Artificial intelligence still has some way to go

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how about a nice game of chess etc etc

Ste, Thursday, 4 August 2022 11:21 (one year ago) link

The Atlantic is using Midjourney art to illustrate articles

https://i.imgur.com/TLsEEXZ.png

Alba, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

:/

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 August 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

That's actually quite interesting, because it's a passable enough illustration. I can imagine content generators using Craiyon not as a novelty, but as a legitimate way to illustrate articles with an endless supply of royalty-free images. It's almost tailor-made for something like The New Yorker, where there are little cartoons all over the place. If I was a professional cartoonist I would be nervous, because this kind of thing can't be un-learned, and it's only going to get better.

If the caption hadn't credited Midjourney the picture would look like a clever modern cultural reference to Midjourney, and then over time it would just be an illustration like any other. It raises the question of whether illustrators are already passing off its work as their own. Or whether the CIA used an early version of the same technology to make Ren and Stimpy, and John Kricfalusi isn't actually real. Or he's a normal man who has been drugged and brainwashed into acting like a nutcase. By the CIA.

For the record, if I feed Craiyon with "Alex Jones inside an American Office under fluorescent lights" I get a little pop-up message that says "So you're saying that South America doesn't exist, is that right? What about Venezuela, is that not America? There's more to America than hot dogs and Donald Trump. Educate yourself! A luta continua" and then it refuses to go any further. Because I wrote "America" instead of "the United States".

It angers me that I have to write "people from the US" and "the US audience" and "internet users in the US" instead of "Americans", "Americans", and "Americans", whereas Charlie Warzel - whose name sounds like a child gargling - can write "American" and no-one cares. He gets a free pass because he's one of us. It angers me.

Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

Our AI technology can now clone anyone into a 'Digital Human' avatar.

And... we can now clone voices too. Even difficult ones, like @StephenFry.

Give it a go, and talk to him here: https://t.co/5Jf64mCrE3#digitalhuman #virtualbeings #interactiveavatar pic.twitter.com/fZ0aqvTAY1

— trulience 🤖 (@trulience) August 23, 2022

Alba, Tuesday, 23 August 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

that kind of sucks? he sounds very computery and looks like he's in a PS4 game

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 August 2022 06:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah, was bringing the thread back on topic ha ha

Alba, Friday, 26 August 2022 06:54 (one year ago) link

mission accomplished then.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 26 August 2022 07:22 (one year ago) link

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2022/08/ai-wins-state-fair-art-contest-annoys-humans/

A synthetic media artist named Jason Allen entered AI-generated artwork into the Colorado State Fair fine arts competition and announced last week that he won first place in the Digital Arts/Digitally Manipulated Photography category, Vice reported Wednesday based on a viral tweet.

Allen used Midjourney—a commercial image synthesis model available through a Discord server—to create a series of three images. He then upscaled them, printed them on canvas, and submitted them to the competition in early August. To his delight, one of the images (titled Théåtre D'opéra Spatial) captured the top prize, and he posted about his victory on the Midjourney Discord server on Friday.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

There are several factors at work there to make that unsurprising. All the entries were digitally manipulated, so an AI-manipulated digital image would be judged only against its peers within the narrow category of art in which AI specializes, not against the whole spectrum of human-produced art. Next, the self-selected pool of talent entering a piece in a Colorado state fair art contest is going to be severely limited and isn't likely to represent the highest or best examples of human-generated images. Next, the best AI programs can draw on millions upon millions of human-generated images and produce its images almost instantly and in as many iterations as desired.

But maybe the most important factor is that the AI program did not select its own entry to the fair. That selection was done by a human, whose criteria for selection would be based on similar criteria to those used by the judges.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link

Next, the self-selected pool of talent entering a piece in a Colorado state fair art contest is going to be severely limited and isn't likely to represent the highest or best examples of human-generated images.

i think you owe the digital artists of Colorado an apology ;)

to your last point though, exactly. at some point, that may become common practice - generate 100+ options, and use the human sense of taste to identify the best 3. that represents a fundamental change in the way that "art" is made. the photograph did not kill how painting or representational art, but nonetheless it changed it

Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:33 (one year ago) link

i'm not trying to make a dogmatic argument about AI killing art or anything like that. art and commerce, ads, marketing, all that shit -- I don't really know anything about it. I'm ignorant. I don't even want to know. what a miserable set of things to think about all the time. but i think it's changing

Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

here's another look at it

Midjourney has become one of the most popular AI art generators largely because it allows anyone to freely create new images on command. Using the prompt “/imagine,” a user can type in whatever they want to see and the AI will return four newly created images in 60 seconds. The user can also ask the AI to improve, or “upscale,” the visual quality with new variations on the same idea.

The start-up, which calls itself “an independent research lab … expanding the imaginative powers of the human species,” operates largely out of a 1-million-follower network on the chat service Discord, with rooms devoted to character creation, environments and “show and tell.”

After paying for a corporate account, Allen started generating thousands of images, changing the text prompts with every creation. He experimented with new settings, scenarios and effects. He asked for images in the styles of Leonardo da Vinci and the American psychedelic artist Alex Grey.

The pieces that really caught his attention, though, were what he now calls his “space opera theater” series. He started with a simple mental image — “a woman in a Victorian frilly dress, wearing a space helmet” — and kept fine-tuning the prompts, “using tests to really make an epic scene, like out of a dream.” He said he spent 80 hours making more than 900 iterations of the art, adding words like “opulent” and “lavish” to fine tune its tone and feel. He declined to share the full series of words he used to create his art, saying it is his artistic product, and that he intends to publish it later. “If there’s one thing you can take ownership of, it’s your prompt,” he said.

“I was like: Dude,” he said. “This is so sick! I want to see more of it! I’m addicted! I’m obsessed!”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/09/02/midjourney-artificial-intelligence-state-fair-colorado/

i'm not trying to judge. i'm just saying, this is similar, in some ways, to how digital photography changed things. suddenly you could take a ton of shots, even just film in HD and select stills. it didn't destroy the old way of doing things. but it supplanted it, and it changed things in a fundamental way

Karl Malone, Saturday, 3 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

tweets posted on ilx are not endorsements

are you mad about AI art? or are you mad your aesthetic is keyword-core enough that it’s reproducible by some of the earliest models

— kara âśż (@karakittel) September 13, 2022

Karl Malone, Thursday, 15 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

During the creation of the Obi-Wan Kenobi TV series, James Earl Jones signed off on allowing Disney to replicate his vocal performance as Darth Vader in future projects using an AI voice-modeling tool called Respeecher, according to a Vanity Fair report published Friday.

Jones, who is 91, has voiced the iconic Star Wars villain for 45 years, starting with Star Wars: Episode IV—A New Hope in 1977 and concluding with a brief line of dialog in 2019's The Rise of Skywalker. "He had mentioned he was looking into winding down this particular character,” said Matthew Wood, a supervising sound editor at Lucasfilm, during an interview with Vanity Fair. “So how do we move forward?”

The answer was Respeecher, a voice cloning product from a company in Ukraine that uses deep learning to model and replicate human voices in a way that is nearly indistinguishable from the real thing. Previously, Lucasfilm had used Respeecher to clone Mark Hamill's voice for The Mandalorian, and the company thought the same technology would be ideal for a major appearance of Darth Vader that would require dozens of lines of dialog. Working from archival recordings of Jones, Respeecher created a voice model that could be "performed" vocally by another actor using the company's speech-to-speech technology.

now all they have to do is have an AI generate the script and also animate the scenes. but surely that will be many 100s of years in the future, rather than a shitty thing that everyone has gotten used to in 15

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link

i have been reading gene youngblood's Expanded Cinema (1970) recently. anyone else read it?

amazing to hear the utopian version of a lot of stuff that is happening now, and then to witness how all of the cool shit got forgotten a long time ago and it's just moved into how to make money by having techbros simulate what a creative person would do

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/3ZVjXa9.jpg

*obnoxiously loud and gravely snorting noises*

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

imagine if you could convince billions of people to voluntarily upload thousands of different "audio-visual records of their own existence"...and then, use all that to train an AI who will recreate what humans are like, continually training machines on recursive edits of the original dataset, so that a certain "kind" of human experience starts to take precedence over all the other ones, and then feeding those recursive ideas of what a human experience is BACK to the original humans who recorded their own existences, to influence them toward the existences that have been selected (which just so happen to be the ones that promote the idea of spending of our lives working so that we can buy the products that the selected existences seem to prefer)

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link

we got the Brave New World outcome, only our Soma fucking sucks

Karl Malone, Monday, 26 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

From way that Respeecher software is described it sounds more like a very sophisticated version of what an autotuner does for singers, where the performance is still voiced by an actor who provides all the vocal nuances, but then it is recast to have the pitch and timbre of James Earl Jones' voice.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

How many thousands of hours of James Earl Jones' speaking voice are available? Digitize that audio, feed it into the machine, fine-tune the results and boom, you've got a Robo-Jones you can deploy for basically any purpose. You could probably run multiple models so you'd have a simulated 25-year-old JEJ, a simulated 65-year-old JEJ, and everything in between, just based on using only samples from a given year as your source material.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 26 September 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

you'd think they could do that with henson and kermit, but hubris

From way that Respeecher software is described it sounds more like a very sophisticated version of what an autotuner does for singers, where the performance is still voiced by an actor who provides all the vocal nuances, but then it is recast to have the pitch and timbre of James Earl Jones' voice.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, September 26, 2022 12:28 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

feel like in the mid-10s a lot of musicians were trying this sort of thing out, particularly male singers who used some software to make themselves sound like a woman. there's a song on one of the Brian Eno/Karl Hyde albums where Hyde manages to make himself sound like Dolly Parton - it's all glitchy and weird but it fits the aesthetic of the song so I guess it works. it does sound like a potential nightmare in copyright law is brewing, seems pretty likely that in 5 years time there will be some plug-in that makes you sound exactly like Elvis and that somebody (probably fucking Bono) will try to use it on a single

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

xpost Brian Henson’s Kermit voice is all wrong, drives me nuts.

sweating like Cathy *aaaack* (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

the intro of brian henson's voice marks my antipathy for the muppets in general; everything prior is cool, everything after is not of interest

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Karl Malone, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

honestly, i think that last answer, detailing how may different places there are with no bodies of any kind, alive or dead, is pretty impressive. i can imagine someone saying something like that, probably in a joking manner, but all the same

Karl Malone, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:14 (one year ago) link

Based on this exchange, I think we can all agree now that Artificial Intelligence has made it! No longer still has some way to go

Mods, please lock thread

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

TITTW Andy the Grasshopper reveals itself to be a bot.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 30 September 2022 00:25 (one year ago) link

this is a serious tweet apparently

They say it's "soulless" pic.twitter.com/hxf90lPqHo

— Suhail (@Suhail) September 29, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 30 September 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

AI art bots have already perfected the female form. pic.twitter.com/LdnueytKnj

— Ptolemy (@pharaoh_ptolemy) September 30, 2022

weird how AI art bots seem to have been trained by anime and creepy fan art.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 30 September 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

Fortunately DALL*E doesn't allow you to draw smut, you can be banned for merely writing a lewd prompt

stank viola (Neanderthal), Friday, 30 September 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

porn dall-e clone will be happening before end of the year

one month passes...

bummer for deviant art people

Heads up, DeviantArt turned heel and as far as i can tell all of your existing deviations will have to be manually opted out of AI data sets.

YOU ARE OPTED IN AT DEFAULT

Extremely scummy move https://t.co/FcX03zvnI3 pic.twitter.com/S5eCAzq9gZ

— ɪʀɪꜱʜ ᴍᴇɴᴀᴄᴇ I Λ Đź | F Λ Y (@IanFayArt) November 11, 2022

the company started a DreamUp AI art generator, text to image, like dall-e etc, and it uses everyone's art on deviant art as training images, unless users opt-out

Karl Malone, Saturday, 12 November 2022 03:49 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

i know people pop up every now and again to say "this is extraordinary" but this is extraordinary

https://goodinternet.substack.com/p/if-jodorowsky-directed-tron

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 November 2022 12:52 (one year ago) link

just mind-blowing, 'how is this possible' stuff. perhaps all the more extraordinary for the fact that it's not ai as traditionally considered, i.e. sentient, but pure dumb number crunching.

ledge, Sunday, 27 November 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

yes exactly, there’s zero “thought” going into any of it

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 November 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

This comment does not mince words:

Galactica is little more than statistical nonsense at scale.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 27 November 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

I’m not sure it has that far to go any more

Film this now pic.twitter.com/vmDScrbkKW

— Rob Manuel 🧻 (@robmanuel) November 29, 2022

Alba, Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link

I initially thought the joke there was that it was a real bit of the script from Friends.

brain (krakow), Thursday, 1 December 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link

if this is not fake
https://maximumeffort.substack.com/p/i-taught-chatgpt-to-invent-a-language
way to go AI

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

that is amazing but I just failed to get it to play a simple game of fizz buzz (it wanted to lead the game despite my instructions) and now I'm getting a 'too many requests' error.

ledge, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

Me:  Let's play a game. I'll say a number.if it's divisible by three you say "fizz", if it's divisible by five you say "buzz", otherwise just say the number. OK?

Gpt: Sure, let's play! I'll start with a number and you can tell me if it's divisible by three, five, or neither.

Me: No, I'm the one who says the number and you are the one who says fizz or buzz. Do you understand?

Gpt: Ah, I see. Yes, I understand now. In that case, let's begin. I'll say a number and you can tell me if it's divisible by three, five, or neither. Here's the first number: 7.

Since 7 is not divisible by 3 or 5, you would simply say the number, in this case "7".


Me: Oh my god what is wrong with you. I am leading the game, not you. I say the number. Do you get it?

Gpt: I apologize if I misunderstood the rules of the game. Yes, I understand now that you are the one who says the number and I have to say "fizz" if it's divisible by three, "buzz" if it's divisible by five, or the number if it's not divisible by either. Let's start again, and I'll do my best to follow the rules correctly this time. Please go ahead and say the first number.

Me: Thank you. Ok, here we go. 1.

Gpt: Since 1 is not divisible by either 3 or 5, you would simply say the number, in this case "1". Let's continue with the next number.

ledge, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

this is getting hammered so hard it it almost useless now

https://chat.openai.com/chat

It often provides misinformation too -
I asked it about the Internet of Value :

"The Internet of Vehicles (IoV) is the concept of connecting vehicles to the internet and to each other, allowing them to share data and information. This can include sharing information about traffic conditions, road closures, and other relevant data to improve safety and efficiency on the roads."

| (Latham Green), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

i feel very overwhelmed by AI, how quickly this is happening. i keep thinking of how photography changed art, and how long it took for people, artists, to understand how and why it was changed forever.

is there a way to have a conversation about these kinds of things without immediately veering into "AI is overhyped and will never exist in a way that meaningfully changes our lives"? it can be frustrating to hear that something that is already happening and developing rapidly is not worth thinking about.

the quality of AI-generated creative output is a subjective opinion. i will say, though, that some of the GPT-3 chat output is easily more entertaining than, say, Saturday Night Live. granted, that's a very low bar. but without exaggeration, i think it would be very easy to generate scripts for an entire episode of SNL that would not just be comparable in quality but would absolutely obliterate the human version. along the same lines, yesterday i saw the published illustration for an article on crypto (a bitcoin in a melting block of ice) and decided to use outdated, free image AI from last year to generate other illustrations of bitcoins in a melting block of ice. the differences between the two methods (paying a stock image company for anonymized human-created illustration vs generating dozens of options for myself, for free) were negligible.l

i use my own subjective experiences there to help support a more speculative thought, which is that i think the image and text generators are already approaching "good enough" for many people. if it hasn't already crossed that milestone, it will soon. it has improved immensely over the past few years, and now it's accelerating. the AI generators of last year are already obsolete. i don't know shit about AI but i know that GPT-3 isn't going to last long because it will be replaced by a better version, or a different AI project that is coming soon, which will also be soon be out of date.

i should stop myself short. i often feel very alienated on this subject. is anyone else seeing all of this? what about non-creative applications of AI? do you sense that it could ever affect your job, your passions, your life in some way? anecdotally, in the last 2 months, i've had 3 different friends tell me about how much AI is becoming an issue at their jobs. however, all three are programmer/developer people so who knows. perhaps, for most people, the most lifechanging aspect of AI so far is that when they put the food item on the self-checkout scanner/weigh machine, the computer can make an accurate guess at what kind of fruit or vegetable it is without you having to type it out.

ok don't fucking hate me or bring me down, thanks! *ducks*

Karl Malone, Monday, 19 December 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

it could certainly reduce the need for people in "knowledge professions"

| (Latham Green), Monday, 19 December 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

i'm hoping i have at least another two decades or so before they figure i'm more valuable as mulch, hopefully will have saved up enough for proper gear in the arena


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