Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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What a terrible, terrible thing. Cohen was my prophet & guru, I never disagreed with him about anything.

— Charles Polák (@CharlesPolak) July 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 09:57 (one year ago) link

I don't know about this case but Tracer Hand's post is very good.

Lots of malicious, irrelevant garbage was printed about "Labour's complaints procedure", so it's noteworthy that some of the people who printed it don't have a working complaints procedure.

the pinefox, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:12 (one year ago) link

This cunt is posting through it, so far.

Incidentally Braverman didn't "specialise in immigration law". She was a jobbing barrister who spent most of her career dealing with the licensing of pubs and clubs. https://t.co/uTbAHh9xSR

— Nick Cohen (@NickCohen4) July 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

Compare and contrast.

Have been thinking this - the ‘GC feminists’ spitting with accusations of misogynist, bully, woman-hater, inc Suzanne Moore who tried to ‘expose’ him with an ancient and innocuous DM he sent her once that made *her* look bad - he was being nice to her lol. All radio silence now. https://t.co/CjST2sbgQo

— Fisun Guner 🇵🇸🍉 (@FisunGuner) July 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 July 2022 08:14 (one year ago) link

When I worked at a large govt organisation the complaints procedure was explicit that if you raised a grievance, you would never know ,through official channels, the nature of the outcome.

The purpose of the complaints process was very clearly to protect the organisation at all times, particularly from reputational risk, and to try to ensure complaints never reached a tribunal. The process wasn’t there to serve the complainant.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 15 July 2022 08:29 (one year ago) link

I worked in the Guardian HR department, albeit over a decade ago, and they were basically just the team for recruitment, restructures and redundancies, no particular interest in staff wellbeing, combative relationship with union, etc. They were the an team at the Guardian, not an HR team with "Guardian values" whatever that means. I certainly heard lots of unpleasant stories about NC swearing, yelling at workies and low-rung staff members, turning up drunk etc, abuse presumably tolerated as salty old-school behaviour

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 15 July 2022 10:16 (one year ago) link

Typo: *They were an HR team at the Guardian, not...

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 15 July 2022 10:17 (one year ago) link

Doesn't sound like they practice what they are preaching on their pages.

Same goes with Verso, which only after a fierce battle have finally recognised their union.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 15 July 2022 10:49 (one year ago) link

Who'd've thocht it?

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 15 July 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link

the Verso situation was a bit of a shocker for me when i first read about it. the Graun, not so much.

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 11:23 (one year ago) link

I forgot the real kicker in that complaints process… The moment you engage with it, HR claimed you are bound by govt rules so that to speak of the issue in any open way was a breach of your employment and you could be dismissed!

It was basically a way of keeping people silent.

And if I were a multimillionaire I would set up an alternative charitable fund that govt employees could use to take legal action in their workplace and completely bypass the useless grievance process.

Luna Schlosser, Friday, 15 July 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

What does the Guardian recommend for keeping cool in the hot weather, I wonder?
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2022/jul/15/how-and-where-to-enjoy-open-water-swimming-safely-heatwave

fetter, Friday, 15 July 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

lol

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 15 July 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link

tbf drowning under a layer of toxic blue-green algae in sewage polluted water is much preferable to cooking food when it's 38°

calzino, Friday, 15 July 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link

Looks like they have give Nick the month off.

Nick Cohen Observer articles usually drop around 7pm... nothing as yet this week, but also still no comment from either him or Observer. Hope they're not just giving him a month's holiday as they did during metoo. deserves the full Rupert Myers @guardian @paulfwebster @nickcohen4

— italian keir starmer (@wariotifo) July 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:51 (one year ago) link

This needs to go to court.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 July 2022 10:51 (one year ago) link

I've got nothing but hero worship for the work wariotifo has put in to expose this piece of garbage.

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

michael white was with them for 45 years and were cohenesque stories about him while he was still working there- unlike cohen he even acknowledged it in a just a bit of fun sort of way - they knew about this if I did and there is going to be plenty more they know about that I don't

Left, Sunday, 17 July 2022 11:38 (one year ago) link

Today in the Observer New Review:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/17/alastair-campbell-tory-leadership-truss-rest-is-politics-podcast-interview

Extraordinary, really.

"Alastair Campbell is a writer, broadcaster and mental-health activist best known for his role as former prime minister Tony Blair’s spokesman, press secretary and director of communications and strategy, and for his bestselling eight-volume series of diaries about the Blair years. He recently teamed up with former Conservative cabinet minister Rory Stewart to launch an odd-couple current affairs podcast, The Rest Is Politics, and is filming a new reality TV show for Channel 4, Make Me Prime Minister, which he will host with Sayeeda Warsi, the former Conservative party co-chair."

the pinefox, Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:08 (one year ago) link

"odd-couple"

Left, Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:24 (one year ago) link

got to find something for the sensible tories to do, they've got no chance of front bench action in the Conservative party and the only other place they'd fit in would be in Starmer's shadow cabinet.

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:32 (one year ago) link

Stewart and Warsi are both to the left of Campbell?

Maybe an odd couple in that sense.

the pinefox, Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link

Campbell is the only one who doesn't speak Urdu.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

He's from Burnley, he speaks 'ow do.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

I've worked in Burnley before and never met anyone who speaks with a Campbell accent.

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link

Turns out he's actually from Yorkshire!

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

ffs!

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link

I know someone whose wife is doing some architecture work for him. His partner is very nice. That's all the gossip I've got.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 July 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link

ffs!

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

My friend Esther is very active in Holborn and St Pancras CLP and the Campbell/Millar house has been the site of a few parties. Their guest loo is wallpapered in tabloid splashes about AC.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Sunday, 17 July 2022 14:24 (one year ago) link

fws!

Mark G, Sunday, 17 July 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

looking forward to Make Me A War Criminal

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 17 July 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

lock the doors

Important update on the Guardian heatwave liveblog by @rachela_hall. https://t.co/p22P5Kj8ve pic.twitter.com/nCklGA1Lnq

— Jim Waterson (@jimwaterson) July 18, 2022

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 18 July 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link

cunt writes for cunts about cunts, delighting cunts

‘Conservatives are so irredeemably split they removed Boris Johnson only to find they could not unite behind a replacement…’

✍️ Nick Cohenhttps://t.co/OdgRgS2iBq

— The Spectator (@spectator) July 18, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

really trying his damndest to carry on calmly posting as he usually does after his position should be untenable at this fucking point.

calzino, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:14 (one year ago) link

(xp) Stunning insights from the vile sex pest there.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:27 (one year ago) link

great to see the media establishment straining every sinew to maintain omerta around a serial harasser and bully who doesn't even know how to spell straitjacket

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

On Novara but I'll put it here. They are expanding.

https://pressgazette.co.uk/novara-media-donors/

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 July 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/25/tim-westwood-faced-bullying-allegation-inside-bbc-while-radio-1-dj

It's really bad when a large media organisation suppresses serious whistleblowing accusations. Now, let's have a look and see who's in this week's opinion pages...

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Monday, 25 July 2022 14:25 (one year ago) link

This is what one Guardian comms ed is getting up to on twitter:

If this isn't exaggerating and weaponising antisemitism against the left, I don't know what is.

Unsurprisingly, @SiamGoorwich works for the Guardian. This is standard practice at that right-wing-pretending-to-be-left-wing rag. pic.twitter.com/ep1MBasv83

— Frank Owen's Legendary Paintbrush 🟨🟥🥀🇵🇸🇾🇪 (@WarmongerHodges) July 25, 2022

glumdalclitch, Monday, 25 July 2022 14:40 (one year ago) link

After tweeting about Nick Cohen and Guardian News and Media (GNM’s) attempts to discourage complaints from W1 and W2, I received a number of messages from other women wanting to talk about how life is at GNM. 🧵

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) July 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 28 July 2022 20:19 (one year ago) link

This was funny.

1/ If silly people could just stop writing silly things about things they've only done confirmation bias google searches on, the rest of us would have a lot more time to watch Stranger Things.

Alas.

Let's go paragraph by paragraph. pic.twitter.com/yBBMDMRgfL

— Dmitry Grozoubinski (@DmitryOpines) July 29, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 July 2022 13:57 (one year ago) link

Jenkins is never afraid to pie himself in the face

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

Really good thing about twitter is how there is a rebuttal to any single piece of nonsense published on the day.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 July 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

lol, that was a very thorough rinsing. If they had a reputation to protect they'd nuke the article.

calzino, Friday, 29 July 2022 16:36 (one year ago) link

I found it interesting that just after the invasion of Ukraine the newspaper published several pieces by Simon Jenkins about the war - along the lines of "NATO's aggression has backfired / we must lift sanctions on Russia" - and then he seemed to lose interest in the topic. I remember wondering if the editor had told him to knock it off. Or if the editor was sick of him writing essentially the same piece over and over again.

For example all but two of his columns from March were about the war, and one of the other stories was about the uselessness of sanctions (albeit against Iran):
https://www.theguardian.com/profile/simonjenkins?page=2

But in April he only wrote two stories on the topic, and none at all in May, two in June, one in July. And most of them are really about domestic politics, only tangentially Ukraine.

When I saw "he wrote" I don't know how the editorial process works with opinion columnists in a national newspaper. Perhaps he wrote lots of pieces that were rejected, or perhaps the editor gave him a list of topics to cover. I just don't know. But it seems odd that with the war raging he decided not to cover it.

Ashley Pomeroy, Friday, 29 July 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

jenkins has been staunchly anti-interventionist for a long time which has made him right by default on foreign policy a lot of the time and i used to rate him for that but it’s become increasingly clear that he very often just doesn’t know wtf he’s talking about

Tracer Hand, Friday, 29 July 2022 21:24 (one year ago) link

Thank you @pressgazette for breaking an industry silence on this and for including some points from me. It's good to talk as BT used to say. https://t.co/oMiP3Fs3Fa

— lucy siegle (@lucysiegle) August 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 10:35 (one year ago) link

bravo to GMG for such a fast response

calzino, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

hey it's not like there's over a decade of reports on this scumbag's behaviour

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 11:10 (one year ago) link


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