The Best Of The 50 Worst Rock-n-Roll Albums Of All Time

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I actually liked Cut the Crap, it was different, and I always thought it was underrated compared to the first Big Audio Dynamite album that came out at the same time. “Yes I am… a dictator!” goes thru my head more often than anything from the BAD album.

Josefa, Monday, 1 August 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I hardly remember BAD at all. Really liked Julien Temple's Strummer doc, btw.

dow, Monday, 1 August 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link

Almost exactly a year ago (8/3/21) I said this on Twitter:

CUT THE CRAP is as good as any other Clash album, and better than some. Their whole discography is a goddamn mess, and as a strip-it-to-the-bone, fuck-the-pop-charts record, it more than does the job. The guitar sound is ugly as shit, but in a really interesting way, and when you combine that with the Big Black-ish drum machine, the random stabs of ultra-80s synth, and the gang vocals, Strummer was actually really onto something. People who don't like CUT THE CRAP are too attached to the mythology of four dudes in a room makin' rock 'n' roll. Listen to it side by side with the first Big Audio Dynamite album, and wise the fuck up.

I love the first BAD album, btw, and like the second and third quite a bit too. I have no use for anything after that, though.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 1 August 2022 01:18 (one year ago) link

Is Jones the only or dominant vocalist in BAD? Don't know if I could get into that.

dow, Monday, 1 August 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link

Well done unperson, I agree with all that

Josefa, Monday, 1 August 2022 01:33 (one year ago) link

That self-titled Byrds album is pretty good. The Gene Clark songs are particularly nice. I suspect "No Other" was not quite the cult record it is now and these authors would have called it crappy and overblown back in '91.

InternationalWaters, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:39 (one year ago) link

I love This Is Big Audio Dynamite and I love Cut the Crap. Together they really form a blueprint for the collision-y 'Clash meets Public Enemy halfway' bands to follow in ensuing years.

CTC is also a lot of fun if thought of as the 'pop' As the Veneer of Democracy Starts to Fade.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:44 (one year ago) link

I've written about Cut the Crap before but only in eight paragraphs. I'm gonna develop it into a proper review sometime soon I reckon

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Yes to Big Audio Dynamite -- also the second one, with many lyrics co-written with Joe. I had a bootleg of an early Joe Strummer + Latino Rockabilly War album where they covered a few of the songs and dedicated them "to the boys in Big Odio Dynmaite"

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Monday, 1 August 2022 13:49 (one year ago) link

I do think Megatop Phoenix is their best, though.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

I gotta give that one another spin. I remember the first track being great.

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Monday, 1 August 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

The album template feels strangely prescient of Foxbase Alpha to me bcuz mix of house-informed modern London songs interconnected with found-sound-ish collages.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Will check it out with that in mind. I always thought late Clash responded to hip hop in a super interesting way. Not only Magnificent 7/Radio Clash, but all the drum machiney stuff on the Combat Rock b-sides. Mick with the synth drums at Bonds Casino, etc. Love all of that.

three of the doctor's valuable bats are now dead (broom air), Monday, 1 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

I've just been listening to Goodbye Cruel World, and I have a tough time imagining either a Costello hater or a disenchanted Costello lover calling it among the worst of all time. It's mostly weak songs mostly poorly produced, but just a couple of notches below Punch the Clock.
Cut the Crap is a collage of the worst bits of punk and Frankie Goes to Hollywood, which doesn't preclude a couple of good songs from being included.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link

Goodbye Cruel World is pretty good. He has worse albums to come, albeit the other side of this book.

Can we poll the worst 'worst album' lists? Q's mid-00s version is particularly witless.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:52 (one year ago) link

I actually with Guterman's argument that Goodbye Cruel World is a pretty good batch of songs that's simply arranged and produced either poorly or haphazardly. I think "Love Field" manages to work pretty well, but even the live solo performances from 1984 are better. Wish I could link to it, but it's the one that's just Elvis on an electric piano.

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

*actually agree

I feel like Costello's made worse albums since, but GCW is the one most fans can agree one. Like you still have fans championing Mighty Like a Rose and The Juliet Letters.

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

argh, *agree on

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

Like you still have fans championing Mighty Like a Rose and The Juliet Letters

Hell yeah you do

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link

I just listened to Cut the Crap for the first time ever, thanks thread! It's nowhere near as bad as I'd been led to believe. I'll even give it a few more spins soon. It's maybe missing some hookier songwriting - perhaps those will sink in later - and the production is kind of a kitchen sink mess, a la Sandinista, but as unperson said in a really interesting way.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 1 August 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

Rhodes had no idea what he was doing but that's why it works and why the hyperpop etc kids love it :)

Like "Dictator" is always pinned up for being the atonal headrush that it is but what about "We are the Clash" with its unrelated solos for guitar, synths and bongos all happening at the same time, or "Are You Red...Y" where the main synth bit arrives deliciously a whole bar too late?

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 1 August 2022 16:41 (one year ago) link

FWIW, Xgau gave Cut the Crap a B+. He also gave Goodbye Cruel World a B+. Just to confirm, he does indeed consider a B+ to be a good grade.

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

wild to see those Yes, ELP, Jethro Tull, & Moody Blues albums on there - like sure I get why people don't like 'em but this was published in 1991 and all 4 groups had made way worse music since

frogbs, Monday, 1 August 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

I think the intro stated that they made the effort to include more high profile releases - like albums that are the most disappointing in terms of expectations or possibly more deserving of worse reputations.

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link

i found the concept and the execution of the 50 worst book annoying and silly and then i read the essay by his widow and was moved and actually quite upset -- a little bcz i was born two years before him so that's too young to go but also just anyway

mark s, Monday, 1 August 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

Greil Marcus published a harsh critique of that book in his column, and I'm sure Guterman saw that. Somewhere on Guterman's old website, he sounds regretful when he mentions that his "best records" book sold much less than the "worst records" book - he already made it clear that he wrote the "best records" book in response to the other one after having second thoughts. It's still probably the book he's best known for, and it's almost certain he wasn't very happy about that.

Anyway, it is very sad what happened. It's very chilling too - it may have been a lot of things happening at once, but I feel the same situation could happen to almost any ordinary person, and it just makes life seem that much more vulnerable. It doesn't have to be a single catastrophic event, life can just progress in a bad way and it may be too much for most people to handle.

birdistheword, Monday, 1 August 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Yes---her memory piece is sad, but not depressing for me, though I def know where she's coming from, but every lucid, measured, observant, disclosed word seems essential, if there is such a thing: beautiful, anyway. Plainly poetic.

dow, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

I haven't looked at it in years, but his Sex Pistols book w/Noel Monk was formative for me.


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