The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power series

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Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

Not impressed at all. Looks expensive and cheap at the same time. That Galadriel repeated line is terrible.

― Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Thursday, July 14, 2022 12:36 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

Abel Ferrara hard-sci-fi elevator pitch (PBKR), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

Any thoughts on the score? Most of the themes are very good (Numenor, Elrond) to instant classic (Galadriel), although the instrumentation is not as inventive as in the original films.

Still optimistic for the first episodes!

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

I've heard the score. Bland and I do not agree with your instant classic choice.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:05 (one year ago) link

Or the very good ones either! The vast majority of the pieces consist of slow start/choir/BIG CRESCENDO ending lather-rinse-repeat.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:06 (one year ago) link

yeah honestly nothing about it so far bodes terribly well

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

first ep is about cancel culture

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

Or the very good ones either! The vast majority of the pieces consist of slow start/choir/BIG CRESCENDO ending lather-rinse-repeat.

Just curious, but how often have you heard the score? It took me at least three listens to get familiar with the melodies, but now I'm humming them all day long.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

I salute your patience. I got through a listen the other day and was very bored and distracted with it by the closing hour. Doubtless exposure via the show will let things settle in some but there's nothing truly remarkable out of the gate -- and as you noted, nowhere near the level of instrumentation inspiration that Shore brought. There's literally not a single musical moment as suddenly thrilling and memorable as that hardringar melody that's the core of the Rohan theme, for instance. (Also I'm convinced McCreary thinks that choirs were used on nearly every single piece Shore created, which is so not the case!)

The most memorable moment in this new score is the interesting plot-driven one where the Dwarves 'sing' to know the rocks and where to mine; it's a great touch and Sophia Nomvete pulls off something Lisa Gerrardish in the resultant track. But man does it ever stand out as a result.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

I listened to that, and then I let it play, so I listened to the next track. I understand there's Irish hobbits, now, Father?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

Faith and begorrah

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

Oh mccreary ended up scoring this? Zzzzzzz

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 23:48 (one year ago) link

Bear McCreary scores a million things.

Hit show is called "The Bear."

One of the lead characters on "Reservation Dogs" is named Bear.

Hmm ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link

Wake me when OpenAI is good enough where I can type "Silmarillion into a miniseries" and it generates something better than this. I bet it'll only take a few years.

Trailer saved me a lot of time.

octobeard, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

I mean...

https://i.imgur.com/6RCKph7.png

jmm, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

I did a quick glance (I want to stay spoiler-free), but most people here seem to be enthusiastic about the EPIC SCALE and visuals. Not a lot of talk about the story or dialogue, but did I mention the EPIC SCALE?

https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2022/08/23/114542-first-impressions-of-the-rings-of-power-as-social-media-embargo-lifts/

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

"Don't worry, it's nothing like The Silmarillion!"

Really, really fun. I remember buying the Silmarillion as a schoolboy when it was published and it very much not being the prequel I was hoping for. This is the sort of thing I wanted to experience back then. I'll watch the whole series when it drops, with enthusiasm. https://t.co/eEcGJvCOjk

— Neil Gaiman (@neilhimself) August 24, 2022

jmm, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link

Such epic much wow

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

Gaiman gonna kiss their ass so that Amazon gives him some of that cash after Netflix cancels "Sandman."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

ha i thought the same thing

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

Was wondering when the embargo would finally lift.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

a negative review emerges

https://www.washingtonpost.com/tv/2022/08/31/lord-rings-tv-show-review/

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

lol

groovypanda, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

Is there a double or triple episode drop this weekend or will it be just one a week?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link

“game of thrones” does this mean balrog sex or

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

xp - Two episodes this week, then one every week.

ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link

Yup. Here's the schedule overall

https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2022/08/16/114402-the-rings-of-power-full-airing-schedule-is-now-available/

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

The first season alone cost $465 million, according to the Hollywood Reporter

So... $250 million for rights, $465 million for season 1, and four more seasons to go?

jmm, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

the rights presumably only need to be bought once

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Money money money

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

Looking at the trailer, the series aspires to be the animated version of the front cover illustrations from a thousand swords-and-dragons books. Lots of eye candy, but the whole package delivered by rote.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 August 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Well having seen the first episode via the free screenings tonight…

Yeah, I’ll have a lot to say later. Money’s on the screen. Music worked better in context. Cast generally acquit themselves well.

But oh are there negatives. And I’ll leave it at that!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2022 04:56 (one year ago) link

Anyway our latest episode is live in the meantime. Recorded on Sunday so some of my thoughts in particular are slightly outdated but anyway...

https://www.megaphonic.fm/bythebywater/42

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

While we wait

i fixed it pic.twitter.com/tmMvmpdu3w

— joolsd (@joolsd) September 1, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Also!

i think it looks good pic.twitter.com/f0uRix1qMt

— Patrick (@Pizza_Suplex) September 1, 2022

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 September 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

lmao

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 1 September 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Yeah my anticipation for this is officially in the basement, but I'll probably check out the first ep or two regardless

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 1 September 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

my anticipation for this is in the backyard having a smoke waiting for ppl to do the heavy lifting for me

also i feel like the tolkien of it all is just a trick to get me to watch an incomprehensible borefest full of elves

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 2 September 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link

Seconded

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 2 September 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

Well the three of us podcast cohosts watched it here via a jury-rigged Watch Party -- I'd already seen it the previous evening as well via the special screenings -- and...the trick comment re VG's post is not entirely far off. We all have our different takes on it but I'm officially the most generous of them, and boy howdy, this is a mix of technical accomplishment, good casting, a couple of individual moments that are very Tolkien in the best way and a whole looooooot of CHOICES re story/dialogue that, phew. It would absolutely work better if it was a separate non-Tolkien story entirely (and even then it would not entirely succeed).

I fear if dmac sees it he will die so I hope he does not.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link

From my cohost Jared and I would agree with this. But keep the implication of the opening sentence in mind.

There are bright spots. Almost all of the actors are doing their best—Morfydd Clark, Ismail Cruz Cordova, Sophia Nomvete, and Nazanin Boniadi are all somehow able to feel like real personalities. And Valinor as a strangely ominous Twilight Zone presence is great.

— Jared Pechaček (@vandroidhelsing) September 2, 2022

Ned Raggett, Friday, 2 September 2022 03:56 (one year ago) link

Not had a chance to watch it yet but filesize on torrent sites is pretty large so is it like really long.

Stevolende, Friday, 2 September 2022 08:15 (one year ago) link

It was good. Looks unbelievable. The main overall arc will probably be strong, the challenge is breathing life into the various storylines on the side. Getting us to care.

Will say, dwarves were largerly non-present in Jackson's movies and Durin's a lot better than Gimli already. Kazad dum probably the most exciting new world to explore.

abcfsk, Friday, 2 September 2022 08:19 (one year ago) link

Casting unknown/lesser known actors certainly helps the suspension of disbelief.

GoT ended up like a west end panto with famous people popping up in every role, camera winking and pay-cheque pocketing increasingly visible to the audience.

I liked it but the real test will be putting it in front of the 9 and 13 year old..

my opinionation (Hamildan), Friday, 2 September 2022 09:26 (one year ago) link

My spies have informed me that there is OIRISHNESS in this, so the little curiosity I had about it has now evaporated. But I will watch it with the husband just to be sociable.

trishyb, Friday, 2 September 2022 10:26 (one year ago) link

Yeah, those nice Home Counties Hobbits are revealed to have evolved from mud-spattered leprechauns. I don't get how that kind of thing is still considered acceptable.

Vast Halo, Friday, 2 September 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link

Wife was pretty annoyed by the Irish Hobbits, and especially the music played in the shire. Her other big annoyance was that most of the male actors were "weird looking and not cute."

We only watched the first episode and I was kinda tired but I thought it was officially "fine." Nothing really bothers me about it (the music is bland at best, the Irish hobbits are irritating) but I didn't think anything about it was particularly inspiring or impressive either. I liked the snow troll fight scene, and it's sort of sad that a short action scene was the most impressive or memorable. Elves and humans both being hugely racist is a nice tough I guess.

ian, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

So fiurst 2 episodes are an hour and a half each?
THinking size of d/ld file bigger than usual. Like twice teh size and stuff.

Stevolende, Friday, 2 September 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

First ep was just over an hour

ian, Friday, 2 September 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link


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