i don't mean to deny whatever your experience has been though. sounds like you've had some negative experiences and maybe have an axe to grind, which is fair. i guess if you think the logic of capitalism is constant brutal war of all-against-all it would make sense to frame basic consumer choices in terms of oppression etc
― the late great, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:24 (one month ago) link
if you are really interested in marginalization of women/queers though, you should check out how actual construction workers in workwear converse on site (and they may also be skaters, i've known several semi-pro skaters and surfers whose day jobs were with caltrans, since you can work all night for a month on a freeway bridge, make lots of money fast, and then take two months off, plus great health benefits)
― the late great, Thursday, 11 August 2022 16:26 (one month ago) link
if you are really interested in marginalization of women/queers though, you should check out how actual construction workers in workwear converse on site
there are different associations obv, but I think when you wear that stuff, this is part of what it evokes.
I don't think I'm preoccupied with marginalization or oppression.
they're obviously skaters, because you see them skating around the street with panache, but they're not dressed like "skaters" as is defined on this thread (i.e. not wearing technical skate shoes or skate brand clothing from zumiez)
Yeah, ed.b's post refers to tracing an evolution from when we were kids ourselves, and that's what i'm doing here too, i guess. I agree that this thread so far hasn't made clear enough distinctions between the past and current stages so far. It's true that for a time (relatively recently) most of the street skaters i'd see around here were wearing non-skate brands. But mostly it was very conservative, basic stuff. I think that's shifted more recently to Urban Outfitters-style 90's/Y2k reissue gear, chunky suede sneakers and all baggy everything. At least among teenagers and college students.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:02 (one month ago) link
Just going to add that the mystery of the general ubiquity of this stuff can probably be explained by the fact that the TJX companies seem to stock all their stores with mountains of it.
― Kim, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:09 (two weeks ago) link