I have had it up to here waiting for the Beatles catalogue to be remastered

it's obvious he's going to reanimate the Cavern-era Beatles into live holograms and have them tour the country, thus putting all their tribute bands out of work.

could also be a reboot of the Sgt. Pepper movie featuring current pop stars

harry styles, burna boy, ed sheeran, and charlie puth _are_ THE BEATLES

“I can’t say much about it but we’re taking about a shoot later this year in Libya, by the the sea with lots of candles, and 2000 arabs with torches… it’ll be beautiful…”

i'm psyched for a sequel to danny boyle's "yesterday." it will be called "tomorrow (never nose)" and will star ringo as the only person alive who remembers the beatles, and paul as ed sheeran.

could it be paul and ringo and two other people? clapton? Jeff Lynne? roy wood? marshall crenshaw? nils lofgrin? andy fairweather lowe? todddd?

Whatever Jackson's got cooking, it won't top this. https://www.theonion.com/ringo-starr-announces-26th-beatles-album-with-new-backi-1819579915

y'all are missing the obvious: Jackson plans to finally relaized the planned Beatles Lord of the Rings project, using Computer Technology to insert their faces and voices into all six of his Tolkien films

So they'll all be played by Andy Serkis then

Gotcha

Whatever Jackson's got cooking, it won't top this. https://www.theonion.com/ringo-starr-announces-26th-beatles-album-with-new-backi-1819579915

― birdistheword

real talk if this had happened it'd just mean that the beatles catalogue would include albums by todd rundgren, jeff lynne, and if we're extremely lucky, r. stevie moore - if there's one guy who _never_ has to resort to former touring guitarists for jefferson starship to back him up, it's ringo...

BBC's version of Orton's Up Aganst It is here for anyone who has a spare 90 minutes and the requisite boredom/madness. Pru Scales! Damon from Blur!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9QGhkMONvI

love how offhanded this is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o69tnRA0VJI

probably could've done with a better bass player than keef, a fun foot tap duel around 4:35

Love that!

Vague rumour that there’ll be a Revolver box set in October

Not sure there’s a massive amount of alternative take interest left unreleased for Revolver but would love you one day hear a stereo mix without extreme separation. Last year Giles Martin said the software wasn’t quite ready for the job of perfectly disentangling tracks that held mixdowns of vocals and instruments so hope they’re not jumping the gun.

love you

Does anyone know when they started saving more stuff from their sessions? I was under the impression a lot of things were erased, maybe even most things, towards the start of their career. I bring this up because one of the interesting inclusions in Anthology was a vibes track for "I'm Only Sleeping" - but only a small fragment survived as it had clearly been erased. (What survives was basically the tail end of the recording. Whatever was recorded over the take simply wasn't long enough to erase the whole thing.)

My take on the vibraphone arrangement of "I'm Only Sleeping" is that they never got around to adding vocals to it, but didn't want to take up space on the Anthology 2 set with a full instrumental outtake (though they obviously did so on Anthology 3). I think very, very little was erased after, say, 1962. The iTunes 1963 Bootleg Recordings has almost 40 minutes of outtakes, and I can't imagine that by the time they got to Revolver there was any policy in place of re-using tape. That is, "Paul's broken a glass, broken a glass" was saved, so there's probably a hefty amount of Revolver outtakes.

The main issue with Revolver is that -- and I'm leaving myself open to correction here -- they hadn't yet started bouncing down from one 4-track to another, so there are no "stems" to revisit when attempting a thorough remix.

Apropos of nothing, here are some notes I made following this afternoon’s Twitter Spaces…

🤫 pic.twitter.com/8Fj5p9Atsa

— EggPod 🍏 (@IAmTheEggPod) August 7, 2022

Soon after the Sgt. Pepper box was released, Giles Martin said there definitely wouldn't be a white album box. Soon after the white album box was released, Giles said there definitely wouldn't be an Abbey Road box. Since Giles said a similar remix of Revolver wasn't possible, it means a Revolver box is probably happening.

What are the only "official" Beatles tracks (released by 1970) where McCartney doesn't appear?

"She Said She Said"
"Julia"
"Good Night"

(He's supposedly playing the piano on "Revolution 9".)

Anything else?

Oh, "Within You Without You".

Since Giles said a similar remix of Revolver wasn't possible, it means a Revolver box is probably happening

(He's supposedly playing the piano on "Revolution 9".)

Yeah, he's singing the "can you take me back" bit which is officially part of Rev9. (even though it isn't really)

I think "She Said" is the only one where he's missing and the other three are playing.

I had to check, and someone actually uploaded the liner notes to Anthology 1, 2 & 3 online!

https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/264x59/anthology_liner_notes/

The relevant parts re: "I'm Only Sleeping" are here:

https://i.imgur.com/5tht3D3.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/HjmkTud.jpeg

(Liner notes were by Lewisohn, FWIW)

Working towards overcoming technical difficulties seems more like hpoing that "deminxing" tools improve to the point that it's viable. They almost certainly will improve but there may also be inherent limits, although I guess it could be a case of reconstructing tracks with AI tools.

deminxing lol

Who'd want that?

The relevant parts re: "I'm Only Sleeping" are here:

Thanks for posting those! I suppose if it was approached as a rehearsal, they probably thought none of it could be of immediate use and/or fit for release at that time.

re: "demixing," Giles used that process (those processes?) on the 2016 Live At The Hollywood Bowl, which sounds fine, but isn't a dramatic improvement over the 1977 mix.

reconstructing tracks with AI tools

And from there it's a short leap to a hologram reboot of the rooftop concert

You could probably pull that off now, have the show eight stories higher than the audience.

My own experience with separation audio software is that the sharing of frequencies from different instruments, like guitars and vocals or middle-range sounds in general, results in certain problems and really noticeable artifacts.

At the moment this software interface is a basic 'press go and hope for the best' model, but in the future, when processing speeds catch up or faster/more efficient software is written, I imagine that degrees of control will then be introduced and Giles Martin and his pals will be able to fully peel apart the guitars, cymbals and high vocals in She Loves You, and the world will be able to buy them over again in Dolby Atmos or summat.

It would be controversial but using digital extraction (which I believe Beach Boys have used on some some recent stereo mixes), even the first two albums could be remixed as four or eight track with vocals and bass in the middle.

This is a question that goes wider than the Beatles and deserves its own thread, but this technology is not going to stop developing, and people are going to want to apply it to all sorts of old recordings. At the moment, debates about authenticity are mostly limited to 'is this mix right?' but as AI plays a bigger role, there'll be questions about what the original recordings involved in the mix even are. Visual AI is well ahead of audio AI, of course, and if any of you have played with apps that magically enhance the resolution of a photo you'll know how these boundaries are all dissolving. In fact, an iPhone does a whole bunch of AI on the photo even at the original capture stage.

It's all going to be interesting as all the raw meat of early recordings gets fed to the AI beast.

I mean this guy is kinda doing software separation remixes of all sorts of old records, he's done The Beatles, Pink Floyd, etc:

https://www.profstoned.com/2022/08/the-beatles-beatles-for-sale-remixed.html

Thank you! Loving them.

Now there’s an idea….

— Giles Martin (@mashupmartin) August 11, 2022

Does anyone here listen to Giles's remixes very often? I know it's the main selling point of these box sets, but personally, I've give at best one or one and a half listens and that's it. (The only one I bothered holding on to was Pepper and even then I still prefer the mono mix.) I'm more about the bonus material rather than the new album mixes.

*I've given them

I prefer his mixes to the originals. I prefer clarity and separation of parts. It only occasionally doesn't work for me. For example, the murkiness of "Long Long Long" doesn't really benefit from the Miles treatment. Curious how the muddier tracks on Revolver might fare like "I'm Only Sleeping".

I listen to the white album remix a lot, and I love it. I think the Abbey Road remix is fine, but I'd probably be hard-pressed to tell the difference between it and the original mix. I only heard the Sgt. Pepper remix once, and I liked it, but haven't revisited it (more due to time constraints than anything). But the white album remix cleared out a lot of sonic cobwebs for me (sonic cobwebs I didn't notice until they were missing).

It's a big 50/50 for me. Some tracks are certainly improved while others could have been left alone.

This sounds a bit much, but I wish I could put each song in its original order while shuffling in a different version of each track. Go through USSR / Prudence / Glass Onion, but randomly have the mono USSR, the 1987 Prudence and the Giles Onion appear. That way, I could still listen to the album, but not be trapped in a certain mix.

the new mixes are better on headphones at least

Nothing new in here really, but Variety confident enough to print it

https://variety.com/2022/music/news/beatles-revolver-deluxe-remix-next-up-box-set-fall-giles-martin-1235351400/

I'm actually more open to remixes for the earlier stuff. Something like Abbey Road already had a great mix supervised by the Beatles, but for the sloppier, early stuff, I'd like to see what Giles can do. I'm glad he said this:

"I’m looking for the technology to do [the remixing] with, to do something really innovative with ‘Rubber Soul’ and ‘Revolver,’ as opposed to just a remastering job, because it’s been remastered already."

To be fair, I wouldn't mind hearing them try the purist route of mastering with correct, vintage tube equipment, no compression, no limiting and minimal EQ, but barring that unlikely event, I wouldn't be interested in a new mastering at this point.

early is probably a poor choice of words - more like pre-White Album

alleged track list:

Looks like this is what we can expect! pic.twitter.com/ZquLYHaC2H

— EggPod 🍏 (@IAmTheEggPod) August 26, 2022

To be fair, I wouldn't mind hearing them try the purist route of mastering with correct, vintage tube equipment, no compression, no limiting and minimal EQ

MoFi should handle this.

Mmmm ‘songwriting work tape’.

No "Carnival of Light," no credibility.