FELT (Go Kart Mozart, Denim)... Lawrence is amazing!

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I feel a bit weird about hearing the "you can't use the toilet" thing so much - if its a genuine thing (that Lawrence would find it actually distressing) and I've no reason to believe it isn't, then it feels weird to write about it (unless in a really compassionate way). And if its anything else, it just feels a bit ... repeated.

djh, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

Was he always a bit camera shy, or is it "getting old sucks and I don't want to show too much"?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

i'd like to know what's up with Maurice Deebank?

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:35 (one year ago) link

He did this interview a few years ago - https://www.outsideleft.com/main.php?updateID=1528

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

I finally watched ‘Lawrence of Belgravia’ the other night, thanks BFI Player! Was interesting if a little depressing. I think I already knew everything it contained from various interviews and articles around it.
One thing that struck me was that, yes, Lawrence has not achieved the level of fame and fortune he desired, but does he recognise that, at least with Felt, he’s got a greater artistic legacy than a vast percentage of the people who ever play music?
I’m sure he talks about the Go Kart Mozart material he’s working on at the time of the film being very pop, but it’s a refracted version of the pop of his youth, not the pop that will get him where he wants to be. But I guess it’s the gap between ambition/delusion and reality that’s meant to be captivating?

hamicle, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

Xp I’ve already read that one! I’m curious what he has been up to since.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

I think leading a quiet life outside of the business, and you can't blame him.

If I were interviewing Lawrence I'd ask about how he reclaims sounds which are considered tacky and cheap and foregrounds them to expose their hidden qualities and make us think about how / why we ever decided they were bad in the first place, that seems to have been his practice for the best part of 30 years, but nobody asks him about it and he doesn't seem to want to talk about it either. Maybe it just isn't interesting to anyone.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

I feel a bit weird about hearing the "you can't use the toilet" thing so much - if its a genuine thing

It is, by the way.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link

I just love MD's guitar playing so much that I want to know if he is making music or not and if not why not

No idea what y'all are talking about wrt toilets, do not care tbh

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 23:05 (one year ago) link

The thing is, for 40 years visitors to his flat have been given The Toilet Chat

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 23:47 (one year ago) link

I still need to watch Lawrence of Arabia and wonder what else people watch on BFI Player.

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

i feel as if i have read a version of this article every few years for the last two decades. as a Lawrence agnostic it's still always interesting to read but i do wish they would get over the 'should have been / could have been famous' schtick, every single time.

― stirmonster

Yeah, this is the same theme for every interview I've read of his for the last 20 years now. There's no doubt he's some bad luck in the industry, but some of it has to be his own doing too. I remember him being on Mark Riley's show in 2012 and he was complaining about how he couldn't play live because nobody wanted to book him. As the interview went on, Mark mentioned how a number of people had called in from music venues saying they'd love to have him and to get in touch. He just kinda brushed it off and nothing came of it. The guy who made the documentary also says how he used to disappear all the time and he must be like that too when planning his career.

I'm not sure how much more mileage he can get from the Summer Smash/Diana story too. I seem to remember seeing an advert at the time for Summer Smash in the NME or Melody Maker that said it was coming out August 24th, a week before Diana died. I'm sure I cut it out and put it on my wall (along with all my Mansun and Boo Radleys pics). Maybe it got put back last minute as singles did at that time. As great as the song is, I'm not convinced it was going to be the breakthrough hit he was expecting. I don't remember hearing it on radio at all and I was desperate to hear it. I heard It Fell Off The Back Of A Lorry a number of times the previous year.

kitchen person, Thursday, 28 July 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

As I mentioned up thread, jeez, more than a decade ago, if Summer Smash had actually been released it would have been his worst single.

everything, Thursday, 28 July 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

I was a teenage Felt fan in the 80s, and even then I found him an awkward sod. Every new release or gig was a costly gamble. And the thing that always made me doubt the toilet story is that it was commonly told about Kenneth Williams bitd.

fetter, Thursday, 28 July 2022 08:34 (one year ago) link

There could be various reasons for the toilet obsession. My guess is that 50% of it is that he is embarrassed about the state of his bathroom (because he can’t afford a refurb and the council/landlord won’t do it ) and 50% hates people using his toilet.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

Well, that make two people who etc.

Mark G, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:04 (one year ago) link

Check your bathroom privilege ! Before my bathroom refurb last autumn (probably 15% more expensive now at least) , I dreaded visitors saying “can I just use the bathroom”.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link

Also, 3 people at least … I remember an Andy Warhol story about how Gala Dali (Dali’s wife) refused to let him use their toilet in their New York hotel suite when he was visiting.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:05 (one year ago) link

Arabia
Belgravia obv

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 10:37 (one year ago) link

why take interviewers back to your home at all if it's such an issue?

fetter, Thursday, 28 July 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

It’s difficult to bullshit the journalist in a coffee shop! Some eavesdropping ilm reader might say “you really to drop this ‘could have been famous’ line - and Summer Smash wasn’t ever going to be the hit you thought it’d be…and a few live appearances would be good - you lazy so and so”.

Luna Schlosser, Thursday, 28 July 2022 12:30 (one year ago) link

He is playing in Glasgow a week on Saturday tbf.

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 July 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link

I've written pretty much that same profile of Lawrence - as has seemingly everyone who's ever interviewed him - and yeah, the toilet stuff is both very played out but it is the genuine first thing he says to you. And even before then you're warned by the PR that he'll only do the interview in his flat.

He's friendly but not the easiest person to interview, which would maybe so go some way to explaining why the resulting pieces are so similar.

A few years after I was working in the Waitrose by his flat and he was kind enough to pretend to remember having met me as he paid for his can of Coke. I blurted out something about how I'd spent the bulk of lockdown listening to Felt and he seemed genuinely pleased to hear it.

Seeing him in Hebden Bridge next week and have no idea what to expect. Presumably absolutely zero Felt/Denim stuff?

bain4z, Thursday, 28 July 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

Correct.

Kim Kimberly, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Plenty of musicians out there would kill to be as 'successful' as Lawrence is these days

PaulTMA, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

I for one can't wait to see this plaster bust. Seems a bit rum criticising the snaps as he's clearly made an effort: three costume changes! (he's been raiding the famous cellophane archive) and a new baseball cap (thank god...). Intrigued to hear he's a Nick Cave fan. Yeah, it would be nice if articles could take a different angle to the great lost pop eccentric, but mostly just glad he still garners some attention and makes records. And I like the tramp line.

cw, Thursday, 28 July 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link

He knows what it’s like to be disappointed by your idols – “I couldn’t get over it in the 1980s when Lou Reed had a mullet”

Lawrence otm

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

i feel as if i have read a version of this article every few years for the last two decades.

It doesn't help that he tends to announce the title of the next album right after the last album has come out, and then it takes years before it's actually released. So you get multiple articles over several years that are like, "yeah, we're working on the next album now, it's called Mozart's Mini-Mart!"

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 28 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

Things I'd be genuinely interested to learn from a Lawrence interview in 2022: (i) dude wtf do you do all day? and (b) what do you make a month? like srsly, putting aside all the dismantled king shit, where does the money come from?

fetter, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:49 (one year ago) link

God, The Stagnant Pool fucking tears

Mule, Friday, 29 July 2022 22:58 (one year ago) link

x-post

Both questions feel a bit too intrusive though? Not sure I’d like to be asked to justify what I do all day or account for my finances.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 29 July 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link

Lawrence is obviously very mentally ill

PaulTMA, Saturday, 30 July 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

yeah that does cross my mind from time to time, he has the behaviour and mannerisms of a friend of mine who is a diagnosed schizophrenic (and also a musician), however have to remember that it isn't great to do armchair diagnoses, and it's ultimately none of our business

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 July 2022 09:12 (one year ago) link

It is certainly not obvious that he is "very mentally ill".

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 July 2022 09:39 (one year ago) link

Sorry that was worded really badly

PaulTMA, Saturday, 30 July 2022 12:14 (one year ago) link

The Hebden Bridge gig was fun enough. Lawrence remains a not particularly engaging stage presence but he's got a good, young, excitable new band with him and they seemed to be enjoying themselves. Not sure he needed to do "Relative Poverty" twice though.

Finally watched Lawrence of Belgravia last night and thought it was a nice portrait of the man - glad there's no toilet/Summer Smash stuff in there. I'm still not sure if he really believes the "I should have been really, really famous" stuff.

bain4z, Thursday, 11 August 2022 09:01 (one year ago) link

I see Cherry Red has reissued all ten albums on CD with new cover art for a tenner each... assume it's the same mastering job as the 2018 deluxe editions, but do they sound good?

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 22 August 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

"I'm Gonna Wiggle" - tune of the year.

bain4z, Wednesday, 28 June 2023 12:48 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

I see Cherry Red has reissued all ten albums on CD with new cover art for a tenner each... assume it's the same mastering job as the 2018 deluxe editions, but do they sound good?

― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Sunday, August 21, 2022 9:39 PM (eleven months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also curious about this. I have copies of most of these album but they are at this point not in great shape

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:20 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

Felt Share Brand New ‘Primitive Painters’ Video

Lawrence has commissioned Douglas Hart to direct a new video, a powerful meditation on the group – and the coterie who surrounded them – at the time. It draws on Super 8 footage, featuring a plethora of characters from the Felt and Creation Records milieu, including a youthful Alan McGee.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 28 November 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link

Oh wonderful what a treat!

brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2023 16:27 (four months ago) link

young Lawrence was so dreamy

brimstead, Friday, 1 December 2023 16:29 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

lol what is this?

https://www.instagram.com/p/C2ilBjWM7w-/

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:22 (two months ago) link

oh the dash has broken the url, please copy n paste

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:24 (two months ago) link

it's video from this thing btw:

https://www.fitzroviachapel.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/fc_Lawence-in-Fitzrovia-hero.jpg

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 25 January 2024 23:25 (two months ago) link


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