kpop has been on a bit of a decline in the last few years, there's still stuff i really enjoy but it's not anywhere as consistently exciting as it was at its ~2011 to ~2017 peak. combination of the industry running out of ideas a little & not pushing forward in the way they used to + BTS's success leading to blander sounds in attempts to break into the west
but yeah not even "i am the best" making the top 100 was a shame, let alone say, "red flavor"
― ufo, Friday, 19 August 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
Yeah, I listen to less and less Kpop these days too (though Feel My Rhythm by Red Velvet will make it very high on my list this year). Just listened to IDOL right now, though, and it honestly sounded like a classic. One Direction didn't make gqom-tracks.
― Frederik B, Friday, 19 August 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
re: taylor the two best-liked singles from 1989 & the cult-favourite red album track placed and i would have been surprised if she'd done much better in this poll, there's a fair amount of contrast between the enthusiasm for her singles & her albums here
my suggestion to moka was to do "you need to calm down" as a joke #20
― ufo, Friday, 19 August 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link
absolutely going to be heavily campaigning heavily for "feel my rhythm" this year, and yeah i loved "idol", pretty daring and the last time BTS did anything really worthwhile at all
― ufo, Friday, 19 August 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link
Thanks to the poll runners and as always, the images were excellent.
Definitely good to see some things I only ever see discussed or praised on ILM make the cut - Sun-E, Javiera, Diddy Dirty Money, KING, Pachanga Boys, Richard Dawson - even if I don't necessarily like them all myself.
― Twelves, Friday, 19 August 2022 21:31 (one year ago) link
Hey everyone!
I really like what’s underneath the top 100, so just to let you know I’ll be updating the spotify playlist to a top 200.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 August 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link
Thanks ufo and Moka for all your work!
― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 19 August 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link
I like how Taylor Swift peaked at 72 and there are people saying that there's too much of her on here and others saying there's not enough.
She peaked at 58 and there's 3 tracks here. I don't think any artist this decade warranted more than 2 other than say maybe Kendrick. But I have him has my "Artist of the Decade". A lot of banal pop is preventing some real classics (Pick Up) and ILM classics (Simmy - Umahlalela, Rosalía - anything off of El Mal Querer). Shit even Low got snubbed a bit.
― octobeard, Friday, 19 August 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link
Playlist updated. These five were not available on spotify: #120 Joanna Newsom, #132 Blawan, #138 Guru, #157 Andres, #180 Destroyer
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 August 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
Damn lots of things I like in the 200-250 portion too. Might expand it later.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 August 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link
Done
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 19 August 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
I like Love On Top and Countdown but they are both so retro, I think Beyoncé transcended them in the decade
― Dan S, Friday, 19 August 2022 23:49 (one year ago) link
Completely memory-holing Cee-Lo's "Fuck You" and Kanye West's "Mercy" so we could fit in more Carly Jeppers, good work
― marcel the shell with swag on (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, August 19, 2022 1:02 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
love whiney obviously but name me a more timeless geriatric ILM moment than rolling stone’s rock critic complaining about dance-pop outranking [2010s cee-lo and kanye west]
― k3vin k., Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link
completely insane list lmao
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:40 (one year ago) link
whats crazier, two successive carly rae songs in the top 5, two susanne sundfor songs at all, or imago explaining that there's no afroPOP because this list is tilted towards POP
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link
dude, that is ilm
― Dan S, Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:51 (one year ago) link
my impression of Susanne Sundfør's music is that it is very morose, it seems almost absurdly gothic. I did like listening to it though in retrospect for this thread
― Dan S, Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
Yeah it’s a weird blend. She nails it tho
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:28 (one year ago) link
I had heard “fade away” before on the eoy poll and didn’t love it. “delirious” is the one that convinced me to listen to the whole album, voters where correct in choosing it as the best song, the vocal acrobatics are impressive.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:31 (one year ago) link
It’s almost classical music disguised as synth sophisti-pop.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:33 (one year ago) link
it's an album I want to listen to
― Dan S, Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link
I know there hasn't been a lot of talk about Billie Eilish on this board but still, by reputation alone, I thought she would be a lock for one song placing. So yeah my biggest surprise, especially with how much pop placed, is that she was shut out of the Top 100.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 02:59 (one year ago) link
my impression of Susanne Sundfør's music is that it is very morose, it seems almost absurdly gothic. I did like listening to it though in retrospect for this thread.
😀
Made my Top 10 Albums.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link
eilish didn't get great until her second album
― ufo, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:10 (one year ago) link
Her first EP is great!
― Panda bear, my gentle friend (morrisp), Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link
^^^^^^
― brimstead, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:28 (one year ago) link
Not sure if it was nommed but I would have considered voting for “bury a friend” or “everything I wanted” in their respective years. There’s too many tracks I’d place above those in an end of decade poll tho.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link
She has some great songs and some are worthy of a Top 50 placing but ILM didn't see it that way. and yes I'm surprised.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:33 (one year ago) link
lol
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:34 (one year ago) link
“Bad guy” doesn’t really sound brilliant to me. It’s just barely better than most mainstream music.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link
“Bury a Friend” or “Everything I Wanted” both got three votes. I voted "Bad Guy" in the end.
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:38 (one year ago) link
*and
― Bee OK, Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:39 (one year ago) link
That said I wouldn’t vote “bury a friend” over “black skinhead” which sort of have the same template. As much as I don’t like Kanye.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:55 (one year ago) link
“Black skinhead” is a great gym song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 03:57 (one year ago) link
When Susanne Sundfør's Ten Love Songs was new and people were talking about it a lot, it was commonly referred to as "Goth ABBA." Kinda funny, but also kinda true.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 20 August 2022 04:50 (one year ago) link
Goth ABBA is otm
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 06:53 (one year ago) link
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 20 August 2022 00:43 (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
not what i said, and this list should be goddamn grateful to have had any sundfor let alone two
― imago, Saturday, 20 August 2022 07:03 (one year ago) link
Thanks pollrunners!
It's always a bit weird for me to see stuff like Sondfor or Destroyer near the top of a tracks list - despite the fact that I loved and voted for the albums from whence they came - because they feel like they fall a bit outside the (airquote) 'public' notion of pop that I associate these tracks polls with, even though in truth those tracks are much less obscure to the typical ILMer (and indeed perhaps the public generally) than most of the more self-consciously pop/populist tracks that occupied the top of my ballot.
― Tim F, Saturday, 20 August 2022 08:08 (one year ago) link
voodoo chilli otm up thread although I would add anotherno future no thug no gucci mane means y'all were living in a different decade to me.was p sure that no kpop would place as mostly we all like different artists.
― oscar bravo, Saturday, 20 August 2022 08:20 (one year ago) link
Susanne Sundfor sounds more pop to me than say that track from The Knife. But then again our #1 and #2 are songs I don’t think I’ve ever heard in the wild.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link
Lana del Rey is another one. She’s quite famous but I’ve never heard her music out in the wild. Not sure what the context to hear her music would be. Boutique hotel lobbies? Hipster clothing stores?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link
Venice Bi…. Beach?
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link
Anyways I’d say The Knife, Todd Terje and Lana del Rey are more - or similarly removed from the public notion of a pop song than Sundfor or Destroyer.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
Lol sorry breastcrawl, when looking for images I think I found that one of Lana on Venice Beach and my brain changed the information when writing the title
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link
I can’t even seem to find the list, but did “Gas Pedal” or “Red Nose” place? what about “Bandz” ?In a sense I am glad I didn’t realize this poll was going on— from the partial list that I have seen and discussion, it seems like a lot of stuff that bewilders me made the cut.
― broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
The remix of LDR's "Summertime Sadness" was a genuine hit that got a lot of radio airplay in the U.S., and probably helped solidify her fan base, but it's true that she's now more of an art-pop icon and critics' darling than a chart mainstay.
― jaymc, Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link
xpost to table no; no; not sure which Bandz you mean but no
― rob, Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
my students know "Young and Beautiful" thanks to The Great Gatsby.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
I'm surprised "Wildest Moments" finished ahead of "Imagine It Was Us," though I'm partially to blame for not voting. ("Imagine It Was Us" would've been in my top 5.)
― jaymc, Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:41 (one year ago) link
Ah yeah forgot about that “summertime sadness” remix, that one was huge.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 20 August 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link