Beyoncé - Renaissance

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god there's so much going on in "Alien Superstar". The chorus!!!! Crazy song

monotony, Friday, 29 July 2022 02:14 (one year ago) link

I have not heard this yet, but I cannot really fathom thinking Lemonade is a better album than the self-titled (or indeed b’day or 4).

why not? The self-titled drags; Lemonade rarely does (I like the eponymous album).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:27 (one year ago) link

Also, Drake isn’t on Lemonade

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

well, yeah

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link

lemonade is shorter but half the songs sound like music for car commercials and movie trailers, so i guess it’s a matter of perspective

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 02:50 (one year ago) link

Most pop music since 2008 does imo

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

Not criticism btw

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link

i disagree on both counts

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 03:03 (one year ago) link

giving right said fred a credit on "alien superstar" for the start of the chorus is so ridiculous lmao

ufo, Friday, 29 July 2022 05:46 (one year ago) link

covidiots gotta get paid

HIPPO violation (morrisp), Friday, 29 July 2022 05:54 (one year ago) link

Listening to this for the 3rd time and I like it a lot so far.
There's a light summer party vibe and it's pretty easy to play in loop.
Still working on individual tracks but I'm sure there's at least half of the album that is quite strong.

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link

I also like that that there's no dodgy collab

AlXTC from Paris, Friday, 29 July 2022 11:16 (one year ago) link

This album bangs like a motherfucker and I’m only 3 songs in

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 29 July 2022 12:58 (one year ago) link

spoiler: it keeps banging until the end.

#RenaisSLAMS!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

And the one with "America" in the title is not what I expected.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

giving right said fred a credit on "alien superstar" for the start of the chorus is so ridiculous lmao

it was inevitable really - as soon as I heard it I checked the credits, and yup.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

Digging into the credits is pretty interesting: Kelman Duran, The-Dream, Honey Dijon, Green Velvet, MikeQ, Neptunes, A.G. Cook, Tems...

MikoMcha, Friday, 29 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

was kinda turned off by "i'm that girl," but every song since has been pretty fantastic (i'm at "church girl" which might be my fav yet), and the "energy"/"break my soul" transition made me tip my cap

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 July 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

ok "heated" is the second dud, such a drake melody that it's distracting

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 July 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

Test driving now (without looking at song titles yet).

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 29 July 2022 15:43 (one year ago) link

After two listens I'm almost ready to say this is her best. Whether it's true or not I get the impression that she's taking herself a bit less seriously here than on the S/T and Lemonade, which is refreshing. Light summer party vibe otm.

"Plastic Off the Sofa" is my fave so far; that chord progression goes straight to my pleasure centers (buttery major 7ths are definitely involved). A Syd co-write too.

J. Sam, Friday, 29 July 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

i really loved "i'm that girl", i'm still on my first listen though

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

ok "heated" is the second dud, such a drake melody that it's distracting

I love “Heated”!

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

Me too! Maybe I'm just basic, but I enjoyed the whole thing, lol

MikoMcha, Friday, 29 July 2022 20:13 (one year ago) link

bass & drums there are so hot, and what happens in the arrangement from 2:30 onwards

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

xp

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

this album is somewhere between solid and excellent I'm not sure yet

Left, Friday, 29 July 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

so many things happen halfway in these tracks, “Thique” another case in point

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

feel like this is a self evidently great album, not even sure what else to say

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

y'all are welcome to heated lol. the second half was a bit more nondescript than the first imo, but still solid. need to listen again.

but the stretch from "cozy" to "move" is reeeeeal good

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

one of my main takeaways is how good "break my soul" sounds in the context of the album compared to being a single. the transition into it is fantastic and it has a streamlined urgency right at the heart of the album that contrasts w/ the rest of the record in a way i find really effective

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

y'all are welcome to heated lol. the second half was a bit more nondescript than the first imo, but still solid. need to listen again.

but the stretch from "cozy" to "move" is reeeeeal good

― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, July 29, 2022 4:38 PM (one minute ago)bookmarkflaglink

i agree that is the killer stretch of the record and the second half is prob less memorable but also the second part of "pure/honey" might be my fav thing on the album outside of "church girl." i would pay good money for her to do a whole album w/ raphael saadiq

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

I listened to this determinedly low stakes affair over lunch and last week's New Yorker article about yachters.

My second impression: I like it: the beats, her comfort over the opulent sampled/interpolated/stolen grooves, especially if I tune out the references to the pleasures of plutocracy.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

"Cozy" is my jam, Solange allusion and all.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

especially if I tune out the references to the pleasures of plutocracy

harder or easier to do this when you're reading a 15,000 word article on mega yachts?

J0rdan S., Friday, 29 July 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

seconding the love for both "church girl" and "cozy." "church girl" is prob gonna wind up one of my favorite songs of the year

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link

pretty sure the album version of "Break My Soul" is a different mix

Murgatroid, Friday, 29 July 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link

"Plastic Off the Sofa" is my fave so far; that chord progression goes straight to my pleasure centers (buttery major 7ths are definitely involved). A Syd co-write too.

― J. Sam, Friday, July 29, 2022 11:48 AM (five hours ago)

Seconded. She gave us "Love Drought" on her last record that totally did this, so glad we get another. Although, I'm hardly an objective source, as I don't think I've ever heard a song with those chord progressions and a propulsive-yet-chill beat that I did not like, whether it was from Steely Dan's "Deacon Blues", Janet Jackson's "Funny How Time Flies", Rush's "High Water", the Japanese House's "Lilo", the middle section of "Close To The Edge", etc. Before a Nilufer Yanya show, the bar played three amazing newish examples of this template that I have to thank Shazam for ID'ing for me (Softcult's "Gloomy Girl", Trace's "Suddenly Emotions Fall”, and Felivand’s "Midsummer Sun"). Are we in a golden age of this genre/style? It appears so!

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Friday, 29 July 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

really great! will probably be one of my fav albums from her easily

dyl, Saturday, 30 July 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

First listen to this I am rather stoned, it is amazing

akm, Saturday, 30 July 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link

Surprised at some of the responses here but all my favs are in the back half. “Cozy”, for a record with Raphael saadiq and Nile rodgers, sounds like it would have been comfortable on the lizzo album. I’m surprised people see it as a highlight

xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 30 July 2022 07:21 (one year ago) link

*I meant “cuff it” above.

xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 30 July 2022 10:00 (one year ago) link

lol poor lizzo. it's like all interest in her on here evaporated as soon as she graduated from 'the kind of pop artist that it would be cool to see succeed' to 'actually kinda-successful pop artist'

dyl, Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:10 (one year ago) link

is her album any good? I should probably give it a listen. dropped off after the first one

Left, Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

"virgo's groove" -> "move" fucking hell yeah

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

lol poor lizzo. it's like all interest in her on here evaporated as soon as she graduated from 'the kind of pop artist that it would be cool to see succeed' to 'actually kinda-successful pop artist'

So she's like the musical equivalent of Amy Schumer?

MarkoP, Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

"thique" is incredible

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:39 (one year ago) link

phrase that kept coming to mind during "thique"/"all up in your mind" was "psychedelically-detailed booty bass" which "america has a problem" then fulfilled

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 30 July 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Everything from "cozy" to "thique" is good to great (I consider the first one more like an intro to the album).
The final 4 I'm still working on.
"thique" is such a dirty banger and so many great and exciting musical/vocal moments throughout the album.
This is definitely one of my favorite Beyonce album and I feel like it will become my single favorite shortly...

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 30 July 2022 16:22 (one year ago) link

Surprised at some of the responses here but all my favs are in the back half. “Cozy”, for a record with Raphael saadiq and Nile rodgers, sounds like it would have been comfortable on the lizzo album. I’m surprised people see it as a highlight


see i think beyonce has always had a knack for making this kind of retro type song feel fresh… or at least doing it in a way that feels elevated when compared to ppl like lizzo or bruno mars (who i love) who generally make surface level pop music. you could go all the way back to B’Day, “single ladies,” “love on top,” “schoolin life, “blow” etc. i just listened to “cuff it” & “about damn time” back to back and “cuff it” is far more layered, richer… beyoncé’s vocals are on another level compared to lizzo’s snappy ad copy slogan raps. now lizzo set out to make a mass appeal no 1 pop song and accomplished that so shoutout to her, i think she & beyonce clearly had different goals but if lizzo made songs like “cuff it” her music would be…… way better

J0rdan S., Saturday, 30 July 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link


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