Siamese Dream is really the only one I can enjoy all the way through.
For me it's Gish, but though consistent, it doesn't have any of their really great songs.If brevity was all that was needed to make a great Pumpkins record, Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun would be their masterpiece, but it's the worst.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 24 July 2022 15:39 (one year ago) link
This bump seems like a good excuse to play one of my favorites from this decade again.
― the future is now, Monday, 25 July 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
The one I can enjoy all the way through is Adore - I've not entirely been able to work out why that is. It goes on an age (mind you so do the two around it) and has a lot of slow stuff which I don't quite think is them (or Billy at least) playing to their strengths but unlike their other 91-00 albums I'm generally unlikely to want to skip anything.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 25 July 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link
I don't think it's odd that Adore is well regarded by many Pumpkins fans. It's my favourite too, it has a serene vibe that they never had reached before or since.
― braised cod, Monday, 25 July 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
I wouldn't identify as a Pumpkins fan, though. An Adore fan and a fan of certain songs from (or whole parts of) other albums, though.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 25 July 2022 20:49 (one year ago) link
A chin-stroking observation (after going back & forth a few times btw. the orig CD and the remaster): "Geek USA" is an even more interesting/complex song than "Silverfuck" - even though I think conventional wisdom would hold the opposite(?)
― HIPPO violation (morrisp), Friday, 29 July 2022 17:04 (one year ago) link
Silverfuck has always been my least favourite SD-track. Too long, and just not a good as most of the other rockers on the album. Shares some weaknesses with Fuck You from MC.
― Mule, Friday, 29 July 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link
Only makes sense as a live “indulgence song” really
― assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link
They played it when I saw them in Oct. ‘91(?), before I had even heard Gish… I didn’t know the song, of course, but I remember Billy singing “I feel no pain…” over the bassline.
― HIPPO violation (morrisp), Friday, 29 July 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link
One thing I’ll add is that when SD first came out, those are the two songs I least enjoyed… “Geek” sounded too tryhard-aggro and hookless to me, and “Silver” too much like, idk, Jane’s Addiction or something.So I think learning to like/appreciate those songs was key, in terms of the whole album clicking with me… no more “second half, time to skip” syndrome.
― HIPPO violation (morrisp), Saturday, 30 July 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
happy 30th (and two days)
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 July 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link
In a dream, we are connected
― Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 29 July 2023 23:47 (eight months ago) link
Pretty cool acoustic set. From the comments, sounds like Pumpkin Heads have long been familiar with this set as a boot, but I never heard it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzwOwzGtiZw
― Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Saturday, 14 October 2023 03:58 (six months ago) link
yeah that rules! it’s amazing how well those droney songs translate to the acoustic setting really. In the late 90s I got that set as part of a cd-r trade on alt.music.smashingpumpkins lol
― brimstead, Saturday, 14 October 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link