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this shit is hilarious

"it's an honor to be able to work on a system of that capability." "indeed."

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

its just so funny hearing these guys trying to make peace with the fact that they've sunk thousands & thousands of dollars into this stuff all saying "i dont care if theres digital in the process as long as it sounds good, its the DISHONESTY thats bad." which is obv the correct & healthy attitude to have, but ofc is something they never ever would have said until a week ago

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

Nerrrrrrrds

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

Can’t believe I’ve sunk thousands of dollars into finding the best sounding copy of the most basic-ass records

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:29 (one year ago) link

Beyond the dishonesty, I'm still trying to understand how the smaller album art/dumb calculator looking font strip on the top records are worth a premium to anyone.

Last year I picked up a copy of Mingus's Black Saint and the Sinner Lady for the equivalent of 28 US dollars.. very fancy heavy jacket and inner sleeve, all around premium. It was part of the "Acoustic Sounds" line... they're owned by "Analogue Productions" (or maybe it's the other way around). It's promoted as "from the original analog tapes"! ...not sure Mingus got to work in digital anyhow so OK. Sounds great. It seems muddy online as to whether people think this would've had a digital step in it. But I see how they're eager to let your mind go in that direction, if you're so inclined.

Anyways why are a lot of MoFi releases $100? Is that just the ones that are cut in one step... while most records, no matter the source, are some three step pressing process? That's how some people might keep ponying up for these? Even though it should be clear enough now that the $30 CD is from the exact same transfer of masters.

Apparently what made a lot of people suspicious is that they started advertising a "one step" of Thriller in an edition of 40,000. Surely they would not be allowed to play the master tapes however many times it would take to make lacquers enough for 40,000 vinyls! Sure enough, they needn't.

It's too funny.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 01:39 (one year ago) link

The whole analog vs. digital mentality isn't worth the headache and that even applies to the movie world. I like to go to 35mm film screenings, but I also concede that most film prints these days have a digital intermediate now, and that's true for older films that need to be restored. It's ridiculous how people get worked up over an analog purity doctrine when there's a shit ton of problems that are more important in the world. Hell, I'm not even that crazy about vinyl due to the environmental impact of creating that plastic alone.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

FWIW, here's what I mean on that last point.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:51 (one year ago) link

i feel like shaming people about the environmental impact of their record collecting hobby is arguably a worse look than getting distressed about your audiophile records having been sourced from digital

budo jeru, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:57 (one year ago) link

I think shaming people over their records is stupid, partly because the issues aren't unique to vinyl records, but the overall point isn't wrong either. It's all part of a much greater problem with plastic and other petrol products, and to be fair, there have been improvements in addressing that (with plastics in general if not vinyl production itself).

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

Liner notes to Frank Zappa's Joe's Garage trilogy, 1979 (yeah, yeah, I know, I know, I'm just saying):

Desperate nerds in high offices all over the world have been known to enact the most disgusting pieces of legislation in order to win votes (or, in places where they don't get to vote, to control unwanted forms of mass behavior)

Environmental laws were not passed to protect our air and water ... they were passed to get votes. Seasonal anti-smut campaigns are not conducted to rid our communities of moral rot ... they are conducted to give an aura of saintliness to the office-seekers who demand them. If a few key phrases are thrown into any speech (as the expert advisors explain to these various heads of state) votes will roll in, bucks will roll in, and, most importantly, power will be maintained by the groovy guy (or gal) who gets the most media coverage for his sleaze. Naturally, his friends in various businesses will do okay too

All governments perpetuate themselves through the daily commission of acts which a rational person might find to be stupid or dangerous (or both). Naturally, our government is no exception ... for instance, if the President (any one of them) went on TV and sat there with the flag in the background (or maybe a rustic scene on a little backdrop, plus the flag) and stared sincerely into the camera and told everybody that all energy problems and all inflationary problems had been traced to and could be solved by the abolition of MUSIC, chances are that most people would believe him and think that the illegalization of this obnoxious form of noise pollution would be a small price to pay for the chance to buy gas like the good ol' days. No way? Never happen? Records are made out of oil. All those big rock shows go from town to town in fuel-gobbling 45 foot trucks ... and when they get there, they use up enormous amounts of electrical energy with their lights, their amplifiers, their PA systems ... their smoke machines. And all those synthesizers...look at all the plastic they got in 'em ... and the guitar picks ... you name it ...

JOE'S GARAGE is a stupid story about how the government is going to try to do away with music (a prime cause of unwanted mass behavior)! It's sort of like a really cheap kind of high school play ... the way it might have been done 20 years ago, with all the sets made out of cardboard boxes and poster paint. It's also like those lectures that local narks used to give (where they show you a display of all the different ways you can get wasted, with the pills leading to the weed leading to the needle, etc., etc.). If the plot of the story seems just a little bit preposterous, and if the idea of The Central Scrutinizer enforcing laws that haven't been passed yet makes you giggle, just be glad you don't live in one of the cheerful little countries where, at this very moment, music is either severely restricted ... or, as it is in Iran, totally illegal

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:13 (one year ago) link

LOL, yeah point taken. I'm not advocating for banning records - for starters, I still buy plenty of physical media - and again it's part of a bigger problem that I usually talk about without singling out a particular product, except maybe automobiles (which use far more petroleum).

Audiophiles don't like this, but recycling vinyl was a common practice, especially in the U.S., and there's a lot more vinyl out there than what's being produced, so to me, if this suddenly became a pressing issue for some reason (pun not intended), a realistically helpful solution already exists.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link

I don't know if these numbers check out, but FWIW:

In a 2019 article for the Conversation, (Sharon) George and co-author Deirdre McKay calculated that if you listen to an album more than 27 times, it makes better environmental sense to buy that album on CD rather than to stream it. Speaking to the New Statesman in October 2021, George said she had revised that calculation, using updated numbers on carbon reporting figures for plastic (used for both a CD and its case) and for media streaming. Her conclusion? Listening to an album via a streaming platform for just five hours is equal in terms of carbon to the plastic of a physical CD. The comparative time for a vinyl record is 17 hours.

https://www.newstatesman.com/environment/2021/11/how-environmentally-damaging-is-music-streaming

bulb after bulb, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:32 (one year ago) link

Thanks bulb. It's easy for me because it already made sense for financial reasons and for convenience, but I've always preferred used CD's. They're cheap, they're already out there (nothing new is being produced), and at least it keeps them from going into a landfill since CD's themselves aren't easily recyclable. That wasn't the reason I originally got into used CD buying - I was a kid who had to save his money - but it's supported the reasoning to keep doing it.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:37 (one year ago) link

I am all for reducing waste and environmental impact wherever I can - and I do, pretty much everything I own is secondhand apart from music and some clothes - but making the general public feel like their individual actions are the driver of climate change is a classic gaslighting power move adapted from big tobacco. Buying a CD doesn’t matter shit compared to the environment waivers they got through in the asshole’s term in office. Although if it matters, vinyl is one of the few plastics which can be genuinely recycled, whereas the polycarbonate of CDs and their packaging can only be ground up and used as fill in composite materials I think.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

I remember watching this a couple of years ago and wondering how much the immediate environmental impact (ie air quality in your home) actually mattered. I live in the middle of an eastern-state sized concrete pad with 7 million people driving on it, concrete plants, a coal or natural-gas fired power plant like three miles away and I used to smoke 1-1.5 packs of cigarettes a day so it was tough for me to take seriously as a health risk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2czFuIYmQ

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

Re: "making the general public feel like their individual actions are the driver of climate change is a classic gaslighting power" - if we're talking about the way we live in a broad sense, I'm not sure how to answer this because climate change is generally caused by the excess greenhouse gases created by human activity. There's no getting around that it's rooted in our individual actions collectively.

I guess the keyword is probably gaslighting because shaming and taking responsibility aren't the same thing, and what comes out of that isn't the same thing. The core issue is reducing greenhouse gases from energy use, which is a lot of things, but the main course of action has been renewable sources, one that doesn't aim to alter people's day-to-day activities in a major behavioral way but seeks to power those activities in a way that isn't worsening the problem.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

In short, ideally, you don't want people to feel ashamed or terrible about themselves, but you also don't want people to blow off what's a major crisis that's going to need widespread support and engagement.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:50 (one year ago) link

What I meant was the next bit in the post - corporations and manufacturers using political clout to dodge any kind of consequence for environmentally shitty practices, governments propping up fossil fuel economies, etc., are the real problem, not whether I buy an LP or 300 LPs. I know our way of life is the driver; it's being lulled by cheap sparkly things while the 1% pursue individual wealth without heed of the consequences, that makes the problem endemic.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

fwiw the idea plastics are getting more environmentally friendly or that vinyl records could be recycled into other records are both false, afaict

the consensus is generally that we're stuck with plastic, though. the largest oil companies have glowing documentation about how they see the market for plastics expanding almost exponentially over the next few decades and they doubled down on that as soon as the market started signaling fossil fuel use might possibly diminish

as for recycling, plastics degrade and you're going to end up with a material inferior to what you started with every time

you could see the process as collecting and keeping vinyl records as keeping plastic that's going to get produced anyway out of landfills and the ocean, I guess

mh, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 14:20 (one year ago) link

xp Got it, and you're absolutely right a thousand times over, and that ties in with mh's post. (more on that in a sec) Pruitt's short time as the EPA head was a disgusting display of the corrupt and self-entitled mentality at work - like "how dare you people put your health over our wealth?" They actually defined it as "picking the winners and losers" - JFC, trying not to poison or give people cancer and protecting nature's health and continued survival is a universal necessity, not some fucking prize in a competition.

mh is right though - I didn't want to load too much environmental discussion into this thread (apologies if it's too off topic), but plastic quality diminishes much more than metal or glass with recycling. Paper too though they have paper products that accommodate that (paper on its last legs is perfect for tissue) and regardless paper can ultimately be composted. With plastic, it will likely end up as microscopic plastic particles because it doesn't really break down completely even as it gets weaker - plastic pollution is so prevalent now that it's virtually impossible to eat fish without ingesting some microscopic plastic. The oil companies aren't going to stop producing plastic though - as mentioned, they are actually ramping up production because they're facing decreasing petrol use (electric cars, renewable energy) and they have no intention of letting their revenue slide. It's become an inherently sociopathic business.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 27 July 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

Behind the scenes of MoFiGate!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/music/2022/08/05/mofi-records-analog-digital-scandal/

MoFi’s executive vice president: “I regret everything, man.”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 5 August 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

Jesus, it's bizarre seeing something that's usually isolated in some weird corner of the internet make its way into the Post.

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 19:55 (one year ago) link

Then again I guess that pretty much sums up the last six years.

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

That's actually a good article about the whole thing, I liked this quote:

“The other part that bothers them is that they’ve been listening to digital all along and they’re highly invested in believing that any digital step will destroy their experience. And they’re wrong.”

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 5 August 2022 20:35 (one year ago) link

i dunno i think that article generates more heat than light. a pertinent question for the mofi folks might have been why they used a sampling method that far exceeds anything a consumer can get via even hi-res digital. might they also (gasp) think the more common sampling techniques are subpar? at least for their purposes?

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:24 (one year ago) link

i mean, if the point is to mock audiophiles, i get it. but if the point is to actually explore the world of sound reproduction, they did not do that.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link

I’m with thus sang Freud here, there are more interesting angles to explore here besides “lol at audiophiles”.

brimstead, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

it's so funny to me that this made the news

marcel the shell with swag on (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 August 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

that in groove guy has an interesting backstory.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:40 (one year ago) link

probably more interesting than the article, honestly!

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:54 (one year ago) link

Being able to try different cuts is a very persuasive and reasonable argument for using files. It's also understandable that they would have had trouble finding a way to sell it, given the brand, and just let it slide.

Noel Emits, Friday, 5 August 2022 22:59 (one year ago) link

This brings to mind George Lucas's response to Martin Scorsese re: whether or not digital was truly inferior to film/analog - "If it had a DI, it's already digital." The point being, right before 35mm prints were most phased out, and even now when the occasional film tries to strike 35mm prints, anything shot on film will still get transferred to digital for the grading and color correction. There's no way anyone's not doing that because then they have to forfeit a LOT of tools that have become standard in grading, which has become a completely different and far more complicated stage of work than before. Even vintage films will probably get a DI in order to take advantage of digital restoration tools, which can handle a lot of things photochemical restoration won't. It's all in that YouTube interview, which is indeed a slog to get through, but as they explain, going to DSD gives them a huge advantage. I'd say it's kind of like working with a 6K scan (if you think of 2K being redbook PCM and and 4K being DSD), it would be extremely difficult to ask someone to ditch that and stay in the analog world when the benefits vastly outweighs the disadvantages to most discerning people.

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

*going to DSD 256
*4K being DSD 64

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

(yes, the math doesn't line up, but bear with me on the analogy)

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:08 (one year ago) link

agree with everything birdintheword is saying. reading the comments to the wapo article, though, the clear takeaway seems to be "lol audiophiles," which is not deserved. i doubt many audiophiles have heard DSD 256.

Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

Is it the case though that to perform most digital processing on a DSD recording it has to be converted to PCM and back? Or can DSD be processed directly now?

Noel Emits, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

I mean I assume they meant they could try things out with the analogue chain, I haven't watched the whole interview.

Noel Emits, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link

It probably depends on what you're doing, but there's less reason to now. IIRC when SACD was first introduced, there weren't any DSD tools you could use to alter a DSD file. So if you were mastering an analog recording for SACD, you either had to feed the console through analog tools (which is ideal) or if you really preferred to do it digitally, converts the DSD to hi-res PCM, do whatever there, then convert back to DSD. Bob Ludwig did that with a lot of Rolling Stones stuff because he had a lot of digital PCM-only tools he wanted to use rather than give them up for the project. Personally, I wish he gave them up and just be okay with doing less with the recordings in order to preserve all the data in the original DSD transfer, but what's done is done.

They eventually developed DSD tools though, so going to PCM and back really makes little sense anymore.

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

*feed the analog signal through analog tools

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link

*convert

birdistheword, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:26 (one year ago) link

Just watching a bit.

They're talking about calibrating the tape machine to match the calibration of the original recorder for each song of an album individually and then transferring to digital.

So that's pretty interesting and obviously it wouldn't be possible to do that if cutting directly.

Noel Emits, Friday, 5 August 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link

How a Phoenix record store owner set the audiophile world on fire
Geoff Edgers13-16 minutes 8/5/2022
Mike Esposito still won’t say who gave him the tip about the records. But on July 14, he went public with an explosive claim.

In a sometimes halting video posted to the YouTube channel of his Phoenix record shop, the ‘In’ Groove, Esposito said that “pretty reliable sources” told him that MoFi (Mobile Fidelity), the Sebastopol, Calif., company that has prided itself on using original master tapes for its pricey reissues, had actually been using digital files in its production chain. In the world of audiophiles — where provenance is everything and the quest is to get as close to the sound of an album’s original recording as possible — digital is considered almost unholy. And using digital while claiming not to is the gravest sin a manufacturer can commit.

There was immediate pushback to Esposito’s video, including from some of the bigger names in the passionate audio community.

Shane Buettner, owner of Intervention Records, another company in the reissue business, defended MoFi on the popular message board moderated by mastering engineer Steve Hoffman. He remembered running into one of the company’s engineers at a recording studio working with a master tape. “I know their process and it’s legit,” he wrote. Michael Fremer, the dean of audiophile writing, was less measured. He slammed Esposito for irresponsibly spreading rumors and said his own unnamed source told him the record store owner was wrong. “Will speculative click bait YouTube videos claiming otherwise be taken down after reading this?” he tweeted.

But at MoFi’s headquarters in Sebastopol, John Wood knew the truth. The company’s executive vice president of product development felt crushed as he watched Esposito’s video. He has worked at the company for more than 26 years and, like most of his colleagues, championed its much lauded direct-from-master chain. Wood could hear the disappointment as Esposito, while delivering his report, also said that some of MoFi’s albums were among his favorites. So Wood picked up the phone, called Esposito and suggested he fly to California for a tour. It’s an invite he would later regret.

That visit resulted in a second video, published July 20, in which MoFi’s engineers confirmed, with a kind of awkward casualness, that Esposito was correct with his claims. The company that made its name on authenticity had been deceptive about its practices. The episode is part of a crisis MoFi now concedes was mishandled.

“It’s the biggest debacle I’ve ever seen in the vinyl realm,” says Kevin Gray, a mastering engineer who has not worked with MoFi but has produced reissues of everyone from John Coltrane to Marvin Gaye.

“They were completely deceitful,” says Richard Drutman, 50, a New York City filmmaker who has purchased more than 50 of MoFi’s albums over the years. “I never would have ordered a single Mobile Fidelity product if I had known it was sourced from a digital master.”

Record labels use digital files to make albums all the time: It’s been the industry norm for more than a decade. But a few specialty houses — the Kansas-based Analogue Productions, London’s Electric Recording Co. and MoFi among them — have long advocated for the warmth of analog.

“Not that you can’t make good records with digital, but it just isn’t as natural as when you use the original tape,” says Bernie Grundman, 78, the mastering engineer who worked on the original recordings of Steely Dan’s “Aja,” Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” and Dr. Dre’s “The Chronic.”

Mobile Fidelity and its parent company, Music Direct, were slow to respond to the revelation. But last week, the company began updating the sourcing information on its website and also agreed to its first interview, with The Washington Post. The company says it first used DSD, or Direct Stream Digital technology, on a 2011 reissue of Tony Bennett’s “I Left My Heart in San Francisco.” By the end of 2011, 60 percent of its vinyl releases incorporated DSD. All but one of the reissues as part of its One-Step series, which include $125 box set editions of Santana, Carole King and the Eagles, have used that technology. Going forward, all MoFi cutting will incorporate DSD.

Syd Schwartz, Mobile Fidelity’s chief marketing officer, made an apology.

“Mobile Fidelity makes great records, the best-sounding records that you can buy,” he said. “There had been choices made over the years and choices in marketing that have led to confusion and anger and a lot of questions, and there were narratives that had been propagating for a while that were untrue or false or myths. We were wrong not to have addressed this sooner.”

Mastering engineer Brad Miller founded MoFi in 1977 to cater largely to audiophiles. The company boomed during the 1980s, but by 1999, with vinyl sales plummeting, the company declared bankruptcy. Jim Davis, owner of the Chicago-based Music Direct, a company that specializes in audio equipment, purchased the label and revived MoFi. During the recent vinyl resurgence (vinyl sales in 2021 hit their highest mark in 30 years), MoFi’s specialty releases sell out quickly and can be found on secondary markets at much higher prices.

Marketing has been a key element of the MoFi model. Most releases include a banner on the album cover proclaiming it the “Original Master Recording.” And every One-Step, which cut out parts of the production process to supposedly get closer to the original tape, includes a thick explainer sheet in which the company outlines in exacting detail how it creates its records. But there has been one very important item missing: any mention of a digital step.

The company has obscured the truth in other ways. MoFi employees have done interviews for years without mentioning digital. In 2020, Grant McLean, a Canadian customer, got into a debate with a friend about MoFi’s sourcing. McLean believed in the company and wrote to confirm that he was right. In a response he provided to The Post, a customer service representative wrote McLean that “there is no analog to digital conversion in our vinyl cutting process.”

Earlier this year, MoFi announced an upcoming reissue of Jackson’s 1982 smash “Thriller” as a One-Step. The news release said the original master tape would be used for the repressing, which would have a run of 40,000 copies. That’s a substantially bigger number than the usual for a One-Step, which is typically limited to between 3,500 and 7,500 copies.

Michael Ludwigs, a German record enthusiast with a YouTube channel, 45 RPM Audiophile, questioned how this could be possible. Because of the One-Step process, an original master tape would need to be run dozens of times to make that many records. Why would Sony Music Entertainment allow that?

“That’s the kind of thing that deteriorates tape,” says Grundman.

“That’s the one where I think everyone started going, ‘Huh?’” says Ryan K. Smith, a mastering engineer at Sterling Sound in Nashville.

The MoFi controversy has not just exposed tensions between rival record makers. It’s heightened a rift between Fremer and Esposito.

For decades, as LPs were replaced by CDs and iPods, Fremer, now 75, was a lonely voice pushing to keep them alive.

“Michael’s considered the guy, like the guru, so to speak,” says Dale Clark, 54, a photographer and longtime record collector in Ohio.

But Fremer, now a writer for the online magazine the Tracking Angle, has been bickering with Esposito for months. He was furious that MoFi invited Esposito to Sebastopol and wrote an email to Jim Davis on July 17 to protest.

“You have lost your minds,” Fremer wrote. “Mistakes happen that can be corrected. In this case you have chosen to elevate [an inexperienced non-journalist] to work your way out of a predicament instead of a seasoned journalist and I’m not referring necessarily to me. I could name a half dozen others.”

Esposito never claimed to be a journalist.

He’s a record geek who grew up in foster homes after his father was murdered when he was 11. (His mother, he says, has had drug and alcohol problems.) Over the years, Esposito, who didn’t finish high school, has sold sports collectibles and started a chain of mattress stores. In 2015, he opened the ‘In’ Groove in Phoenix. His regular videos, in which he unboxes reissues and ranks different pressings, have made him a popular YouTube presence with almost 40,000 subscribers. He says he felt he owed it to his customers to pursue the MoFi tip.

“I sell to the people I sell to because they trust me,” Esposito, 38, told The Post. “And if they don’t trust me, they can go anywhere else and buy those records.”

Esposito wants record companies to do a better job labeling recording sources. Some already do. Intervention and Analogue Productions provide details on records or their websites; so does Neil Young.

“The problem is ‘analog’ has become a hype word, and most people don’t know how records are made,” says Esposito. “And you can very factually say this record was sourced from the original analog master tape and you’re not lying. But that doesn’t disclose to the consumer what’s going on between the beginning of it and the final product.”

There were no ground rules laid out for Esposito’s July 19 visit. He paid his airfare, and Wood met him at the airport. In the car, Wood confirmed what Esposito had reported in his video.

“They didn’t come off to me as if they were trying to hide anything,” Esposito said.

At MoFi’s headquarters, Esposito looked at tapes and machinery the company uses to master its records. He also saw vintage packaging and advertising materials for past releases, including mock-ups for Beatles reissues. Then he took out his Panasonic camcorder and asked Wood if it was okay for him to set up and do an interview with the three mastering engineers he had met. No problem, they said.

The result is an hour-long conversation that is equally fascinating and confusing. Esposito is not a trained interviewer, and engineers Shawn Britton, Krieg Wunderlich and Rob LoVerde are not trained interviewees. At times, the conversation is stilted and meandering. There are also occasional moments of charm as they connect about their shared passion for music.

Whatever Esposito’s approach, there is no doubt that without him, MoFi’s process would have remained a secret. The engineers, who had stressed the use of tape and working “all analog” in the past, didn’t hesitate to reference the company’s embrace of Direct Stream Digital technology.

Davis, the owner, not only didn’t invite Esposito but also didn’t learn about the visit until after Wood had extended the invitation. He tried to get to Sebastopol for the tour but said that a long line at a rental car check-in left him arriving at MoFi headquarters only after Esposito was finished.

By then, the damage was done. Last week, Wood was asked whether he regretted the interview with the engineers. He broke down.

“I regret everything, man,” he said.

Davis also did not appreciate the interview. Music Direct’s stereo equipment business brings in revenue of more than $40 million a year, and MoFi earned about $9 million last year. But the record company has just a handful of full-time staffers and no crisis-management plan. He doesn’t blame the engineers for what happened

“I mean, it was not a well-thought-out plan,” says Davis. “Let’s put it that way.”

The fallout of the MoFi revelation has thrown the audiophile community into something of an existential crisis. The quality of digitized music has long been criticized because of how much data was stripped out of files so MP3s could fit on mobile devices. But these days, with the right equipment, digital recordings can be so good they can fool even the best ears. Many of MoFi’s now-exposed records were on Fremer and Esposito’s own lists of the best sounding analog albums.

Jamie Howarth, whose Plangent Processes uses digital technology to restore sound and whose work has earned praise for Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen reissues, wishes MoFi had come clean years ago and proudly told its customers that their prized records sounded best because of the digital step. He understands why it didn’t. It was terrified of being attacked by analog-or-bust audiophiles.

“One of the reasons they want to excoriate MoFi is for lying,” says Howarth. “The other part that bothers them is that they’ve been listening to digital all along and they’re highly invested in believing that any digital step will destroy their experience. And they’re wrong.”

Wood says that MoFi decided to add DSD not for convenience but because its engineers felt they could help improve their records. He remembers hearing MoFi’s reissue of Santana’s “Abraxas” in 2016. “My mind was blown when we got the test pressings back,” he said.

Wood says MoFi takes great care in capturing the digital file. It won’t simply accept a link from a record company. If a master tape can’t be couriered to Sebastopol, MoFi will send engineers with their equipment to capture it. Having a file allows them to tinker with the recordings if they’re not pleased with a test pressing and make another. He says he is disappointed in himself for not being upfront but that, from here on out, MoFi will properly label its recordings. A revised One-Step card has already been crafted for upcoming releases featuring Van Halen, Cannonball Adderley and the Eagles.

And Randy Braun, a music lover, Hoffman message board member and lawyer in New York, hopes that, in the end, the MoFi revelation will prove what he’s been saying for years, that the anti-digital crowd has been lying to itself: “These people who claim they have golden ears and can hear the difference between analog and digital, well, it turns out you couldn’t.

| (Latham Green), Friday, 5 August 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

oops didnt mean to post that

| (Latham Green), Friday, 5 August 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

the only human I'm aware of with actual golden ears was Glenn Gould, who could famously differentiate between two digital recording machines that had the same specs

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 5 August 2022 23:55 (one year ago) link

That was an ability bestowed on him by the alien symbiote in his neck.

Noel Emits, Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

lol

thinkmanship (sleeve), Saturday, 6 August 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

Randy Braun with the slam there at the end of the article, lol

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Saturday, 6 August 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

the Michael Fremer bit is ridiculous: why didn't you get me to talk you out of this??

Good article. Seems more like lol @this dishonest, disorganized company than at enthusiasts. That is too funny that the engineers shot the interview without the owner knowing.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 6 August 2022 01:17 (one year ago) link

Oh man, good for a much needed laugh. Audiophiles make themselves easy targets as people who worship gear and generally barely seem interested in music. But I mean, in a burning world, a little harmless schadenfreude is a balm now and then.

Soundslike, Saturday, 6 August 2022 03:18 (one year ago) link

some people's reactions itt remind me of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair

budo jeru, Sunday, 7 August 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link


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