flats with a wound G, perfect!
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 August 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link
sigh.
― ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Thursday, 11 August 2022 04:45 (one year ago) link
also i love the (apocryphal?) anecdote how some of joni's most unique tunings came about out of some form of necessity, i.e. saying "fuck this, i don't care if it's *wrong* it's the only way my song sounds good"
I read somewhere this was partly because of lingering after-effects of childhood polio (stretching issues for the fingers I guess), dunno if that's true though.
― terry and june as hauntological relic (Matt #2), Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link
It's in the 2017 bio.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link
So if he removed the G string, he's playing with just a gap in the middle of the neck?
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link
https://alchetron.com/cdn/ricky-wilson-american-musician-0bc2aa19-3bc2-46e0-be3d-ba593427425-resize-750.jpegfucking legend
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:57 (one year ago) link
there are apocryphal stories that nobody could tune his guitars but him, but I'm not sure how that could be true
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:58 (one year ago) link
Ha! That's so punk...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Thursday, 11 August 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link
Has anyone ever described Bob Dylan as "childlike"?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link
"childish" probably
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link
Infantile
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
children can be haggard grouches too
― birdistheword, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link
xxxp. yes, many times.
always mystified by the math of put Bob down to boost Joni.
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link
It's just weird. I don't think Cameron Crowe would ever describe Dylan, Cohen, et al. as "childlike."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link
math of put Bob down to boost Joni
Not at all my intent. The use of the adjective just caught my attention. I think it's odd to describe probably the best songwriter of her generation as "childlike." It sounds patronizing (and sexist).
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link
tbf, I hear childlike a lot for other artists, and it's usually framed in a complimentary way, or at least it seemed that way to me.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
absolutely. a rare gift when you seen and accomplished all that she has.
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, August 11, 2022 9:19 AM bookmarkflaglink
Underrated. Loved "Union Sundown".
― pplains, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q2jiRUVLgI
― dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link
Dig the lines on her face in self-portrait---as I said way upthread, when I first heard her first album, thee foreboding recall of "I Had A King," there was a sense of an Older Woman (in her 20s!), who had been through things, had carried some of it with her, all the way back to "Sisotobell Lane," and what sounded like memories from childhood, not forgotten in the city (didn't know about her being unwed teen mother, giving baby up for adoption, but that would have fit)
― dow, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link
xp Alfred that would be the Yaffe book - is it good?
re childishness,
Just when I think he's foolish and childish and I want him to be manlyI catch my fool and my child needing love and understandingWhat a strange strange boy
What a strange strange boy
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 12 August 2022 06:40 (one year ago) link
It sure is. As journalism it's impeccable.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 12 August 2022 09:34 (one year ago) link
thanks! I'll check it out
― corrs unplugged, Friday, 12 August 2022 10:04 (one year ago) link
Please tell me there was a Randy Bachman stamp.
There was a Guess Who stamp:https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/canada-post-rocks-out-new-stamps-featuring-canadian-bands-512290871.html
We had the Rush and Leonard Cohen ones.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 12 August 2022 13:23 (one year ago) link
Fuckin pentagrams on the postage stamps!
― pplains, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link
I guess the Guess Who only got a logo on theirs too because how could you fit both Randy AND Burton on to one postage stamp?
https://i.imgur.com/q6CciS7.gif
― pplains, Friday, 12 August 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link
With the Roxy tour and Miles comeback box, we've been discussing their 80s---here's one for JM's: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/sep/27/joni-mitchells-80s-how-the-canadian-songwriter-became-a-fearless-futurist-auteur
― dow, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link
There's an alternate-history Joni timeline where she ended up duetting with Joe Cocker on Up Where We Belong, so we should be thankful for what we got in the 80s.
― the cold light of today (Matt #2), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link
Funny how the Guardian article inadvertently reproduces the assumption that Turbulent Indigo was her 'return to form' even in the act of critiquing that notion. 'Night Ride Home' is like 'hey, I'm right here.'
― Tim F, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link
Yeah. could have used an editor's queries here and there---mainly though, did seem timely, what with the 80s of Roxy and Miles being discussed on here, and the new Miles box.
― dow, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:43 (one year ago) link
(And I've never having heard most of her 80s albs, am curious now--what's good, bad?)
― dow, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
I also don't think anybody would say that Joni Mitchell "towered over" the 60s.
The better songs on those 80s records took a long time to reveal themselves. I heard them at the time they came out but, even more than her 70s music, it's probably hard for a teenage boy to understand what she's getting at.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:54 (one year ago) link
Here's a list I made on another thread:
Post-1980 POX, chronological order:
Chinese CaféYou Dream Flat TiresGood FriendsImpossible DreamerMy Secret PlaceThe Beat of Black WingsPassion PlayMan From MarsStay In TouchFacelift
Nothing from Turbulent Indigo (too chilly) or Shine (uninspired).
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link
What's bad from this era are a lot of finger-pointing songs about societal ills and the media. She'd written songs like this throughout her career, but at this point they became scolding and self-righteous.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 28 September 2022 21:03 (one year ago) link
today I learned Joni tunes to 446 Hz because of her Irish heritage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbr78krY9hI
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 17 October 2022 08:13 (one year ago) link
I don't mind scolding and self-righteous when (a) the arrangements and singing are compelling ("Fiction," "Sex Kills," "Dog Eat Dog") (b) I agree with the targets of her scolding and self-righteousness.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 17 October 2022 09:25 (one year ago) link
xp: corrs unplugged - that youtube is showing as "not available" for me. what's the title?
― peace, man, Monday, 17 October 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link
Oh, regional thing I imagine. That's "Just Like This Train (Live 1995)" from the new (?) Stars to Read live album (which is a nice listen)
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 17 October 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
I just heard "Paprika Plains" for the first time in quite a while. What an epic tune.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link
Nazareth's "This Flight Tonight" is really something:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylW6sC6NNhY
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Wednesday, 9 November 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link
Not to go all Steve Hoffman forum but the recent remasters of the first batch of her Asylum albums sound really great, especially The Hissing of Summer Lawns, they breathe new life into the records I've known for so long (and I usually don't pay attention to this stuff). Can't wait for the reissues of freshened up Hejira / DJRD / Mingus / Shadows & Light; hopefully the second part will be released sooner than later.
― ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Friday, 30 December 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
I really like the remastered Hissing, but I'm so used to the way the (up until now) existing version sounded, very soft like on cassette found in a dusty old car, that it's a little destabilizing to listen to.
I do enjoy hearing those extra details (not to get Hoffman either) things like the edits in and out of Centrepiece being more noticeable now are gonna take a bit of getting used to.
― MaresNest, Friday, 30 December 2022 22:55 (one year ago) link
fremer didn't love the remastering (not to get all steve hoffman forum).
https://trackingangle.com/music/joni-mitchell-locked-in-asylum-box
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 30 December 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link
The HDCDs which became the standard issues in about 2005 all sound good to me, but I can’t speak for vinyl issues.
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 30 December 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
I don't think anyone will mistake this for the Hoffman forum until some right wing nut jumps in and attacks her for some moronic reason. (ex: "Joni Mitchell hates freedom of speech, too?")
― birdistheword, Saturday, 31 December 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link
The HDCDs came out in the '90s. I was used to those versions and always thought they sounded excellent, but was unusually bowled over by the new vinyl Hissing. (The CD set of the Asylum albums reportedly duplicates a track on Court and Spark due to an indexing error.)
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Saturday, 31 December 2022 04:33 (one year ago) link
Yeah, Same Situation is repeated, I wonder if they've sorted that yet.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 31 December 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link
couldn’t have happened to a more fitting song
― the shaker intro bit the shaker outro in the tail, hard (breastcrawl), Saturday, 31 December 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link
I finally listened to Dog Eat Dog a fortnight ago and was a bit disappointed as I went in expecting a lot more disjointed (and uptempo) MIDI frippery than I got. The Three Great Stimulants is a real keeper though. And Smokin' (live musique concrete?)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link
"Fiction" is my keeper: the one time she and the technology are in sync. That sampled EWWW after each example of fiction in the chorus works.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 00:31 (one year ago) link