PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

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did it not come with a hdmi cable? mine came with one, albeit short

mh, Sunday, 24 July 2022 03:43 (one year ago) link

It did come with one, but it was too short. So I at first just swapped out my PS4 for the PS5, using the same cable, and when that didn't work well I swapped the PS cable with the Switch cable, which also didn't consistently work that well. I bought a "premium" higher capacity HDMI cable for something like $8, one that would reach, so now it's just a matter of seeing if the problem persists. I also changed the resolution from automatic to 1080p (which a few places recommended), and maybe one of the other settings, too. If nothing goes wrong with the new cable I'll change the settings back and see if anything happens then. The PS5 definitely boots in safe mode, so that's a good thing. I assume if it's not the cable it's some sort of handshake headache with the TV, though who knows.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 July 2022 13:37 (one year ago) link

I’ve had to swap out almost all of my hdmi cables in the last couple years as I bought 4k junk, and then had to get yet another when I added a 4k hdr 120Hz device, so…. cable seems likely

mh, Sunday, 24 July 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

Played a bunch of Spider-man today, and so far, so good. No issues, so hopefully it was just the cable.

I'm playing the remastered version for PS5, and so far the graphics and gameplay are only subtly better, but that says more about how good the game looked and played on PS4. The biggest difference is the load times, which are minimal, compared to several seconds on the PS4. Which again wasn't really that bad, but it just makes the game that much zippier.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

I finished the Miles Morales one. Ended up flipping to the performance mode almost instantly. It's definitely a first generation PS5 game in that it's just a little bit better than the PS4. It's Spider-Man, you gotta go fast!

mh, Monday, 25 July 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the new "premium" HDMI cable seems to have done the trick. It's definitely a relief that the most likely problem was also the easiest and cheapest to solve, because if it was an issue with the PS5 or TV it might have been a lot harder to figure out, let alone fix.

Not too many must-have PS5 exclusives yet, but I noticed that Ratchet & Clank and Demon's Souls are both down to $40 already, so that's good. I wonder if they'll drop any lower around Black Friday?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 August 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

The global economic environment is a challenge that many of you around the world are no doubt experiencing. We’re seeing high global inflation rates, as well as adverse currency trends, impacting consumers and creating pressure on many industries. Based on these challenging economic conditions, SIE has made the difficult decision to increase the recommended retail price (RRP) of PlayStation 5 in select markets across Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA), Asia-Pacific (APAC), Latin America (LATAM), as well as Canada. There will be no price increase in the United States.

While this price increase is a necessity given the current global economic environment and its impact on SIE’s business, our top priority continues to be improving the PS5 supply situation so that as many players as possible can experience everything that PS5 offers and what’s still to come.

Thank you for your continued support.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 August 2022 13:24 (one year ago) link

has a company ever increased the price of a system post launch? feels unique.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 25 August 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

I’m not sure about prices outside of the US, but here’s an interesting bit from a while back about the Switch:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/08/will-the-nintendo-switch-ever-see-a-price-drop/

mh, Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:27 (one year ago) link

I don't remember any kind of price increase for a console before, but considering inflation and supply chain issues, we are in pretty unique times, at least in the time since gaming consoles are a thing. I wouldn't be surprised if other companies do the same thing.

Anyway, I'm glad that I managed to get a ps5 in June

silverfish, Thursday, 25 August 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

Reading comments, a lot of people think this is related mostly to currency devaluation, esp. relative to the dollar, which is why the US didn't see a price hike (yet).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 August 2022 16:59 (one year ago) link

love the way Sony keep giving me excuses to not buy their console
where is PS5 slim at

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

i'll buy one in jan 2026 to align with when i bought my ps4

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:39 (one year ago) link

by then it might even have games

ciderpress, Thursday, 25 August 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

Honestly, I'd be happy if developers just spent the next two years optimizing all the PS4 games I haven't played yet for PS5. Then when they're done they can get to work on some sweet exclusives. Like a remade Bloodborne or a fourth version of The Last of Us.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 August 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

Just finished "Spider-man Remastered," and given it's not easily purchased but shows off the faster loading screens and subtly improved graphics of the PS5 it really should have come packaged with the system, imo.

Just began the PS5 optimized version of "Control," which I'd been holding off on starting due to tales of performance issues on last gen systems. So far plays really well on the PS5, which affirms my suspicion that the PS5 (so far) really operates as more of a PS4 Pro 2. Which is fine with me, since I never got the Pro, but I look forward to more games designed specifically for the PS5 that can do stuff that only the PS5 can do, and not just more or less the PS4 with slightly faster load times and ray tracing.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

but does it have Spider-man in it?

ciderpress, Thursday, 8 September 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link

"Control"? Not yet, but I have high hopes!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 21:21 (one year ago) link

It's pretty creepy, so I wouldn't be shocked if at some point it had spiders, man.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 September 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

"Control" on the PS5 is actually pretty neat, and per one of my previous posts seems like the sort of thing that would have struggled on slower systems. Just all the physics and particles and explosive desk parts flying around, it all seems like the perfect game for a faster processor (or PC, lol, but that's always the case).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 September 2022 17:29 (one year ago) link

A friend managed to grab a PS5 as they went on sale on the official site at 4.30pm UK time. By the time I got round to it, standalone disc consoles were sold out. P frustrating

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 01:20 (one year ago) link

"State of Play" today, iirc. I expect "God of War" footage but there are a bunch of other exciting things that could further be teased.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 12:03 (one year ago) link

What a weird presentation.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

I got my Ps5 today but I'm tearing my hair out trying to get my saved game data from my PS4 to my PS5.

I've looked up all the different methods, connected the two consoles via ethernet cable etc.

It says to follow instructions and when prompted, hold down the standby button on the PS4 for one second until it beeps, but nothing happens - there is no beep. The PS4 is supposed to reset but nothing happens and the prompt times out.

The other option is to do it via USB. I have the extended storage I used on my PS4 and it seems to have all my games show up fine. But when I go into settings and try to copy saved data from the USB drive it says it's not connected.

I'm baffled. My friend who got her PS5 today said it all got sorted out during initial set up and she can access her saved games fine. I'm sure I did everything correctly in set up, so I'm not sure why I'm having this problem.

Anyone here know about these things?

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 15 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

unfortunately no. I transferred everything on my ps4 to an external drive then connected it to the ps5 and that did the trick.

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:23 (one year ago) link

i don't think you can put both game installs and related save data on the same external drive. i guess your saved data is only on your ps4's internal drive, that's why connecting the USB drive doesn't transfer it

if you have another usb drive lying around, use that to backup your ps4 saves then plug it into the ps5. i believe that for save backups, any FAT32 or exFAT formatted drive will do, even if you have other files in there

alternatively, if you have a ps+ sub, perhaps you could work around this by uploading all of your saves to their servers, then downloading back to your ps5.
i can't guarantee this would work because for me everything went smoothly when transferring via ethernet cable

chihuahuau, Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

Huh. I followed the same PS setup instructions and transferred over ethernet cable, and it went pretty smoothly. To transfer the save data for at least some games did involve a few extra steps, following the instructions to do it with a USB drive, but ultimately went pretty smoothly, too. Maybe follow a youtube video? I think I ended up doing that, and the visual information helped a lot.

The sneaky thing is that the PS5 can play PS4 games off an external drive, but PS5 games have to be on the system itself (I think), which confuses the save communication.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 September 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

I managed to somehow fudge it for Elden Ring at least. It took a lot of effing and jeffing. I tried several methods. Most of the PS4 games are now loading saved data just fine and the few PS5 upgrade games I have don't really matter about saved data so much

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link

It is a bit frustrating about the whole PS5 games not being savable on the external drive. I've only got a handful of games on the console and already it's pretty full up.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:55 (one year ago) link

I was surprised to find it's a little bit noisy too. Nothing deafening, but definitely a noticeable whirr or hum, as it's horizontal on a TV stand shelf.

I wasn't too keen on the haptic feedback at first either but I guess I'm getting used to it. The little Astro game you get free with it is supposed to demonstrate it a bit. However I felt very aware of that I was holding a thing with gyros and wheels inside and rather than making it more immersive, it took me out of it a bit. Still, getting used to it as I say.

Looking forward to playing something new on this thing that really demonstrates its potential. Elden Ring looks seriously fantastic on here compared to the PS4

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Friday, 16 September 2022 01:59 (one year ago) link

you definitely have to cycle in ps5 games or just be willing to play things as PS4.

Have you played the Demons Souls remake?

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 September 2022 03:05 (one year ago) link

That one and the newest Ratchet and Clank are apparently the best showcases for what the PS5 can do, which makes me excited for more PS5 exclusives. Also, excited for seasonal sale prices to finally convince me to buy them.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

the subscription service is frankly greatly diseensentivizing me buying new games which i like

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

there's enough i want to play on the PS+ list to keep my going for months without needing to buy anything at the moment, and not likely to be much coming out that i feel compelled to play full price for at the moment

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

I picked up Returnal and Demon Souls second hand. Still waiting on DS to be delivered but wow, Returnal is really something!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Saturday, 17 September 2022 08:38 (one year ago) link

Have got a PS5 for my son for Christmas (well, and for me)

Do they do a PS Hits type range yet? As most of the games seem pretty pricey

groovypanda, Thursday, 22 September 2022 08:42 (one year ago) link

Take a look at the various PS Plus options, there's a lot of games on there now

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 September 2022 09:58 (one year ago) link

I've now got hold of Demon's Souls and Returnal and they are both lush. What's especially incredible is the 3D sound.

It's a bit of a shame that the only difference between Elden Ring on PS5 is a slight improvement to graphics and loading times - I feel they could have done more with haptic feedback and sound. As such, apparently it's recommended PS5 gamers just play the PS4 versionfor the smoothest experience. Also, my trophies don't transfer from one version to the other, and I was close to platinuming!

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

They still haven't optimized the PS5 port, even now? Geez

Nhex, Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link

I've saved my PS4 game file for the inevitable DLC, so I don't have to replay the whole thing, but they've got to have patched whatever minor lag or whatever was going on with the PS5 version, right?

So far my favorite thing about the PS5 is actually the controller, which is generally sturdier and more responsive than the PS4 controller. The reduced loading times probably come second. Third is maybe the way it handles a bunch of stuff going on at once, like in "Control" or, I imagine, "Returnal." Last may be the graphics, but that's because the graphics on the PS4 were already pretty solid, imo, and they figured out lots of tricks to make them look even better, and the actual improvements on the PS5 (like ray tracing and other details) I find pretty subtle; even things like Digital Foundry videos take a keen eye to really notice some differences (or I at least I have trouble).

Like I said, I'm curious what they can do when developers lean into the PS5 exclusively, because so far most games are still being released dual-system. That said, groovy, keep an eye out for cheaper PS4 games with free or relatively inexpensive PS5 upgrades. Spider-mans, Control, Uncharted 4, etc. This reddit thread has been keeping track of PS5 game improvements in general:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/me452n/updated_list_of_60_fps_games/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link

The PS5 version of Elden Ring does look nice - there are tiny moments of "whoa" you get, just the texture of grass or the way the light plays, that doesn't happen on PS4. That said, I found there was a bit of jerkiness when in the mode that's optimised for graphics, not so much the FPS mode.

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

Sadly I can't upgrade Control because I didn't buy the right edition. Same with Death Stranding which I'm really looking forward to playing - I'll have to buy the Director's Cut

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 22 September 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I had the same issue with Control, but I just waited for the Ultimate Edition to go on sale. I doubt I paid more than $20 for the game on PS4, so another $20 a couple of years later was nbd.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:34 (one year ago) link

I just don't want to play 30-40 hours again to get back to the end of the game. Maybe before the inevitable sequel comes out or something

Nhex, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:38 (one year ago) link

So far I've yet to find a game I want to play twice. Elden Ring, for example, I enjoyed it, but the notion of putting 80+ hours into it again, it makes me shudder. Same with the other From games, or Hollow Knight; learning the controls again alone would be maddening, let alone sharpening skills. Maybe RDR2, if they upgraded it (which I think they decided against?).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 13:43 (one year ago) link

A friend gave me her copy of Forbidden West and I really would love to play it, but I only got a short way through the original game - does it matter?

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Thursday, 22 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

I'm almost done with FW and never played the first one. It was a bit confusing at times in terms of story, but I never really regretted it. I think I read the wikipedia about the first one once just to understand some of the backstory

rob, Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

I loved the first one, and can't imagine skipping it. But I haven't played the second one yet because I only relatively recently played the first and am not ready for the second, which I assume is more of the same. So: game limbo.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 September 2022 15:22 (one year ago) link

HZD ends on a cliffhanger which HFW picks up, and though it kind of pains me to say, you might get more out of HFW than brute-forcing your way through HZD, as the first game has a number of rough edges that bothered me (floaty physics, serviceable dialogue at best, desultory art direction during cut scenes). That said, I also would recommend people play HFW on a PS5 or at least a PS4 Pro -- I played on a Slim and through ~11 patches, I still had issues with things like shimmering and asset pop-in.

Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Thursday, 22 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link

yeah the cliffhanger aspect was definitely a little weird as a starting point, and there were a few moments where I wondered if I shouldn't have started it as a standalone. It's def more of a sequel than, say, Witcher 3 which I also played without playing the others.

But idk ultimately I like games like that for wandering around and doing whatever I want and tend not to get super invested in the story (and I found the writing/acting pretty variable tbh), so ymmv

rob, Thursday, 22 September 2022 17:26 (one year ago) link


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