next Prime Minister”. (1/2)

— BBC News Press Team (@BBCNewsPR) August 29, 2022

bbc news editors haaaate shit like this because they are supposed to balance views across their programme output. not the same gravity as in a general election but they would have never agreed to give sunak that amount of time without a commitment from truss

hence the snark, which is slightly unprofessional imo but quite delicious

do pre-payment meters still have that double-rate "emergency credit" which you're not supposed to use but inevitable do end up using?

― link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

Yes, they do. They just raised the emergency credit to £20, because £10 would go down too fast. And yeah, we are getting majorly fucked.

It’s not looking great pic.twitter.com/VeaL41CD03

— Cobie (@cobie) August 29, 2022

Absolute morons thinking five days in the office a week again will be a moneysaver for most.

This is assuming the office can afford to pay the heating. Ditto the vaguely-defined 'elsewhere'.
Let's see if the Tories propose some govt-funded 'energy mortgage' wheeze, where everyone pays back the shareholders over the entire course of their natural lives.

A lot of companies have gone into a remote working model, and they won't be going back so they can supply a communal shower.

In London you see quite a few Offices for Hire, so I wonder if some of those companies will go bust as well.

oh, you have free shower places? nice.

If that piece affects anyone's thinking at all it'll be to make employers more keen on WFH, as buildings are expensive to light and heat and on top of that your employees will be scrounging all your leccy lol

brb going to walk 40 minutes to Newham council and ask if they have a shower I can use.

iirc the longer context of the shower thing was "at your gym" which is even more, well y'know

how much is gym membership these days? just asking for a friend who hasn't been to one since high school

The winners out of this will most likely be coffee shops. Employer gets rid of the office, home is too expensive to heat and light while I work so where am I going to go?

In London you see quite a few Offices for Hire, so I wonder if some of those companies will go bust as well.

Some will def survive as many companies want to have hot-desking hubs which they can also use for team meetings, training etc.

At least we own our building, and plan to sell it, so it'll likely be demolished and be used for a supermarket, housing or a warehouse facility - it's right next to the local (albeit, tiny) airport. One of my old employers is in a far worse situation. It took on a 5-year lease on a building that holds 500 immediately before the pandemic. On one of the three floors there are only two people working regularly and I know both of them. One lives in a flat so tiny he can't comfortably work there.

I pay £21pm for a gym membership in zone 3 London, it's much more expensive to go to the same chain closer to central tho

It costs me about £7 a day to get to and from the office, so my (half) share of household fuel bills would have to hit that before I was saving money by going to work just to shower and be warm

If you are someone on benefits or with caring responsibilities or you’re at risk to develop certain health conditions, your GP may be able to refer you for cheapo gym membership and/or the council-affiliated gym might have certain options that don’t require a referral. Good luck, Calz!

That probably would be a good move Suzy, but I don't think I could deal with the embarrassment of being the knocking on 50 loser guy with the beer-gut surrounded by young, healthy looking people! About 8 years ago I was doing 1-2 hours a day on the exercise bike and it really made a difference, probably need to get back to that routine, at least as a starting point.

Oh, don’t worry about that - you wouldn’t be alone and there’s always a de facto old person in the gym going verrry slowwwwwly on a treadmill.

"The winners out of this will most likely be coffee shops. Employer gets rid of the office, home is too expensive to heat and light while I work so where am I going to go?"

A coffee shop near me started charging extra to warm up a sandwich a few months ago. Think a lot of the local ones could be fucked like pubs. The chain ones will have pressures placed on them too.

Yes a lot of these small business places pay over five times that of a household energy bill. Times THAT by five and they're probably the most fucked of all.

It's fucked how "let's kill WFH" is being used now, as if there aren't a lot of people who have never had that option.

From October, central heating will cost at least £3.60 an hour (based on a 24kW boiler costing 15p/kWh). Running a computer will cost £1.25 a day. Boiling a kettle will cost more than 10p.
Expect to see a lot more people in the office. https://t.co/wRS7ASUJZQ

— Will Dunn (@willydunn) August 26, 2022

Meantime..

Germany’s three-month experiment with super-cheap public transport reduces carbon dioxide emissions equivalent to powering about 350,000 homes for a year https://t.co/kxD5dTie31

— Bloomberg UK (@BloombergUK) August 30, 2022

Someone tweeted the other day about their mum's caff in Leicester where the leccy bill is going up from £10k to £55k p/a so the cafe culture renaissance might be on hold. Think all hospitality looks doomed tbh. More likely to see us all fighting for seats in the local public library, where they haven't already been closed.