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I heard this powerful instrumental guitar version of "Hello" by Lionel Ritchie on the AM station the other day. Love shit like this, wanted to know who it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-0KRM_eROA

And then the announcer backsold the song by saying "that was 'Still Got the Blues' by Gary Moore." I presume the DJ said that with a straight face.

But there was NO WAY that wasn't "Hello"!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHONNcZbwDY

Preliminary Google search says, yeah, it's definitely a rip-off. There's even a Fark link from 14 years ago saying Moore lost his case against Richie. But I can't find anything solid, especially about settlements and credit.

But with a lead from Wikipedia, I learn that Moore lost a suit brought by a German band from the 70s, Jud's Gallery. And yup, there's that "Hello" melody buried at the end, starting around 10:20 (kicking in about a minute later.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8mOgcUar-8

So now we've got a song that predates "Hello" by 15 years. Was Richie ever called out by Jud's Gallery too? No, but he was sued by Marjorie White, who claims Richie ripped off her song, "I'm Not Ready To Go," which I can't find an example of anywhere.

Richie won that case, by the way.

(And in posts that sound like other posts, Geoff mentioned this in 2006: songs that sound like other songs)

pplains, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

Was thinking this week how R.E.M.'s "Tongue" is a bit like Twentieth Century Zoo's "Quiet Before the Storm" once the latter gets going

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link

Would seem unlikely that this could be described as sounding like anything else but that main recurring melody is lifted straight from Van der Graaf Generator (and George Martin's) "Theme One". Also, who knew people were still playing stuff that sounded like this on the BBC in the 1979?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7plgiMK5wXA

Let's Get Ready to Trimble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link

Following on from pplains's post, I heard today a brand-new song by the Algerian Berber singer Souad Massi that very obviously uses the Lionel Richie "Hello" melody. The song is "Dessine-moi un pays" and the "Hello" bit starts at 00:42.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wcoj3Cjkuc

Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 31 July 2022 10:14 (one year ago) link

Little more veiled than Gary Moore, but that's still it!

pplains, Sunday, 31 July 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

Driving me nuts (aptly enough) trying to think (punk?) song the intro of this reminds me of...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPdiHkRqI-U

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:33 (one year ago) link

... I'm sure it's a punk song but it might be T. Rex?

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link

The intro is the best Wonderwall rip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2p0Igh5EXjk

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

xp it's close to Cheap Trick - Hello There

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKjs4qoSZ0c

llurk, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

I've never heard that song so that's not what I'm thinking of.

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

It’s a little bit like the Sex Pistols cover of Something Else.

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 14:09 (one year ago) link

is it "ca plane pour moi"? different key, but i still get the vibe

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

"New Rose" opens with drums, then a four chord riff, but then it settles in into the hook/riff like that Neil Diamond intro.

Jaqueline Kasabian Oasis (bendy), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

I always thought the "New Rose" riff was the "Raw Power" riff backwards (and sped up)!

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

Is it Suspect Device by Stiff Little Fingers?

kinder, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

I think it might well be! I'm sure there are Los of songs with similar intros but I had on a Neil Diamond compilation and when that song stated up I had to check it was still Neil I was listening to

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

hooray! that's what it reminded me of, then when I went to listen to SLF I thought it was maybe too generic.

kinder, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 15:20 (one year ago) link

“Suspect Device”, now there’s a blast from my past. SLF were my favourite band in the world for a couple of months.

and Jake Burns letting himself be inspired by his parents’ record collection, I love it.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

Didn't Montrose complain that "Suspect Device" sounded too much like "Space Station #5"? It has a similar rhythm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxUgW5CLk18

The AV Club also points out that The Men used a similar riff in "Turn it Around":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7XmQzlxMoE

I have to say that's quite a stylistic evolution from "I Don't Depend on You".

Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 19:31 (one year ago) link

Tom D. it also reminds me of this one by Jeff Lynne
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRsYbb8rWoE

Kim, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:28 (one year ago) link

As a father of a 5 month old kid, I have recently discovered that I’m unable to whistle a verse of ‘Hush Little Baby’ without segueing into the chorus of ‘Mary’s Boy Child’ by Boney M

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

am i alone in thinking that hank williams' "why don't you love me" sounds like it was based on "turkey in the straw"?

budo jeru, Monday, 8 August 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

The opening melodic phrase of the Mexican song "María Elena" is almost exactly the same as the opening melodic phrase of the American standard "Dream a Little Dream of Me." Interesting that the two songs were written in 1932 and 1931 respectively.

Josefa, Tuesday, 9 August 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

The chorus of George Ezra's "Green Green Grass" and the opening lines of Joel Corry & MNEK's "Head & Heart" have the same melody, in the same key.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 10:42 (one year ago) link

Love, Signed DC / Moody Blues, Nights in White Satin
The Beatles, Eleanor Rigby / Love, Robert Montgomery
Tom Jones, It's Not Unusual / Love, Nice to Be
Bob Dylan, Times They Are a-Changin' / Love, Gather Round
The first Love albums full of songs that sound like other songs

Also "Can't Explain" by Love is an obvious rip of "What a Shame" by the Rolling Stones.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 August 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link

I may never forgive myself for voluntarily listening to 15 seconds of that George Ezra song

f.m. corndog (unregistered), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Also, while Love's "Signed D.C." may or may not have inspired "Nights in White Satin", its melody is indebted to "House of the Rising Sun".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:41 (one year ago) link

It's a stretch, but I remember the first time I heard "Frozen Faces" by Propaganda the melody of the second part kept reminding me of "Mad World" by Tears for Fears:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40r6r-pJ3UQ

Specifically the "all around me are familiar faces" bit. They have very little in common otherwise and it's probably coincidence, although the Props - did Propaganda have a Smash Hits nickname? Der Props? - Poppyganda were making demos of A Secret Wish at around the same time "Mad World" came out.

According to Smash Hits, circa March 1984, "Suzanne’s a freelance goldsmith. Claudia’s hard at it doing the German equivalent of A-levels, Ralf works in a bank and Andreas is a DJ, although he’s currently out of work", which raises the question of how you can be an out-of-work DJ. It's like being an unemployed non-stop dancer. I can conclude that Smash Hits didn't have a comedy name for Propaganda. It seems that the magazine barely ever covered them, which is a shame.

Ashley Pomeroy, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:14 (one year ago) link

Whenever I hear Ernest Ranglin's "Surfin'" I start to sing Steve Miller's "Abracadabra"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuyrY--vs3U

...Kinda wonder if Miller at least subconsciously pilfered it.

Jaqueline Kasabian Oasis (bendy), Friday, 19 August 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

the verse groove from the charlatans’ “the only one i know” reminds me a hell of a lot of “hush” by deep purple

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 August 2022 13:47 (one year ago) link

The verse of "Showdown" by ELO owes rather a lot to "I Heard It Through the Grapevine".

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Friday, 26 August 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link

I remember John Lennon saying that on the radio when he was a guest DJ on WNEW-FM.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2022 10:44 (one year ago) link

Greats minds...

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Saturday, 27 August 2022 13:22 (one year ago) link

Sorry, didn't mean to overwhelm your original post.

I’d Rather Gorblimey (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 27 August 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

“Spanish Moon” by Little Feat and Roy Buchanan’s “I’m a Ram”

Heez, Sunday, 28 August 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Never thought about this before but “Little Sister” sounds quite a bit like “Lucille.”

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 September 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

Both were performed at the Concerts for the People of Kampuchea, maybe I noticed it back around that time but forgot.

Jean Arthur Rank (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 September 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

Stereolab - ‘Going Out Of My Way’ is pretty blatantly appropriated from Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers’ ‘Roadrunner’

Agnes, Agatha, Germaine and Jack (Willl), Monday, 12 September 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

michael jackson - rock with you
teddy pendergrass - close the door

budo jeru, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link

Kinks - How are you? & Beck - Puttin' it Down: IV-V alternation using the same sort of easy strum rhythm as basis for almost the entire song. I think Beck's melody tries to imply the V as the root, while the How are You melody implies the IV is the root, but both resolve to the I on the chorus.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

ok so ritchie blackmore def stole the "smoke on the water" riff from astrud gilberto's song "maria quiet" (on an album called look to the rainbow! very clever ritchie)

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 16 September 2022 22:26 (one year ago) link

nabihah iqbal 'zone 1 to 6000'

sounds like

st etienne 'finisterre'

johnny crunch, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:03 (one year ago) link

Costello's New Lace Sleeves has a similar rhythm to John Martyn's Outside In. Classics both.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Lonnie Mack’s “Why” sounds a little bit like “St. James Infirmary.”

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

This is very vague hand waving but “Heroes” is kind of structured like a Roy Orbison song.

Ride On Proserpina (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 29 September 2022 23:28 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ym7Mg4yTZc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wbt59pmT26E
obv both pull from the roberta flack song

Spottie, Friday, 30 September 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

both use the chord progression from “hey joe”!

comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 30 September 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link


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