I mean, some of us might not have to pretend after all:
https://www.bfi.org.uk/sight-and-sound/features/poll-position-kaned
We invited more than a thousand people last time; the ambition is to at least double that number in 2022.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Friday, 15 July 2022 12:25 (one year ago) link
Gonna go on the record in saying 2001 will win this time around.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Friday, 15 July 2022 12:27 (one year ago) link
The callout for ballots dropped today
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
hope you will be able to get and submit one, we should have someone to represent us here
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:01 (one year ago) link
Eric, I think your and our collective posts in the last two all-time poll threads (directors, films) have been a significant contribution to the discourse about great films, more than any individual reviews I've read in highbrow publications
S&S voters should read them, and you should vote in this poll
You too Alfred
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:42 (one year ago) link
besos
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link
oh lol I think I misread you. I thought I had contributed.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:54 (one year ago) link
if you haven't already, you should lobby for a S&S ballot! I mean, you have to qualify
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 01:58 (one year ago) link
as long as you don't make your top ten all Buñuel films, I mean one is enough
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:05 (one year ago) link
2001: A Space Odyssey has ascended over time in the rankings, and was #6 on the 2012 list. It would be surprising for it to suddenly jump to #1, I don't expect it but I would love it if it did.
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link
It seems like the critics only come around to agreeing what the best films of all time are 50 or more years after they are released. I don't see any other films above or below 2001 on that S&S list that are likely to rise in prominence at this point
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:49 (one year ago) link
The window's less than 50 years, I think. 2001 came out in '68, was tied for 11th 24 years later. Mulholland Drive was 28th in 2012, 11 years after release, probably higher this time. If you really go back, L'Avventura was #2 a year after it was released. Obviously, something like that isn't going to happen anymore, but I'd say the window for ranking high today is more like 20-30 years.
― clemenza, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:57 (one year ago) link
What I'm saying is, School of Rock could be really high this time.
― clemenza, Thursday, 21 July 2022 02:58 (one year ago) link
I predict Mulholland Drive is gonna crack the top 10.
― Chris L, Thursday, 21 July 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link
air budair bud 2michael jackson thriller videodavid at the dentistfield of dreamsbarely legal #15citizen kanebringing up babyesteban buttez: the first ten postsgoonies
― ice cr?m, Sunday, 12 September 2010 02:47 bookmarkflaglink
― cajunsunday, Thursday, 21 July 2022 07:47 (one year ago) link
I predict Mulholland Drive is gonna crack the top 10
― Alba, Thursday, 21 July 2022 09:59 (one year ago) link
lol we had someone representing us before = me
and look how that turned out
― mark s, Thursday, 21 July 2022 10:02 (one year ago) link
zizek only placed second as troll but i no longer write for S&S
(this isn't actually official and is mainly a consequence of my indolence and detainment elsewhere)
― mark s, Thursday, 21 July 2022 10:03 (one year ago) link
lol we had someone representing us before = me and look how that turned out
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link
Agreed.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/1631212662/posts/pfbid02exzLDGsJPE6poE1yLMmgxwYQX3Bwh8izRiPGwDCUTrKHPRRvEyhds3jLWx6K4Tpjl/?d=nPaul Schrader denied a ballot?!
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link
they told him they would contact him when they were ready for the directors' poll
Apichatpong Weerasethakul’s 2012 votes (ten ghosts)
A Brighter Summer Day 1991 Edward YangThe Conversation 1974 Francis Ford CoppolaLa Captive 1983 Chantal AkermanEmpire 1964 Andy WarholFull Metal Jacket 1987 Stanley KubrickThe General 1926 Buster KeatonGoodbye, Dragon Inn 2003 Tsai Ming LiangRain 1929 Joris IvensSátántangó 1994 Béla TarrValentin de las Sierras 1967 Bruce Baillie
― Dan S, Friday, 5 August 2022 02:47 (one year ago) link
This site is a treasure trove and, if S&S achieve their goal of better representation among women, LGBT, and international voters, Jeanne Dielman in particular has a shot at the top 10.
http://www.phi-phenomenon.org/essay/S&S2012/
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 September 2022 18:42 (one year ago) link
it's just an old kazoo with some sparkles
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link
What a body, what a voice!
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 September 2022 19:21 (one year ago) link
Interesting appetizer ... a poll of about 120 critics/scholars (mostly from Spain): https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiODhiOWQwMzUtNTVhYy00ZWYxLTk0MDEtNDRmNTQ1YWJjODk3IiwidCI6ImFmM2E0NDRiLTcwMWItNGVkNi05YzhlLTg0ZGE5MmQ0Zjk2OSIsImMiOjl9
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Monday, 5 September 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link
When Satyajit Ray died in 1992, I think it was just before the S&S voting took place; Pather Panchali moved into the Top 10 that year. I don't think Godard has ever had a film in the Top 10; much harder, because the votes would be more diffuse, but I could see that happening this year (voting still to take place, I think). (Yes, I realize this is a trivial concern on the day of his death.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 14:58 (one year ago) link
The Queen (Frears, 2006) to displace Vertigo at #1.
― Alba, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link
Godard could certainly make gains this poll, but fwiw the bulk of ballots were due in August.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
(Tho I understand they're being distributed in waves, likely to achieve the intended gender/geographic/LGBTQ representation.)
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:34 (one year ago) link
I saw The Bicycle Thief some 30 years ago and thought it was one of the most profound films I'd ever seen. It seems to have largely disappeared from the conversation.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
I thought something was posted on one of the other threads last week that ballots had just been sent out...If August was the deadline, then no, obviously his death won't figure in. (Alba's joke crossed my mind right after I posted.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link
Has Kiarostami's reputation been serious damaged by the accusations around Ten?
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link
I don't think so
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:14 (one year ago) link
It seems to have largely disappeared from the conversation.
It's ranked #13 of all-time on THEY SHOOT PICTURES, DON'T THEY?, which compiles a whole bunch of lists til 2020. There might not be much conversation because it's been around and acclaimed for 74 years.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
Also it was 33rd in 2012, which might sound far back but ahead of anything by Rossellini.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:45 (one year ago) link
I guess I just didn't see it itt, or mentioned in other threads, or included in the Spanish list posted above.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:55 (one year ago) link
It's cachet has faded, and I'm not sure whether it's because the canon has drifted toward experimental, expressionist, and genre, or because other national cinema movements primarily based in humanism have usurped Italian neorealism.
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Tuesday, 13 September 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link
Haven't watched/listened to this yet but someone goes on for over an hour with predictions here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrHAEnzwj_w
― Bait Kush (Eric H.), Monday, 19 September 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link
Let the countdown begin...
1600 critics voted in the @SightSoundmag Greatest Films of All Time 2022 poll. "Almost double" the number surveyed in 2012, they say. That must make a difference. Either way, we'll find out when the results are revealed on 1st December.— Michael Leader (@MichaelJLeader) October 26, 2022
― Eric H., Wednesday, 26 October 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link
Today I turned in my Sight & Sound ballot for THE GREATEST FILMS OF ALL TIME pic.twitter.com/ccnUzGuvAQ— Isabel Sandoval (@Isabelvsandoval) November 3, 2022
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Monday, 7 November 2022 13:58 (one year ago) link
It's about time Tropical Malady displaced Vertigo/Kane
― jmm, Monday, 7 November 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link
From a different board and take with a gallon of salt:
Hi EveryoneI became a member of this site today and I have been following this site closely for the last 6 months.I have been eagerly awaiting the 2022 the greatest films of all time survey of sight & sound magazine for the last 10 years because I made in-depth analysis of the 2012 survey results.Yesterday, I received a message about the poll from a film writer friend from that magazine. My friend didn't say which film is the 1st movie and I didn't ask because on December 1st, we will see all the movies in the survey result.My friend only said that : there is a "very surprising change at the top",, about the 1st film.Based on this news, now I know that the 1st film is definitely not vertigo and of course not citizen kane..because my friend said there is a big surprise in the 1st film. Therefore, by reviewing the results of 2012, I guess that one of these 3 films was the champion : Tokyo Story (1953) or 2001: A Space Odyssey, maybe The Rules of the Game (1939) ..Frankly, I know that the film that won the poll was not ''vertigo and citizen kane'' and now my curiosity has increased even more...We will find out the results online on December 1st and there are only 23 days left.
I became a member of this site today and I have been following this site closely for the last 6 months.
I have been eagerly awaiting the 2022 the greatest films of all time survey of sight & sound magazine for the last 10 years because I made in-depth analysis of the 2012 survey results.
Yesterday, I received a message about the poll from a film writer friend from that magazine. My friend didn't say which film is the 1st movie and I didn't ask because on December 1st, we will see all the movies in the survey result.
My friend only said that : there is a "very surprising change at the top",, about the 1st film.
Based on this news, now I know that the 1st film is definitely not vertigo and of course not citizen kane..
because my friend said there is a big surprise in the 1st film. Therefore, by reviewing the results of 2012, I guess that one of these 3 films was the champion : Tokyo Story (1953) or 2001: A Space Odyssey, maybe The Rules of the Game (1939) ..
Frankly, I know that the film that won the poll was not ''vertigo and citizen kane'' and now my curiosity has increased even more...
We will find out the results online on December 1st and there are only 23 days left.
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link
It's Jeanne Dielman. That's the new #1
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
If that's right--and the surprising change isn't Kane and Vertigo switching back ("very surprising change at the top" doesn't preclude that)--my guess is 2001.
― clemenza, Monday, 7 November 2022 17:12 (one year ago) link
Finally Ernest Saves Christmas gets the respect it deserves
― dogdick solanke (Noodle Vague), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:14 (one year ago) link
Are there Vegas odds on this? I feel like making some money
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:16 (one year ago) link
The poster of that blind item above now claiming that the claim of a "surprise" at the top is none other than 1an Chr1st1e
― ex-McKinsey wonk who looks like a human version of a rat (Eric H.), Monday, 7 November 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link
The Jeanne Dielman prediction feels ... pretty decent in the context of the "big surprise" thing from whatever message board that is.
― intheblanks, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link
Still doesn't seem likely for a #1 but I guess I wouldn't be shocked for it to make the top 10
― intheblanks, Monday, 7 November 2022 20:23 (one year ago) link