Duran Duran: Classic or Dud?

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"911 is a Joke"
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A COVER

It is...unfortunately. Its probably the worst cover ever made.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:14 (twenty years ago) link

Custos, haven't you heard the rest of the Thank You album? It definitely proves that that is not the worst cover ever made.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

Nope. Only heard an mp3 of "911"...it convinced me to NOT BOTHER looking for the album.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:30 (twenty years ago) link

they're very cute boys and lovely in interviews, but I hate the overwhelming majority of songs I've heard of theirs. A classic band that makes dud albums. Songs I know I like by them: "Planet Earth," "Rio," "Hungry Like The Wolf," "Come Undone," "White Lines"

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:21 (twenty years ago) link

Nope. Only heard an mp3 of "911"...it convinced me to NOT BOTHER looking for the album.

Its the only album where I felt hurt and violated from having to heard.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:24 (twenty years ago) link

I never heard anything off it but the version of "White Lines," and that was BOSS.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:27 (twenty years ago) link

I was once mocked for following the Night Version of Planet Earth with Big Black's Racer-X on a mix tape.

Favorite DD album tracks: I know I've said elsewhere that Rio is great for it's non-singles, so search all of those.

Has anyone picked up the Singles 81-85 box, with replica sleeves of all the original artwork? It's a thing of immense beauty.

Andy K (Andy K), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link

I think I will, even though I just bought the remastered GH last month. Fucking bastards. I want to be Duran Duran even more than I want to be Takeshi Kaneshiro.

Millar (Millar), Friday, 20 June 2003 19:53 (twenty years ago) link

Whoa. That's actually incredible.

Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:02 (twenty years ago) link

I want the box set, but it's so expensive! I wish they'd release a b-sides CD, one single one with all the b-sides they've performed. That would make me very happy, but seeing as though the fan base has clamored for this for over ten years I'm not going to hold my breath.

It's a shame that people are completely ignoring Thank You. For one, yes, the cover of "White Lines" is lovely. It's a great crowd-pleaser at concerts! Secondly, I think the cover of "Watching the Detectives" is at least as good as the original (i.e. the Elvis Costello version). Third, I love what the band did with "The Chauffeur" with their original, "Drive By". Fourth, I do quite like the cover of "Thank You" and "Crystal Ship", because with those songs you can tell how into classic rock Simon really was and still is, going at least as far back as his first interviews (where he mentions how much he loves Led Zeppelin). Finally, I do like the cover of "Lay Lady Lay". Sure, the rest may be a bit confounding, but it's certainly unexpected and that is, from my perspective, quite good.

Kate, you mentioned the Lovely Blue Planet of There before -- I'm addicted to that site! I love reading horribly bad fan fiction, and you can't get much cringingly worse than the slashfic. Sometimes, though, some of the regular fanfic is quite nice. You know the Nikkolys series? I like that. Have you written fanfic before? If so, what are some of the ones I might know?

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link

I bought the Singles box yesterday used for $35. It's on Amazon.com for US customers for $37, no tax and free shipping...

It's fantastic! I might have to eat it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 June 2003 21:52 (twenty years ago) link

It's fantastic! I might have to eat it!

That is the greatest album review in the history of mankind, what the fuck? I have literally sat here for 10 minutes laughing at this, and not just because I'm drunk, honestly.

Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:23 (twenty years ago) link

This is the thread where I proclaim by undying love for "Hold Back The Rain" - not just my fave Duran song, but one of my fave songs ever.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:37 (twenty years ago) link

(the one on the original US vinyl release, please)

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 21 June 2003 05:38 (twenty years ago) link

Again, I second Innocent Dreamer regarding Thank You - Watching The Detectives is great (I'm missing the credit part of the booklet so thanks for clearing up who did the original!), as is The Crystal Ship and Drive By is wonderful. I do not really like White Lines however, and I Wanna Take You Higher is awful.

On B-sides: the one B-side of theirs everyone should hear is Secret Oktober, found on Union Of The Snake and much better than anything on Seven And The Ragged Tiger.

Tijn, Saturday, 21 June 2003 07:43 (twenty years ago) link

"Thank you", Tijn! ;) Now all you need to do is get into Medazzaland! *giggle*

*spins around, falls to floor*

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 22 June 2003 01:31 (twenty years ago) link

Dee - I haven't actually written anything for There, but several of my friends have - I think they write as Alizarine and the Paperbag Princess? (But their pennames may change from site to site.) I used to host a fan fict site that specialised in *good* slash and stuff called Entertain Me! but it got shut down cause I couldn't pay the bills. :-(

kate (kate), Monday, 23 June 2003 07:16 (twenty years ago) link

So classic it hurts.

Zora (Zora), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link

Duran Duran reaffirms women might have better taste then men in general. If you're gonna be into mindless prog frippery, the makers might as well be cute.

God, if you're listening, I want to look like Simon LeBon for just one day, please, please, please...

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:12 (twenty years ago) link

scratch that. John Taylor. And scratch that John Taylor while you're at it.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link

ow!

John Taylor (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 23 June 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link

Simon le Bon as he looks NOW?! No thanks!

Only real spunk in Duranduran lookslwise was Roger Taylor.

John Taylor was the first male heartthrob of every lesbian I know. Work that out for yourself.

russ t, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

omigodomigodomigodomigodomigodomigod... people here like Duran Duran! All the years I spent being ridiculed and abused because people just didn't GET IT. God. I was at the music exchange in notting hell on Saturday and could not believe how much the Duran stuff was going for... although it's cheaper than Record Runner, that's for sure. And then I got home with my long-lost love, "To the Shore," since the first album has been standardised to the American version, and I play it for Mr Snide Indie Guy and he just doesn't GET IT.

In defense of Thank You, however, it should be noted that Elvis Costell and Lou Reed both love Duran's cover versions. I think it the artist likes your cover, then everyone else can fuck off.

Oh, and between Arcadia and Power Station, I vote Arcadia. It was Nick Rhodes in the "Election Day" video that propelled my 12-year-old-self to the chemist's for black hair dye for the very first time. But, erm, in terms of musical purity, Power Station wins. Bernard Edwards making JT play until his fingers bleed beats backing vocals from Sting and Grace Jones any day.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:15 (twenty years ago) link

Cat, do you HAVE the proper version of the first album?

GIMME GIMME GIMMEEEEE!!!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:19 (twenty years ago) link

I had it on cassette, but when I switched formats the first album has British artwork with the U.S. tracklisting. ARGH!
*But* I just got the U.S. single where they released "To the Shore" as a B-side, so I can copy the whole album and plunk TTS in where Yo Bad Azizi is, and that will make it propa.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

What I really want is the *original* mix of Planet Earth that was on the *original* (import?) version of the first album. Cause not only was the sequence difference (Girls On Film first? WTF? just destroy the flow of that album why dontcha?) and Yo Bad Azizi not belonging in there AT ALL stylisticly or otherwise, but they butchered the beginning of Planet Earth and cut the long space-noises beginning off of it! It's all about Nick Rhodes' spacenoises!

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:33 (twenty years ago) link

Catty...

NOTHING beats Grace Jones adding vocals to anything, surely?

russ t, Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link

Kate, have you heard Strange Behaviour? MMM, Nick Rhodes Spacy Noises deluxe....

Russ T... sorry. I think Bernard Edwards and his funkaliciousness throughout the Power Station LP (and his profound influence on JT) must top Grace Jones on "Election Day."

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Yet another thing to be fuxored off about cockfarmers wot don't return my emails any more. Oh well, they probably made the whole Nick Rhodes story up anyway. :-(

kate (kate), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:47 (twenty years ago) link

I have ordered that there box set. I could not resist.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

That box set is lovely. I have enjoyed it v. much since I got it. Particularly Late Bar. La la la late baaaaar, la la la la la la....

The reproductions look a little dodgy, but maybe that's just me since I work with graphic design all day? Besides, it's not like Assorted iMaGeS could have sent over their .pdfs, now, is it?

Assorted iMaGeS. The true believers know.

Catty (Catty), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link

Malcolm Garrett vs. Peter Saville FITE (me, I couldn't choose).

The two of them vs. the Designers Republic = utterly impossible to determine. Argh...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

in theory i hated them: hated new romantics, hated the videos, hated all that 80's glamourpuss aspiration and thatcherish air - so i never heard much apart from the singles

in practice i taped careless memories, save a prayer, the chauffeur, & a track called 'whispers' (which i cannot recall the sound of at the moment)

i also like ordinary world, view to a kill & skin trade and wish i had them too

dis-association of the sound from everything else about them is key - a purer/simpler/better way of listening, or a thinner/ fragmented/simpleton way.....
ilm may help me decide one day

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link

Kate, I've got the original version of the first album with the "space noise enhanced" version of "Planet Earth". It's in the pile of stuff to be digitized.

Chris Barrus (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 24 June 2003 17:41 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
...and my copy of that singles box set finally arrived today. Oh dear heavens does this look brilliant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 July 2003 02:59 (twenty years ago) link

SEARCH: "Faith in the Colour", the B-Side to "Is There Something I Should Know?"

That singles box is awesome.

Evan (Evan), Saturday, 12 July 2003 13:43 (twenty years ago) link

Evan, "Faith in this Colour" is like one of my top five favorite songs of all time. I adore adore adore ADORE it to bloody pieces. If I could find the MP3 of the slow version of said song, the one that chugs along at half the pace of the original, I would die and go to MP3 heaven.

Also on the b-side search: The full, five-minute version of Arcadia's "Rose Arcana". I sigh a million happy sighs when I listen to that lush arrangement. Yum.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 13 July 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

AND NOW I'M LISTENING TO SIMON LEBON'S "GREY LADY OF THE SEA"!!!!!! MP3, BABY!!!!!!!

This is a very happy day in Deannaville.

Innocent Dreamer (Dee the Lurker), Sunday, 13 July 2003 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Taking a quick peek in and reviving this thread only to post something I'd previously stated back in March of 2000, after being inspired by a thread off ILE to reread old e-mail messages. This would be in regards to the album I harp on about so frequently, Medazzaland.

*quietly hopes no one recognizes this bit*

"Medazzaland" is my very favorite album. The title track thrills me to the bone as I'm madly obsessed with Nick Rhodes. "Big Bang Generation" is a rollicking good-time track. "Electric Barbarella" is a great song with a horrible video (IMO). "Out of My Mind"...well, it's a beautiful track to say the least...the righteous heir to the "Save a Prayer" throne if the universe was fair. "WDYTYA?"...well, I only *quote* from it in my sig! "Silva Halo"...I must be one of a few people who love this track. "Be My Icon" is a thrillingly cheeky track. "So Long Suicide" is the ultimate highlight for me...I think it's incredibly awesome. "Buried in the Sand" is sweetly tragic in its plaintiveness. "Undergoing Treatment" is simply brilliant, another exceptionally cheeky track. I *think* I named every track on the album but if not...well, I love them all!

(Oh yeah, and "WDYTYA?" = "Who Do You Think You Are?" Just FYI.)

Just wanted to post that up so that you can see, through something I wrote over three years ago, why Medazzaland remains my favorite album of theirs.

p.s.: Kate, if you're reading this, I know who you're talking about re: Alizarine!! Isn't she the woman who theorized that Nick came from the same lovely little planet David Bowie comes from? If that's the case, OMG, her website is totally hilarious! And I do remember Entertain Me! You guys had the BEST slashfic around. I miss that place, in fact.

*drops off to sleepland*

Legendary Nothingness (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 06:03 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
CD80 'portable' Duran Duran go!

Planet Earth
Late Bar
Careless Memories
Girls On Film
My Own Way
Hungry Like The Wolf
Save A Prayer
Rio
Hold Back The Rain
The Chauffeur
Is There Something I Should Know?
Union Of The Snake
New Moon On Monday
The Reflex
Wild Boys
A View To A Kill
Notorious
Come Undone
Ordinary World

(79:30, chronological AFAIK)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:59 (twenty years ago) link

For a while during the 80s, I considered them dud.

Today, classic! Without any shadow of doubt!

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

ONE mention of "Electric Barbarella"? ELECTRIC BARBARELLA!

This song alone makes Duran Duran in the 90's equal to their 80's classic period.

sucka (sucka), Thursday, 13 November 2003 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

Championing Duran Duran because of "Electric Barbarella" is like championing Todd Rundgren because of the "Acapella" album :-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

Geir that was kinda funny!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

Hon, here is a list of some songs Duran Duran recorded in the '90s that I absolutely adored:

From Liberty (1990):
"First Impression"
"Liberty"
"My Antarctica"
"Serious"
"Venice Drowning"

From The Wedding Album (1993):
"Too Much Information"
"Ordinary World"
"Love Voodoo"
"Come Undone"
"Breath After Breath"
"None Of The Above"
"Sin Of The City"

From Thank You (1995):
"Drive By"
"Watching The Detectives"
"Perfect Day"

From Medazzaland (1997):
"Medazzaland"
"Big Bang Generation"
"Electric Barbarella"
"Out Of My Mind"
"Who Do You Think You Are?"
"Silva Halo"
"Be My Icon"
"Buried In The Sand"
"Michael (You've Got A Lot To Answer For)"
"Midnight Sun"
"So Long Suicide"
"Undergoing Treatment"

(Of course I would have to name every single one of the songs on that album -- that's my favorite album of all time!)

I would also name songs off Pop Trash, but that's going into a different decade altogether. Though I do adore it, not as much as Medazzaland and sometimes not as much as The Wedding Album, but I do certainly think it's an awesome album overall. :)

Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

make a CD80 of latter day tracks and post it! Then I will burn it and listen as I drive around!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 14 November 2003 00:07 (twenty years ago) link

Does Night Version just mean extended version?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 November 2003 09:07 (twenty years ago) link

make a CD80 of latter day tracks and post it! Then I will burn it and listen as I drive around!

Ooh, I'll have to work on it tonight. Just getting to narrowing it down to that length... wow. I might actually want to do that myself. :) (The burning, that is.)

Does Night Version just mean extended version?

Well, "Night Version" is essentially a catch-all term that refers to certain extended versions of songs the band recorded back in the early '80s (i.e., pre-7&TRT), but in terms of Rio tracks that are labeled "Night Version", it's more often referring to tracks remixed by David Kershenbaum. For example, the "Night Version" of "Hungry Like the Wolf" is hardly any longer than the "regular" version of "HLTW", but it sounds a bit differently because of the David Kershenbaum touch. Any American who bought the Rio album on vinyl back when Rio started becoming popular Stateside, or cassette back when Rio was originally released in the U.S., would be most familiar with the "Night Version" of a sizeable chunk of the songs therein. The original vinyl release and the most recent cassette release of Rio would have the original mixes of all the songs, same as the regular worldwide CD version of said album and the regular UK vinyl/cassette versions.

Uh, have I confused you?

Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 14 November 2003 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yes, and I have to highly recommend the b-sides Duran Duran recorded back ca. The Wedding Album. They are fantastic songs in and of themselves and further proof that a lot of the band's genius lies within their b-sides. The songs?

"Fallen Angel"/"Falling Angel"
(They're essentially the same song, though "Falling Angel", which is found on the Obsession and Corruption release, has a different, rougher intro than "Fallen Angel". This song, though, no matter what the version, is gorgeous and lovely.)

"Time For Temptation"
(Great, catchy song, though once again the version found on Obsession and Corruption is a bit rougher than the version found on the Japanese version of TWA.)

"Stop Dead"
(Now there's only one version of this song! Still, great and catchy and very danceable. Anytime you see anything in the Duranternet referring to the phrase "Yo Latin mama, check out your hombre," you can now know that it comes from this particular song.)

Pancakes For Breakfast! (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 14 November 2003 14:15 (twenty years ago) link

Thank you, Pancakes, for Night Version info. No, you didn't confuse me, but the Rio CD's 'enhanced' discography certainly did.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 November 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link


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