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Unfortunately yes, most games are all about PvP. Although SF6 has a single player World Tour mode that has yet to be described. MKX and MK11 are the gold standard for single player content in fighting games, I've heard.

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 9 August 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

There's the traditional arcade mode too, but yeah in general something like SFV is all about getting you online (which I was very against but actually enjoyed).

woof, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

i know fuck all about SFV but the evo top 8 was nuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrAI7a6Shmg

> Is the point of fighting games though mostly online PVP though

yes for the pvp
no for the online which is a necessary compromise from the ideal of in-person pvp

but regardless, a beginner will spend most of their early hours labbing or playing against the CPU, in between getting destroyed everytime they play another human

chihuahuau, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link

Yeah, my bugbear is still that fighting games lack compelling single player content (except NRS games like Mortal Kombat and Injustice, and even those have a lot of online-only hooks to get to it). But there has been progress at least in the past 10 years of getting better tutorials to prepare you for fighting human beings.

Someone let me know if there's a quick good roundup of all the various Finals sets from this Evo?

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

It was a long time ago but I very much liked the tour modes in Streetfighter Alpha 3 and Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, and the practice mode in Streetfighter Ex 2 was fun

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

Good video, pretty solid advice.

One REALLY good tip he mentions that I wish I'd done years ago: just turn off the ability for people to message you. 99% of the time it's just awful toxicity; limiting to animated teabagging definitely was good for my mental health

Another good point was that it's hard to undervalue how much better it is to be playing against friends in person vs. online, it's a whole different life but sadly not a realistic option for most, esp. since Covid. I still stay in some contact with my old crew on Discord but haven't seen or played with any of them in years. (Also, everybody gets old eventually)

Nhex, Thursday, 18 August 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Granblue Fantasy Versus free on PS+ this month. I was interested in the single player, which is kinda cool, but the loading times - especially when you're fighting many successive 30 second battles - are atrocious
Also it's basically a console gacha game, so eh

Nhex, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2SQgjYmVYY

Pakistani FGC players use a different grip because the homemade arcade cabinets hurt their hands.

formerly abanana (dat), Friday, 30 December 2022 03:12 (one year ago) link

Love it! Great story and reporting.

Nhex, Friday, 30 December 2022 04:01 (one year ago) link

Currently unreasonably hyped for Street Fighter 6, despite rarely even venturing out of trial mode in SFV. I'm having a custom hitbox/button-only controller made and everything, and have been adjusting to using WAS Spacebar controls for movement in the meantime. I will never be cured of my tendency to accidentally jump on a fight stick so drastic measures were necessary

When it arrives I'll probably be like what the fuck is this thing

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 30 December 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

oh nice. I got a 2nd-hand qanba drone off ebay & switched out the buttons etc, and it made me think yes, yes, yes, I love fight sticks, this is how games feel to my inner 10-year-old. So I bought an enclosure from Blunderbuss Designs a couple of years ago, but only finally bought a brooks board & wired it up a few months ago (spread the cost, felt less like an absurd indulgence). It is such a delight, even without some giant fucking decal of a waifu slapped across it - just a joy.

I do not think I could change my habits to a hitbox (I have spent too long pulling together a barely functional F/D/DF+p), but they do look intriguing.

Also very up for VI. Just from beta noise & footage, it feels like it will hit

woof, Saturday, 31 December 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah no kidding re the waifu shit, not sure why I was surprised but browsing Instagram for fightstick inspiration the custom art is all just wall to wall creepy drawings of apparently preteen girls

One of the people who ordered from the guy I'm using just had a blurry photo of their cat sniffing the camera though which kind of rules imo

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 31 December 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

how about this one

https://i.imgur.com/hVn8Scw.png

ciderpress, Saturday, 31 December 2022 14:32 (one year ago) link

Haha I like it! It would certainly serve as a conversation starter rather than a prompt to flee the building as quickly as possible like so many of the others

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 31 December 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link

if it's actually Michael McDonald's stick there's a world of conversational options open

woof, Saturday, 31 December 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

After Ed Boon coyly teasing about Netherrealm's next game constantly for the couple years, the CEO of Warner Brothers Discovery unceremoniously announces MK12 in an earnings conference call, lol

Nhex, Friday, 24 February 2023 02:14 (one year ago) link

Haha. I like it when tedious dripfed hype campaigns for new games get subverted. Leak everything then stfu imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2347gyZp0U

Zangief looks fun! Moveset-wise he appears to have done a bit of catching up on all of the actual pro-wrestling that happened since Street Fighter II

Also, I love playing Street Fighter on a hitbox, no complaints whatsoever

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 24 February 2023 11:37 (one year ago) link

NGL I kind of thought this revive would be about Cammy getting pants.

Shartreuse (Leee), Friday, 24 February 2023 19:13 (one year ago) link

Capcom Cup was entertaining despite all the Lukes. Zhen is a great player.

SF6 Zangief has great animation. Lily looks interesting. Cammy looks extremely boring despite her crazy stage.

formerly abanana (dat), Saturday, 25 February 2023 17:39 (one year ago) link

I would pay money for a DLC where Luke dies in an industrial accident and is removed from the game

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 25 February 2023 18:22 (one year ago) link

I'll try to get back into SFV before 6 comes out (haven't played in years), curious why Luke is so broken

Nhex, Saturday, 25 February 2023 18:51 (one year ago) link

I've heard that Luke was the weakest character in the SF6 beta, which is promising.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 26 February 2023 06:13 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

SF6 is the first game I have ever pre-ordered.

Regarding Luke in SFV: Luke's MP fireball was the best "poke fireball" and his EX fireball was the fastest fireball. They made all of his uppercuts air-invincible, a mechanic from SF6 that wasn't in the rest of SFV. He was clearly better than any of the other shoto in the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9GDWhFKWbM

formerly abanana (dat), Monday, 8 May 2023 10:21 (eleven months ago) link

Been enjoying the demo & all the footage & yeah I am probably going to preorder but there's just something painful about shelling out for the deluxe edition bcz that will be the most I've ever paid for a game. I don't think I'm capable of waiting for the season 1 pass to get cheap.

woof, Monday, 8 May 2023 17:02 (eleven months ago) link

f it maybe I just don't want to play Rashid etc

woof, Monday, 8 May 2023 17:03 (eleven months ago) link

The S1 pass will probably be discounted long before it actually delivers all four characters...
But yeah, I'm with you, I don't want to spend that much upfront. I haven't played the demo yet but I'm worried about a lackluster launch and $60 is enough

Nhex, Monday, 8 May 2023 17:33 (eleven months ago) link

i'm always happy to just main a character from the base roster and not have to worry about dlc. i havent actually looked at who's in the base roster for this one tho

ciderpress, Monday, 8 May 2023 17:43 (eleven months ago) link

Classic 8 + Luke, Juri, Dee Jay and Cammy + 6 new characters - Jamie, Kimberly, Manon, Marisa, JP, and Lily. So, plenty to start.
I always look to play the new characters first. The OG World Warriors are always there if the new ones are trash. Ended up maining Laura last game pretty quickly...
Three of the four Year 1 characters are old ones anyway - Akuma, Rashid, Ed.

Nhex, Monday, 8 May 2023 18:21 (eleven months ago) link

ah yeah thats a good starting roster i dont need dlc. i can play cammy or ken if theyre not too different

ciderpress, Monday, 8 May 2023 18:24 (eleven months ago) link

I was having great fun maining Kage in V, so I guess Akuma's the closest I'll get to that for a while, though all of the new characters look worth a try. I'll probably just buy the sucker magic beans edition tbh

I really like how this game has balanced having 3 supers per character at different meter levels, and they're all situational and distinct, as opposed to there just always being a big imperative to work towards popping off your single cutscene-length ultra move that takes off half the opponent's health

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 8 May 2023 19:34 (eleven months ago) link

seeing it all written out, i think I'm good without - pre-ordered standard edition.

woof, Monday, 8 May 2023 19:43 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe I'll buy the other three individually to spite that prick Ed.

woof, Monday, 8 May 2023 19:44 (eleven months ago) link

I went for the Deluxe version, $96 Canadian, which I think is the most I have spent on a single game. Not accounting for inflation. I rarely ever buy games at their launch price.

Lily is the character I want to put serious effort into. I want to condor dive against fireballs like the AI would do to me in old games. Throw characters seem like they'll be good because it's an easy counter to drive impact. I'll be trying Akuma when he gets released -- my guy in SFA3 and what little I played of SF5. I'm curious to see if he still has a "vortex" with the drive system. It's interesting how the Drive system has made them rejigger the older characters. Dhalsim's long limb moves seem vulnerable to parry and drive impact -- instead of improving them, they made his fireballs better. Honda's hundred hands are worse than in previous games because their use is now as a counter to drive impact, having enough hits to break through its armor.

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 06:00 (eleven months ago) link

Will those Drive Tickets or whatever be able to purchase characters like Fight Money in SFV? Or it is just cosmetics for World Tour

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 May 2023 13:05 (eleven months ago) link

Seems like it's just cosmetics. Capcom's page says "Drive Tickets can be used at the Hub Goods Shop." Links to a page that says "Tons of items are available at the Hub Goods Shop. Use them to customize your avatar to your liking."

formerly abanana (dat), Tuesday, 9 May 2023 23:28 (eleven months ago) link

so, worthless then

Nhex, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 02:38 (eleven months ago) link

can't believe you don't want outfit 12 colours 15-20

woof, Wednesday, 10 May 2023 11:51 (eleven months ago) link

VF beat-tribe cup top 8 happening right now

https://twitch.tv/majinobama

chihuahuau, Sunday, 14 May 2023 10:15 (eleven months ago) link

Mortal Kombat 1 (aka 12) officially announced for September 14. Follows the in-story reboot following MK 11 Aftermath with Fire God Liu Kang remaking the universe. First Kombat Pack will actually include a Jean Claude Van Damme skin for Johnny Cage, which is funny since they tried to get him for the original MK and it finally happened.
It's an exciting year!

Nhex, Thursday, 18 May 2023 15:47 (eleven months ago) link

MK1 kombat pack characters leaked: Quan Chi, Ermac, Takeda, Peacemaker, Homelander, Omni Man

formerly abanana (dat), Friday, 19 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

Anyone messing with the Street Fighter 6 open beta this weekend? Pretty fun! Battle Hub concept that’s like an open arcade where your avatar can walk around and sit down at a machine and challenge or spectate whomever is neat. Game gets you into fights lightning quick, barely had time to take a sip of a drink between matches.

Aesthetically it’s kinda ugly though imo. Not too crazy about the art style and the whole create-your-own-avatar gooniness makes me feel like I’m walking around a Second Life space. And I’m vaguely annoyed by how they shove this Modern control scheme on you, took me a minute to navigate the kinda crappy UI to get it to default to Classic.

All set dressing though I guess, the fighting itself feels pretty good so far. I’ve already put in a few hours.

circa1916, Saturday, 20 May 2023 20:36 (eleven months ago) link

SFV was the ugliest street fighter's been imo, this one looks a little bit better. not bothering with the beta but i'll play the game when it's out

ciderpress, Saturday, 20 May 2023 20:50 (eleven months ago) link

I kind of want to spend like 30 hours labbing before I jump online, which you can't really do in the beta

I am NOT losing my first ranked match 😤

SFV is very garish, I feel like maybe the naturalistic aesthetic of 6 is a bit of an overcorrection the other way, but this is the most interested I've been to try a crop of brand new characters since pretty much Third Strike

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, 20 May 2023 21:13 (eleven months ago) link

I honestly preferred the look of 5 to this, though it’s been years since I’ve looked at it. Kinda in a Zoomer/Fortnite zone here, but hey, can’t blame them for courting the next gen.

The new characters seem very capable, people are kicking ass with them already. I’m just mucking around with the familiars because there’s not a proper training mode in the beta.

circa1916, Saturday, 20 May 2023 22:58 (eleven months ago) link

yeah no training mode is why i shant play the beta, i have a need to test every character's moveset thoroughly and identify my main before i go online, in any fighter

ciderpress, Sunday, 21 May 2023 13:46 (eleven months ago) link

in the beta, battle hub has practice mode. go up to an empty arcade machine and select solo training.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:01 (eleven months ago) link

oh, I see that other people can challenge you. so use an empty server.

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:19 (eleven months ago) link

I am NOT losing my first ranked match 😤

I am ABSOLUTELY losing my first ranked match. Planning an almost-but-not-quite perfect loss in the first round then almost take the second until I choke and start mashing sweep.

On PS4 so no beta but been playing the demo & I like the feel of it. The look I'm indifferent to - need to play more than Ryu and Luke.

And I’m vaguely annoyed by how they shove this Modern control scheme on you, took me a minute to navigate the kinda crappy UI to get it to default to Classic.

Accidentally defaulting into modern controls was a mindfuck.

woof, Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:30 (eleven months ago) link

Yes, especially right after they ask you if you want classic or modern.

Here's a spreadsheet someone made of the moves available in modern. Some characters look viable. Kimberly and Juri are missing a few normals but have everything else. On the other hand Guile loses his overhead and his upside down kick.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QQnYBUua2MnA6CYYXcOwVyQoTrzOw_3bN8DEfiqkJJo/

formerly abanana (dat), Sunday, 21 May 2023 18:43 (eleven months ago) link


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