what are jeremy corbyn's flaws?

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did things he knew were bullshit to appease people he had too much faith in and lost his insurgent edge in the process

Left, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:52 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Jeremy Corbyn played a version of 'Doom' that lets you 'kill Thatcher' https://t.co/tJpeQCFP6i

— The Independent (@Independent) September 26, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 10:15 (one year ago) link

The absolute best, always been a top ten Corbyn story

Quality pic.twitter.com/H5AaeQ62xU

— Fisted Away (@fistedaway) September 28, 2022

barry sito (gyac), Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:00 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

An honour to meet Chris Smalls, who led the first Amazon strikes in the U.S.

Thank you for galvanising a collective movement, whose success has inspired so many others to stand up and fight back against corporate greed.

International solidarity is how we win! pic.twitter.com/YOQJkmeyHA

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) February 21, 2023

calzino, Friday, 24 February 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

"I do not intend to stop fighting for real change on your behalf."

Our economy is characterised by poverty, debt and inequality.

People in Islington North are demanding a more hopeful alternative.

I do not intend to stop fighting for real change on your behalf. pic.twitter.com/s6nB3AgRAh

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) March 22, 2023

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 10:58 (one year ago) link

If I went out campaigning as a non-Islington resident millenial leftist foreigner would you guys reckon' that would help or hurt?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:17 (one year ago) link

Help.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:23 (one year ago) link

The only thing stopping people who voted for Corbyn the last time doing so again if he runs as an independent is the idea that you have to vote Labour to keep the Tories out, which is an inane position to hold in Islington North.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:30 (one year ago) link

in Islington North

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 11:32 (one year ago) link

Wondering how much Keir Labour is going to throw away on trying to crowbar some briefcase fool into that seat

limb tins & cum (gyac), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:04 (one year ago) link

I saw an outlier poll where they are only 10 pts ahead yesterday, lol

calzino, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:08 (one year ago) link

Yeah, weird how more competent fascism isn’t an argument against fascist policies.

limb tins & cum (gyac), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:09 (one year ago) link

Not only that but Starmer’s whole way of being is so offputting I expect the polling to tighten to within a few percentage points as contact with the reality of the man fully hits people

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:30 (one year ago) link

he's already polling lower than Sunak on a personal basis, unbelievably classic Labour

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 12:49 (one year ago) link

I saw an outlier poll where they are only 10 pts ahead yesterday, lol

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It's narrowed bcz it isn't the Truss-led shit show and Lab will only have bots to say how Kieth is a top bloke.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link

One poll indicated a Labour majority of 8.

No reason to believe that particular outcome will occur but it is one of those accidental scenarios that would, in theory, favour a faction like the Socialist Campaign Group, if they had the will to enact that as the ERG did (which they won't). They could make demands in exchange for voting through KS's policies, etc.

I don't think it will happen (don't think the SCG are able to stand up in this way) but hypothetically that would be the result of such a scenario. Hypothetically therefore it could be the best feasible electoral outcome.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:02 (one year ago) link

You can even imagine, say, a Labour majority of 2, which would be 50% larger if only they hadn't expelled the successful candidate for Islington North. Would make that act look the more self-destructive (as well as morally wrong).

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:03 (one year ago) link

the SCG have not acquitted themselves well in the post-Corbyn era

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:04 (one year ago) link

Let's see them use a slim majority to push socialist policy just you wait.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link

Tony Blair famously said if he could win from the left he wouldn’t do it. I haven’t seen anything to indicate the current party is different.

limb tins & cum (gyac), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 13:24 (one year ago) link

Re the og question, I feel like the left needs a hard bastard as a leader or figurehead, and sadly Corbs wasn't that. Mick Lynch seems to have worked wonders for the RMT. Ian Lavery squared up to Johnson on live TV. I know this is simplistic but voters seem to prefer someone perceived as pugilistic. Obviously I'm ignoring the media's role in Corbs leadership, and what they would do to such a hypothetical leader (I remember how they demonised and ridiculed Prescott for defending himself).

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:14 (one year ago) link

Yeah I think it's a consensus take now that Corbyn was too soft.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link

He was not a leader in any sense of the word. Which is why he was the best leader.

Amazing how close we got to at least some power.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link

just realised that if Humza wins the SNP vote, all four biggest parties will be led by charisma-free freaks who command absolutely zero respect from anyone. you couldn't say the same about Corbyn, Johnson or Sturgeon.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:49 (one year ago) link

enter Sir Edward Davey

conrad, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:52 (one year ago) link

look, charisma-free freaks is grown-up politics

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

Sounds like an uncool liberal belief, to me

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

prefer someone perceived as pugilistic.

It's directness, straightforwardness, and succinctness that are popular. That doesn't necessarily mean being more pugilistic at all

anvil, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

Starmer has problems in that case.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:38 (one year ago) link

I think that is pretty clear!

anvil, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

It's directness, straightforwardness, and succinctness that are popular. That doesn't necessarily mean being more pugilistic at all

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Personally I thought Corbs was all these things, to a large extent, with the exceptions maybe of Brexit and the EU.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

Agree.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

I wish Corbyn would sue every one of these fuckers who's called him an antisemite. he could fund a new party with that money.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:45 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

I'm always glad to see JC happy.

Thank you to the people of Belfast for a truly inspirational visit.

I was honoured to speak at #Feile35 and pay tribute to the Irish community back in my constituency.

Above all, I was buoyed by the hope of young people campaigning for freedom, peace and unity. pic.twitter.com/07TgLm00n1

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) August 4, 2023

the pinefox, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:37 (nine months ago) link

he does an innocuous Hiroshima day post and predictably 99% of the replies are from really nasty and thick friends and apologists of the mass humanity exterminating division of the US military complex. He's already politically finished and had whip removed ffs

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Sunday, 6 August 2023 23:38 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

JC marks 50 years since the coup in Chile.

50 years ago, a US-backed military coup overthrew the Allende government in Chile.

Chileans never gave up — after 17 years of repression, democracy was restored.

As Pablo Neruda said, “You can cut all the flowers but you can’t stop Spring from coming.” pic.twitter.com/BhYQOXyA4r

— Jeremy Corbyn (@jeremycorbyn) September 11, 2023

the pinefox, Monday, 11 September 2023 10:45 (seven months ago) link

I've just been reading an oral history of Rough Trade where Piers Corbyn is twice referred to as 'The King of the Squats'.

Ward Fowler, Monday, 11 September 2023 10:46 (seven months ago) link


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