like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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yes that is a very good point suzy

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link

and it's just basically extremely unhealthy and garbage cooking advice

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

there are so many more gastronomically superior and healthier ways to survive being poor on a low budget, but she's stuck on poor are too thick to do learn basic cooking skills

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

but let's just help normalise foodbanks and give them awful recipes that will kill them in the long run. This shit really boils my blood.

calzino, Thursday, 11 August 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

OTM to the max.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

I've got a few of her recipe books - they're not short of curries, rice, daals - for exactly that reason

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 August 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

well that spaghetti hoops monstrosity I saw needs deleting from an abridged version with only the legit recipes that won't be detrimental to your physical and mental health, because it's not only unwholesome garbage it's also an affront to human dignity. Being on Universal Credit is already enough to destroy your will to live, no need to make it worse by making inadequate nutrition seem an acceptable long term option for living.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 06:34 (one year ago) link

i really do think the tories are fucking it

‘Liz Truss defends energy firms saying profit is not evil’

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-62513966

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:40 (one year ago) link

Reeves says they’d bring pre-payment bills in line w/ direct debit to ensure “no one pays over the odds for the same gas & electricity”

It’d cost £113m Oct-March

They’d reimburse energy firms using £ raised by fixing HMG’s windfall tax

I think my direct debit is just as much as a fucking I'd get with a pre-payment meter so they are already in line. It's plain to see from the costing that it isn't a serious proposal. The government will come up with something more ambitious than that and it won't be up to the scale of the crisis either. Aiming lower than an austerity government isn't fiscally responsible - it's just a worthless dereliction of opposition. Fucking joke party.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:51 (one year ago) link

Everything is just so careful about proposals (what does "over the odds mean"). Now I don't care for Mario Draghi, but no technocrat/politician has ever said "whatever it takes", and that statement was to calm the financial markets lol.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 08:57 (one year ago) link

Ofgem raising the definition of what "over the odds" is every couple of months doesn't seem to concern Reeves too much

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

Cons and Lab are in pretty much the same place. They don't care to know how people struggle, this is the world they've made and as it falls apart they will be least equipped to make the necessary changes. They'll be forced to do the min on a day-to-day basis.

At least the Cons enrich themselves and loot the public purse and know how to enjoy themselves. Starmer is just a fucking nerd.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

Even Guardian writers are turning into shitposters with his disappearance from public life.

If your house was on fire, Keir Starmer would give you a bottle of water.

— Frances Ryan (@DrFrancesRyan) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:23 (one year ago) link

lol yeah. I'm delighted Dr Francis has turned against Kieth. I like her a lot but found it distressing when she was stanning for him.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:28 (one year ago) link

A knock-on effect of their uselessness is an almost complete lack of serious discussion about what the parameters for action are. Brown’s intervention last week is probably the closest anyone’s come to making a constructive suggestion but even that was pretty vague. Would the government negotiating energy prices make a difference? Would taking the retail element into public ownership? Can you impose windfall taxes on electricity producers legally? Can producers be compelled to sell energy below cost price?

Labour engaging seriously, even to oppose proposals, would at least be vaguely informative.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link

They've got a cheek criticizing Johnson for disappearing when Starmer's been equally as mute and invisible.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:41 (one year ago) link

I think even Brown might have gone a bit further and more detailed if he wasn't carefully trying not to embarrass Kieth. His shadow cabinet is mostly garbage as well but he has that same dampening effect on them as well.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:52 (one year ago) link

media has to step in and outline what’s possible if politicians won’t, and they have to illustrate the tough choices people face, and tbf the bbc has been doing some of this (which i think shows just how bad things have gotten)

Which countries are doing the most to tackle energy bills? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/61522123

or

People can't wait for energy help - Citizens Advice https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62509970

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 09:55 (one year ago) link

I rang up British Gas to try and persuade them to lower my direct debit, just as a one off until there is more money in my bank. The call centre guy couldn't do it and was quite brusque with me. I was thinking fair enough it was probably the 50th call they'd taken like this, but I was quite angry and thinking fuck their bosses and fuck all the execs and shareholders etc.... And then a couple hours later I got a text from them: Just a few quick questions. First, how likely are you to recommend us?

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:15 (one year ago) link

lmaooooo

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

I’m with EDF and they’ve been after me for a meter read since the end of June. My meter is read every three months on the 15th (so due NEXT WEEK) so they can GTFO. The letters get more and more bellicose despite being plain wrong. I don’t do direct debits with energy suppliers and I am very lucky to have central heating and hot water included in my rent, where the service charge is roughly £30/month.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:45 (one year ago) link

And yet they plaster every email and their website with "if you're having trouble paying please talk to us"

just meaningless PR blather

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link

i’m with ecotricity and weirdly i am now in credit. my bill last month was less than £100 for gas and electricity together.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

Those with the least shouldn’t pay more to heat their homes and turn on their lights.

But under the Tories, they do.

Labour would end energy prepayment premiums, giving 4m households relief on bills.

This is part of our energy package to tackle the cost of living crisis.

— Keir Starmer (@Keir_Starmer) August 12, 2022



comments pointing out that this works out as an 18p saving per day - which would then be paid as tax back to the energy companies!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link

xp

mine, for both gas and electricity is £242 a month, whereas it was previously £118. I was seriously thinking about linking out my electric meter, but there is an anti tamper seal that I fear if I cut it then I might be in serious legal trouble, perhaps even the doing time variety!

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:37 (one year ago) link

I'm with Scottish Power and they reduced my DD earlier this year because I was in credit, now I owe them £300+.

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

Truss: "No solar panels, I want to see fields of fruit and veg"

Alarming effects of dry weather on food production. pic.twitter.com/cI9TTX4EPx

— Dave (@MediocreDave) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:40 (one year ago) link

We have spent so many years here documenting the failures of politics and now we are seeing the effects.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:43 (one year ago) link

yeah but have u considered that the civil service are woke antisemites tho

This is the most unhinged thing I’ve seen from Liz Truss on the campaign and that’s a high bar: pic.twitter.com/7Ael8SYpTU

— William Kedjanyi (@KeejayOV3) August 12, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 August 2022 11:45 (one year ago) link

Food inflation is going to rocket up because of this drought. Blaming it on Russia won't be enough if there is no food on the plate.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link

we're rapidly approaching german levels of "all antiracism is antisemitism" at this point xp

(also is there anything more embarrassing than british people inveighing against "wokeness"?)

Left, Friday, 12 August 2022 12:06 (one year ago) link

I shouldn't but I find it quaint and gently amusing and a nice easy shibboleth to identify fuckwits and scum

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 12 August 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

The essential Jewish value of being a business owner pic.twitter.com/JNrTJZXqn3

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) August 12, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 August 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

liz added: happymerchant.jpg

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

Subtext: unlike those feckless untrustworthy Muslims who keep voting Labour.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 12 August 2022 18:58 (one year ago) link

who also are also hated by Starmer's campaign team for deciding not to vote Labour in a byelection as a protest against the rampant and unchecked Islamophobia in the party. They just can't win really.

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

Oh sorry I meant to say they didn't vote Labour cos of their inherent Antisemitism

calzino, Friday, 12 August 2022 19:19 (one year ago) link

Lol

1) Lobbying. 2) Boycott & Divest. 3) An option we will reveal soon.

Direct action in this situation is counterproductive.

— Rescue Britain (@RescueBritain) August 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

We don't have anything do do with them, and for the record we don't have any comment about them, and just to make ourselves very extra-specially clear here is a comment about them which we agree with

Hi Pete. We dont. We have no relationship with DontPayUK, and have no plans to do so. Also for the record, we provide no comment about DontPayUK.https://t.co/VidyuU2ni2

— Rescue Britain (@RescueBritain) August 7, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:25 (one year ago) link

i'm waiting for the one organised by @GritishBas

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

rescue brian

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 14 August 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link

couldn't deal with all the angst of NOT PAYING. Like fantastic, now I'm 2 grand in debt rather than the current £190 and it's spiralling on and on the longer I don't pay it. Got more than enough stress in my life already.

calzino, Sunday, 14 August 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

It feels like Keir Starmer is working for the energy companies and this can be easily explained, with some research it shows he hasn't be totally honest about his conflicts of interest pic.twitter.com/xabCXuZOoy

— Jonny Mao (@JonnyMao) August 15, 2022

"we asked a director at one of the major energy companies what his position on nationalising energy was.. and he said it was an ideological position to take and not the correct solution."

calzino, Monday, 15 August 2022 11:47 (one year ago) link

obv a fake but a fake that is absolutely true!

calzino, Monday, 15 August 2022 12:02 (one year ago) link

They'll be lobbied to shit.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 August 2022 12:21 (one year ago) link

More debt great

Interest-free loans to be rolled out in UK to help with food bills https://t.co/Cz7lDboPBt

— Guardian news (@guardiannews) August 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link

ok as a one-off solution to people in desperate circumstances, but like with UC advances, the debt is carried on to the next month - then back to square one but even more skint.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link

North Sea Oil ran out and we are back where we started because we mistook what happened as being the result of the Thatcherite policy mix instead of the arrival of said oil.

— Metatone (@Metatone2) August 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 08:52 (one year ago) link


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