CocoRosie member goes to "Kill Whitey" Ironic dance parties and gets called out by brainwashed.com as racist

nitsuh do you actually know anyone who listens to rap music?

(I was actually wanting to add on the way to work something kinda about that -- about how even among hip-hop's black audience, I'd venture that like less than 5% are actually living the lives described in some of the music, and less than 25% are even much brushing up on it. What's weird, though, is that the bulk of the hip-hop white people know is primarily about partying and women and making money, an experience that's in no way limited to blackness or the "inner city." White people get hot in here and take off all their clothes, too.)

-- nabisco (--...), November 7th, 2005.

TMI dude

Cocorosie violates a sort of corollary, like "don't be retarded unless it works." White girls dropping the n-bomb isn't always a bad thing but the way they do it is soooo clunky it really kills the song which is actually a fairly good song. (More here if you care.)

I mean nobody's calling Kanye a wigger or accusing him of "acting black"! That's kinda my point here, that neurotic-about-hip-hop white people make it this huge connection about race, even when they know (check whatever's posts) that it's about a cultural experience or whatever (as described by "real"). And for the record I find it just as annoying when black people construct the same linked notions of "real" and "blackness," cause it does the same vaguely dangerous stuff.

100% right, Ethan, except I think the difference that's messing with people is that if you're like a black kid in Indiana listening to hip-hop you still have some kind of imaginary "in" to identify with the stuff that white people somehow build themselves up into lacking. And in both cases that's just weirdo race-linking stuff, more or less.

Meanwhile, three posts in this thread have used the word "retarded" with far less artistic motive.

Alternatively, they'll take the hint, become even more hipsterishly abrasive and sell lots of records to the skull-attired coke-snorting nihilists who think that giving a fuck about issues is gay.

Wow, whatever - your life story could be mine.

Except for the whole 'getting a job and not being discriminated for my ethnicity' part.

But I really, truly identify, man.

was it like how it's described in the article?

its kinda like that ny times article a few years ago about the trucker hat, where the nytimes lady interviewed some drunk hipster at the pussycat lounge and he told her that there's a code to the trucker hat. if you wear it cocked to the left, youre from the east village. to the right, williamsburg. up and left, means youre a gay man from chelsea. down and right means west village, etc. then they printed that in the ny times sunday style section and we all had an enormous laugh.

anyways, the party is pretty fun. jeremy (mr. pumpsta) is kinda insane though.

youre joking, right?

and why is this getting more attention when you can go to ANY club in america and you'll find white people grinding or doing the toosie roll or whatever?

there honestly isn't anything different about this party than most any other party ive ever been to.

i never saw a bucket of fried chicken either.

also, i do not have a trust fund.

phil-two, i kinda maybe believe you that this wasn't as bad as portrayed in the article, but i dunno there's some problematic stuff going on there that's not just our imaginations, i'd bet.