S&D: Sophistipop

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they had an awesome dream

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 16:58 (one year ago) link

Appalling and undeserved victory lap/nostalgia both then and now.

― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, August 24, 2022 10:08 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think about this song all the time for that very reason. It is hilarious to me that they recorded a reflective autobiographical paean to their storied history and wild success...and it's basically just about their previous hit album which was released like a year and a half earlier.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

I wish every band's New Jersey included a song like this, tbrr.

Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 17:15 (one year ago) link

I wish the NKOTOB's "Tonight" were included on Bon Jovi's New Jersey tbh

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

It's okay at best, dunno about "appalling," which suggests a Hague-worthy crime

I dunno, I liked his work with PSB and New Order

Jokes aside, I never knew this song existed. It is weird to hear

Vinnie, Thursday, 25 August 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

wow this song is insane. it's not good but it is fascinating

i don't think sophisti-pop is the right word though, it's all bizarre 60s psych-pop pastiche, totally different vibe

ufo, Thursday, 25 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

Weird vibes. Felt like a Bad Lip Reading song edited together from clips of different New Kids videos. But no, they actually learned choreography on (asbestos-filled?) sets with rain machines to lip-sync to this song. This is crazy. I feel like I'm going to come down with a fever. Thank you.

Also, Alfred take back what you said about I'll Be Loving You (Forever)

peace, man, Thursday, 25 August 2022 00:49 (one year ago) link

Agree with ufo, it's more "Sowing the Seeds of Love" than "Advice for the Young at Heart". I'd only call the latter sophisti-pop

Vinnie, Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:07 (one year ago) link

yeah that's a good comparison

ufo, Thursday, 25 August 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

I wish every band's New Jersey included a song like this, tbrr.

― Beautiful Bean Footage Fetishist (Old Lunch)

Well this came to mind, which also falls into the category of, "Song from a boy band's followup to a major album, where someone involved was clearly listening to Sgt. Pepper's":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zwKKXE18MM

MarkoP, Thursday, 25 August 2022 02:17 (one year ago) link

I'm also in the defence of "Tonight", more so the censored Adidas shirt.

B-b-BUT Take That's "Shine" is far better

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

Also I figured out ages ago that Jordan Knight being on the song makes him possibly the first person born after the 60s to do a late 60s Pepper pop whatever pastiche. I can't think of another until Betty Boo's Let Me Take You There in 92.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

Here's one from 1991: "A Funny Place (The World Is)" by Mitsou (born 1970):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzLN5hcA3Dk

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

Written by the much-older Ivan Doroschuk of Men Without Hats fame, the secret bridge between Mitsou and Voivod.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link

This is new to me but what a good'un. I was expecting something more like Dear Jessie (which I really like too).

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 26 August 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

This is the only sophisti-pop dedicated thread I can find. Anyway, the only real mention I can find of Shabason, Krgovich & Harris's Philadelphia is on Craig D's 2020 EOY list and that's a travesty because it's really lovely. Very much the ambient end of sophisti-pop but hangs together beautifully as an album.

https://shabasonkrgovichharris.bandcamp.com/album/philadelphia

New one, "At Scaramouche", is great too. Particularly enjoying "In the Middle of the Day"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgcT_Q0t2rU

https://shabasonandkrgovich.bandcamp.com/

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/eeBuRM1.png

pretty tempted to eat At Scaramouche

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 14 November 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

I ended up really loving that Mitsou song btw. Some inflections of Dowling Poole/Tim Smith's Extra Special OceanLandWorld in there imo

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 14 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

the Shabason & Krgovich hits so many of the right buttons for me...prefab sprout / destroyer / ECM / some very Hisaishi-like city pop synth tones. so much goodness both in the production and songwriting.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link


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