Alex Jones

yeah it reminds me of my brother, who watches Rogan & Alex Jones (he admits Jones is a clown, but that "he turns out to be right a lot", with no further elaboration on what, exactly, he was ever right about)

it's one thing to try to convince others of this bullshit, who can use actual facts to refute them, where everyone gets frustrated and insists the other guy is wrong. what I don't get is how these people convince themselves. they're always wrong about everything. half the shit they say is utterly insane and all the "just you wait" shit never comes to fruition. and yet they never seem to do any self-reflection, cuz you can always convince yourself you were right all along somehow.

solomon also notes* there are three more defamation cases to come! and that's before the aggravated perjury charge (not yet paid) even lands!

*noted yesterday actually i think

Alex Jones' lawyers were just now arguing for a mistrial because they accidentally sent the Sandy Hook family lawyers the entire contents of Jones' phone.

Judge denies the motion.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) August 4, 2022

xpost Yes apparently three other ones to come, one more in Texas and then others in Florida and Connecticut. Jones blew them all off and now he gets to deal with the results.

Sorry just saw a tweet above reporting it

I can think of like 20 separate @dril tweets that would apply to this trial right now

Chances are good that "he turns out to be right a lot" just means "he accurately reflects how I perceive the world around me", which also means "I am hopelessly incapable of self-reflection".

perjury charge (not yet paid) s/b perjury charge (not yet laid), confusion fans

number three. i will never take the advice of my lawyers, my loved-ones, and colleagues to #StopThePosts

— wint (@dril) September 11, 2013

Meanwhile over in Jones' head

Jones said he started making phone calls to his wealthy acquaintances today asking for money. Says the "orders have come down from on high" to shut him down so he can't report on fraud in the upcoming midterms. He's called this new fundraiser "Operation David." Ok man.

— Anna Merlan (@annamerlan) August 4, 2022

wasn't that asshole mysteriously gifted millions in Bitcoin at some point?

It's worth $899 now though

The notion that Sandy Hook was a hoax is a word-painting, a way of conveying Jones’ bottomless rage at politics and media and modernity, and he can no more defend it factually than Magritte could defend the logical necessity of a particular brushstroke.

This is a comically stupid take from someone I thought to be otherwise pretty intelligent. It's a trivial matter to take the statements Jones makes about Sandy Hook and "defend them factually". The defense fails not because he's T.S. Eliot or William Carlos Williams, it fails because he is making transparently and obviously untrue statements. Yeah, prose and poetry can be like surrealism or jazz is some ways. But in other ways, words are not at all like surrealism or jazz, in that they make testable assertions about reality. Jones lied, he knew he was lying, and bottomless rage (and huge profits) making you speak carelessly isn't a defense.

This is a comically stupid take from someone I thought to be otherwise pretty intelligent.

Agreed. Like Wile E. Coyote, he takes an idea that appears to have some minimal amount of plausibility and then uses it to rocket himself straight over a cliff into a void of absurdity.

telling magritte his lawyers just uploaded ceci into my dropbox and asking him if he knows what perjury is

that passage is, to my reading, describing how unmoored from reality Jones' statements are, and that as a consequence Jones himself is not only unequipped to defend them factually, but unable to conceive of doing so. it's saying his words are not only prima facie indefensible in court, but that Jones is constitutionally incapable of mounting a defense. it's not supporting the notion of his words as art, it's saying the height of Jones' fuckedness is courtesy of his own petard.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I agree with sick’s reading; it was a very elegant way of calling Jones a colossal dumb fuckstick

Describing why someone is a human diaper doesn’t make being a human diaper okay

the art stuff is very extremely dumb though, and doesn't make that point at all

(the point it makes is that popehat shouldn't talk abt art or music)

Yeah, he was tiptoeing around pointing out that Alex Jones is insane.

People who are insane can lie and do wrong, of course, but Jones seems incapable of stopping himself from self-sabotaging behavior in the presence of sane people.

the art stuff is very extremely dumb though, and doesn't make that point at all

(the point it makes is that popehat shouldn't talk abt art or music)

― mark s, Thursday, August 4, 2022 8:40 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i agree with the writer's overall point, but the art comparisons are fundamentally a mistake not least because intelligent visual language use in the art of, say, magritte, is high. also popular demagoguery and art come from very different places i think.

(yeah, citing any specific artist would prob have weakened his point, but going for Magritte over eg Pollock does especially obscure it)

for a couple weeks in elementary school, everyone was playing rock paper scissors. there would be tournaments going on at recess, every recess. it was the height of competitive rock paper scissors in my life, and i think in the lives of most of us kids in that schoolyard. but then bart simpson came. rock beats scissors. scissors beats paper. paper beats rock. bart simpson beats rock, paper, and scissors. bart simpson began to be deployed as an option, leading to contested tourney results. first it was rare, then it became expected for it to happen in any game. but still there was a level of sportsmanship, in that you wouldn't do it more than once during a single day, because it was so clearly unfair. but then bulldozer was invented. bulldozer beats bart simpson. but arguably, bart simpson also beat bulldozer. that's when things really spiraled out of control, and the game had changed. i can still remember a kid from the earlier days, beating scissors with his rock. he raised up his clenched fist as high as he could, then brought it pulverizing down to the ground, then of course the fake explosion noise. classic victory. then just a few weeks later, BART SIMPSON! BULLDOZER! BART SIMPSON! BULLDOZER!

Lmao, what about dynamite tho

*good bad and the ugly whistling as the dynamite is lit*

damn, that could be a fun option! dynamite blows up everything, BUT you have to light the fuse at least a turn before it explodes, AND there have to be three ties in a row in order to trigger it

....your honor, is why i believe that i am telling the truth about bart simpson doing 9/11 with dynamite, all evidence covered up by the bulldozer, your honor, is what i heard and i don't do all the shows, either, i don't know what ads i show, and i don't know what my guests know, and everyone else does it

Per Solomon, verdict is in

oh shit, cut the baby in half?

rip alex jones

Last Jedi style

tiptoeing around pointing out that Alex Jones is insane.

except Alex Jones isn't clinically insane at all. he's badly warped and not too bright, but that's not insanity. for decades he was richly rewarded for spewing a constant stream of fabrications and fabulations. to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. it must have felt like he'd acquired a magical superpower that never failed. now it's failing him and he can't understand why.

^^^^

$5.11 million by my math. Jones said yesterday during questioning that anything over $2 million would destroy him, although this is obviously a lot less than $150 million

— dan solomon (@dansolomon) August 4, 2022

I know there's more coming, but that figure feels a lot lower than it should be... all things considered.

let the destruction commence forthwith!

Even if he only has $2 million (I call BS), would be able to file for Chapter 11 before he has to pay that out?

Dude should be wearing a barrel selling pencils before they approve any bankruptcy filing

Asked Bankston how the punitive cap works- he said it’s a “reasonable multiple,” no higher than the 10. Could be as high as about $40m

— dan solomon (@dansolomon) August 4, 2022

Maybe Alex jones' accountent will paypal the full $150 million by mistake.

Jones said yesterday during questioning

ftr every word that comes out of Alex Jones's mouth is a lie including 'and' and 'the'.

xp - and then fail to respond when someone asks if he wants to reclaim the overpayment

rather than try to summarize what he said, here’s video of Bankston explaining the cap on punitive damages pic.twitter.com/CSrYPEL0Un

— dan solomon (@dansolomon) August 4, 2022

In addition to sharing Alex Jones' phone with J6C, the Bankston said he's going to share it with the CT plaintiffs, which is where it came from in the first place. So Jones' NEXT trial may be far more taxing (he) than Texas.

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 4, 2022

Luke Wilson can play Jones' attorney, Jesse Plemons can play the prosecutor.

So here's a fun bonus: the phone story also mentioned medical records that shouldn't have been shipped over, yes? Well guess what. (This is Jones's Connecticut lawyer being yelled at -- and note the followup tweet detailed how his Texas one is getting in the neck too.)

I knew refreshing this docket all day would pay off. https://t.co/iDdBKSHyRd pic.twitter.com/XdKXRoftXX

— Kate 🐌🐳🖋📬 (@Equivo_Kate) August 4, 2022

This order is coming from the judge in said Connecticut case. That is...not good for them.

Also:

Writing up the details on this but the lawyer that Owen Shroyer and Joe Biggs currently share in their Jan6 defense is the one who caused the Alex Jones fuckup.

A big one. https://t.co/QjCJzsAYzr

— emptywheel (@emptywheel) August 4, 2022

LAWYER: “You’ve been broadcasting a picture of our judge on fire, correct?”

ALEX JONES: “No.”

*Shows pic of him broadcasting judge on fire* 🤦🏻‍♂️ pic.twitter.com/tIwKuwT4cN

— The Tennessee Holler (@TheTNHoller) August 4, 2022

lol

I will be so happy when someone sues his ass for every penny he has and wins.

― A is for (Aimless), Monday, June 17, 2019 8:29 PM (three years ago)

Leave me out of this

He didn't say Sandy Hook was a hoax, he said it was a hoagie