Pearl Jam - C or D?

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It's the first of the two Oakland gigs without Cameron.

MaresNest, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:05 (one year ago) link

Oh, I was thrown off for a second. Like, Cameron is still out, is he OK? But now I understand.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:16 (one year ago) link

oh well then i dont need to watch BECUZ I WUZ THERE BABY :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 July 2022 19:27 (one year ago) link

The channel does a really nice job actually, they locate multiple filmers, edit and sync them up to soundboard recordings, they're really watchable.

MaresNest, Friday, 8 July 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwOcGqP9xRI

MaresNest, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:32 (one year ago) link

Oakland second night^

MaresNest, Monday, 5 September 2022 20:33 (one year ago) link

oh nice, this is the show I was at.

akm, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link

one year passes...

The show tonight was great, honestly one of the best shows I've seen in a long time, totally celebratory, encored with "Surrender."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:59 (seven months ago) link

i just saw that on the setlist they posted!
lucky dog

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 05:10 (seven months ago) link

Lots of Eddie all over the soundtrack to the Bear, I've noticed, and great use of Animal in the final (or maybe penultimate) episode.

honey badger drinks when he wants (stevie), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 08:05 (seven months ago) link

lol he talked about The Bear a bunch on stage. Vedder called it the best use of Pearl Jam in any show or movie he's seen. He also did a solo "Throw Your Arms Around Me," which was also in The Bear.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 12:15 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6diDiMVEzbI

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 13:43 (seven months ago) link

FWIW, I was weighing whether to get the "official bootleg" of the closing show of their 2000 world tour - from what I can tell, it's the closest thing to a consensus pick for their greatest concert recording ever - and it turns out someone videotaped most of the show and synced it up to the audio of said CD:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aSY-CBVdpc

Also impressed by how dynamic the audio sounds - even though their studio releases were heavily compressed by that time, it seems like the CD's for the 2000 world tour shows were not subjected to the same brickwalling and sound all the better for it.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:20 (seven months ago) link

Weird. I guess Pearl Jam is okay with watching that video on YouTube but not okay with having it embedded elsewhere?

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:21 (seven months ago) link

Yell-no Webembedder

Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:25 (seven months ago) link

No Code (Specifically, <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aSY-CBVdpc; title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:28 (seven months ago) link

(sorry, that joke didn't quite land, lol)

Sir Mick explained: (morrisp), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:28 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWdbadgCJE

MaresNest, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 10:52 (seven months ago) link

I really love when they cover Crown Of Thorns. The only MLB song I've ever really been able to tolerate it, and Eddie makes it a thing of substance and wonder.

Lumpy pillows, kiss my ass. Put that in your book (stevie), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 11:16 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

New single “Dark matter” out today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Fx8LprPMIU

Album comes out April 19

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 05:52 (two months ago) link

single is kinda mid imo?

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 05:53 (two months ago) link

yeah, if it were any other band I wouldn't be listening all the way through

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 11:47 (two months ago) link

Hopefully the album is a bit more… memorable, I guess

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 12:04 (two months ago) link

I was hopeful when it first started, I dug the energy, but yeah pretty blah and forgettable, nice guitar solo though. I could see it developing into a ripper on stage.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:16 (two months ago) link

Wouldn't be the first time a blah PJ studio song gained new life in their live shows.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 15:17 (two months ago) link

exactly. and from memory/history the first single is often, sometimes, a song i like less than the album tracks anyway

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:00 (two months ago) link

Yeah, they have a really weird track record with lead singles, still definitely excited for the album.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 16:00 (two months ago) link

i've been jamming Vitalogy in the car lately, giving the kid a primer on some crucial albums. it still sounds amazing, and it swings hard on occasion (Not For You locks into a sick groove, for example.) sometimes i'll hear these guys or Soundgarden and i just really miss this type of apex predator rock music, just absolutely professional on all fronts, and seemingly effortless in execution. my kid loves all of it, i've played him a few albums from this era and he'll be in the back seat nodding along happily. when i try to find newer bands along these lines, it's definitely more of a deep search and often a fruitless one.

omar little, Tuesday, 13 February 2024 18:27 (two months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I thought "Dark Matter" was pretty fucking good.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 19:02 (two months ago) link

how bout dem ticket prices tho

DT, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 02:28 (one month ago) link

Uh, yeah, was thinking about seeing them again this tour but, uh, no. Not quite the same band that fought to keep ticket prices low are they?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 02:50 (one month ago) link

we bought tix for the Sacramento show and yeah holy fuck pass the smelling salts
like there was a moment where we almost decided not to go bcz of the cost

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 02:53 (one month ago) link

Fun semi-humblebrag fact: Vedder was hanging at my friend's house here last week.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:31 (one month ago) link

nice!!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:41 (one month ago) link

Just listening to Dark Matter now. Reaffirms my belief that the only good PJ songs since Binaural are the uptempo rockers and anything midtempo/shuffly/swingy/ballady goes in one ear and out the other.

ⓓⓡ (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 03:48 (one month ago) link

goddamn, $175 for nosebleeds in Sacramento

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 04:32 (one month ago) link

I WILL NOT BE TAKING QUESTIONS
or leaving my home for a year

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 05:01 (one month ago) link

why are the tix so expensive? i just don't get it.

also richard ashcroft is supporting in the UK, ugh (tho they are playing the Spurs stadium which is 10 minutes' walk from me)

impostor syndrome to the (expletive) max (stevie), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 09:10 (one month ago) link

Tickets everywhere for everything are fucking expensive.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 13:10 (one month ago) link

I got a ticket to see Pearl Jam in Dublin this summer. 127 euro, which I've been told is cheap (nowadays maybe). It's the most I've ever spent on a concert ticket

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 14:17 (one month ago) link

basically the only tix that are affordable anymore are for underground metal shows, and even these are at prices that woulda made people wince like 20 years ago

"$30 for a death metal show?!!!"

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:01 (one month ago) link

I considered going to a jazz show that's happening tonight (Joshua Redman came to Montana!) but tickets were $60. Also it would mean being in a crowded room full of strangers and I'm still not doing that. I haven't been to a live show since February 2020.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:14 (one month ago) link

seems like a pretty big difference between pearl jam gouging fans and working independent bands trying to survive in an era when playing shows is literally the only way to make any money

na (NA), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 16:34 (one month ago) link

otm, yes, ticket prices are up but let's not conflate the two.

I'm somewhat heartened to see Pearl Jam seems to be getting some pretty significant blowback from fans over these prices, if reddit and other forums are anything to go by.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:20 (one month ago) link

Old enough to remember this lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR8Uook5Cq0

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:52 (one month ago) link

To be clear, there are so many factors right now that I don't think the ticket prices in 2024 are 100% Pearl Jam's fault. It's just jarring to see the costs given how much work they put into fighting the good fight back when.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 17:57 (one month ago) link

Even Springsteen finally and unapologetically hiked ticket prices. But don't discount (no pun intended) the impact of scalpers and bots and secondary.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:08 (one month ago) link

I also just generally don't think these kind of ticket prices are sustainable. I kind of understand the first major tour for big artists/bands since the pandemic, but I just don't see how it's going to hold up at this level long term when every major touring act is $150+ just to get in the door.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:12 (one month ago) link

xxxxpost was anybody actually comparing the two? nobody I saw actually suggested independent bands were guilty of anything or even that the causality was the same.

The big ticket tours are now astronomically priced to where the average fan can't attend without putting it on a credit card or making monthly payments on it, and that's if they can even get through the flawed Ticketmaster queues. that's the biggest problem and the byproduct of an essential monopoly in the industry that has been allowed to continue unchecked, combined with Ticketmaster intentionally flipping fans the bird after their huge settlement by deliberately making the fees almost half the ticket cost.

my point about underground metal shows is they're affordable in that the average person can go to them, which is awesome, but that even some of these have ballooned in recent years, to where someone who went to 3 a month might be going to 1 a month now. that isn't the band's fault, that's just garden variety inflation, and not the industry-level dickery or outright gouging that some bands are complicit in.

CEO Greedwagon (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 February 2024 18:13 (one month ago) link


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