Elvis Presley: Classic Or Dud?

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Isn't ludicrous overstatement Luhrmann's trademark?

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 July 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

RIght. Which is somewhat at cross-purposes with Elvis's perfectly orchestrated overstatement.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link

Just noticed the backing singers (Is it the Sweet Inspirations here?) trying to follow what he is doing in the beginning. So cool.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

At about 1:56.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:32 (one year ago) link

Sweet Inspirations plus Kathy Westmoreland.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

Considering he looks tired and off his face, and he's reading from a piece of paper, that's a spectacularly good lead vocal too

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:59 (one year ago) link

Yes, exactly.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:01 (one year ago) link

The movie ends with a more extreme version of that, which I think was discussed upthread already.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:03 (one year ago) link

Wait, one of the Sweet Inspirations was married to Jerry Schilling? Where was that in the movie?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link

At times I thought - is this the recorded vocal? They're very similar!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 18 July 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

Is that thing punched in or sweetened at all? It’s kind of amazing.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Also, is it really in fact the first live performance? That tour started two weeks prior.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

"We're going to spring a new song on you. We don't know it too well but... if we goof it up just bear with us we'll get it right. It may take a little while but we'll get it right."

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Guralnick says he didn't even want to record it!

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

Bonus points if someone can tell me what artist released a version before Elvis did.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link

"That's new and we've never done it on stage before so if we goof it up, I'm sorry."

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:43 (one year ago) link

Even if he is fudging a bit because he is embarrassed about reading off the paper and it is not actually the very first performance it’s still amazing.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

Bonus points if someone can tell me what artist released a version before Elvis did.

Arthur Alexander!

I know him as June.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:44 (one year ago) link

another example of how Elvis had some of the greatest drummers in the biz

frogbs, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:04 (one year ago) link

Elvis himself was kind of a virtual drummer.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

You know who had the most fun with Elvis on stage?

Elvis.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

Skinny, fat, little or full-size?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:46 (one year ago) link

Yes.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

He always carried a wiggle.

pplains, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:50 (one year ago) link

Is it because of what happens on the road?

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:56 (one year ago) link

Thumbs up: “Beatles and Beards”
Thumbs down: no Dewey Phillips

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:00 (one year ago) link

I mean we were thrilled about Elvis, but it wasn’t like doing Neil Diamond.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 July 2022 22:07 (one year ago) link

Thumbs down: no Dewey Phillips

They did show a DJ playing two records at once though, didn't they?

pplains, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

Right, now I remember. And that was when we heard “Viva Las Vegas” turn into Vanilla Ice saying “check out my hook while my DJ revolves it.”

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 00:36 (one year ago) link

Or was it a certain sample from Beck’s “Where It’s At.”

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 01:11 (one year ago) link

Rock and roll music, if you like it, if you feel it, you can’t help but move to it.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link

That’s what happens to me, I can’t help it.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

I’m pleasantly surprised at the movie. Definitely not a fan of Baz’s style and in the opening minutes with the hyperactive editing I thought I would hate it but it tones down considerably.

Final half hour or so shows there’s a better, very emotive movie somewhere in there. Austin Butler actually nails it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 21 July 2022 15:03 (one year ago) link

OTM. Some of his sheepish guilty husband stuff reminded me of Heath Ledger in I'm Not There.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 July 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah I have to admit tears weren’t far by the end… the marriage breakdown, isolation, physical and mental degradation and the integration of real EP footage brought the movie to a strong final imo.

AlXTC from Paris, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

I used to think my dad was Elvis
But I haven’t told him that yet
I haven’t told my dad either

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 July 2022 17:58 (one year ago) link

RIP. That was a good performance.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 July 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link

Came to post this for some reason:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOAbrFgCWPs

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

Kind of the CBGB version.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 July 2022 16:19 (one year ago) link

That electric bass solo is (fire emoji).

o. nate, Friday, 22 July 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

Maybe not quite at this level but close.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 July 2022 16:47 (one year ago) link

Here's some stuff I recently learned about The Sweet Inspirations that I guess I will post here. The original leader was Cissy Houston whose real name was Emily Drinkard, and at one point she had a group known as the Drinkard Singers managed by her sister, Lee Drinkard, or Arthur Lee Drinkard Warrick, mother of Dione and Dee Dee Warrick then Warwick who were also in the group, along with either Judy Clay or Doris Troy. At some point Cissy and Dee Dee formed The Sweet Inspirations with Syvlia Shemwell, Judy Clay's sister. Dee Dee went solo and was replaced by Myrna Smith and finally Estelle Brown was added. This quartet backed up Aretha, Dionne, Doris Troy, Judy Clay and many others. They joined Elvis's band for his Vegas shows but I believe Cissy left soon afterwards to start a solo career, make Myrna Smith the chief Sweet. Myrna later married Jerry Schilling (Elvis bought them a house) and perhaps was the only Sweet to sing on some of Elvis's studio recordings such as "Hurt." Jerry Schilling also managed or had something going on with The Beach Boys or Carl Wilson at some point so Myrna worked on some Carl Wilson records as co-writer.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 July 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

Maybe I should just start a thread for that stuff.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:00 (one year ago) link

https://www.elvisinfonet.com/myrna.html

After Elvis died my husband Jerry Schilling was working with The Beach Boys and in fact we were dining with the Colonel the very night that Dennis Wilson drowned.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 July 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link

Every time I've ever mailed or sent something as "Return to Sender," I think about the chorus to Elvis's hit in a non-stop loop.

birdistheword, Monday, 25 July 2022 23:30 (one year ago) link


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