like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

they could maybe still win a GE with a low turnout from their own so called voter base if the Tories remain to be unpopular but it might be close and require another ghastly coalition govt with the LibDems. Ugh! too depressing to think about.

🤔🤔🤔

Looks like the favour was called in as I had suspected with Keir Starmer being “cleared” by Durham police https://t.co/UIYBzCmgNT

— Rhys (@RhysForBear) July 8, 2022

It won't matter who wins. No party have the policies for the problems we are going to face.

Is there any party willing to rejoin the EU?

The SNP!

the lib dems too, probably, though they have finally learned to shut up about it. all academic though as they will never be in power.

Could the Labour Party try to expand its base now that the Conservative Party is in disarray? Would that help it win the next election?

The thing that will win an election in current circs is really due to tories staying home and tories have the angry pensioners who always vote demographic locked down - although Brexit has now happened and they don’t really have a big issue like that to campaign on.

Sorry I just reiterated NV’s post very unhelpfully there. Anyway, then and now:

Then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o0D0GEOR7I

The 2019 campaign video features people from all backgrounds, the Grenfell Tower marchers, WASPI women (women who lost out on state pensions due to government reforms), cities and towns, old and young etc. Unions, the traditional backers of the party are prominently featured. As with the manifesto that year: life doesn’t have to be this shit, let us help you.

What are they doing now? Attacking deporting people to Rwanda on the basis of it being too expensive rather than it being a gross, idk, violation of decency? Briefing against their own voters when they nearly lost a formerly safe seat due to voters due to the party giving them nothing on issues important to them? Doing appearances at Pride while this goes unaddressed?

Lib Dems. That makes sense. Yay for the SNP.

Shouldn't economic issues matter more to Labour than nationalist ones?

Perhaps liberal democracy and socialism have different meanings now or the context is different but parts of what came before remain.

Labour has votes it doesn't want to lose because of the risk; it takes a leap of faith(?).

Separate question: I wonder about the placement of gender issues and gender identification in different national/ethnic/cultural contexts. I sometimes look for clues in literature or fiction about tolerance and openness. To me the UK seems to be a case where there is tolerance but not openness.

At the risk of upsetting some thread followers, rejoining in the EU isn't a priority for any serious party and it wouldn't solve any of the serious economic issues facing people in the UK anyway

What would? Does it have more to do with the distribution of wealth within the UK?

V much so imo and a “labour” party not concerned with that is worthless

There are definitely moves to engage with the EU on trade and movement of people that would be good but my feeling is wholesale membership commits a country now to pursuing a broadly neoliberal economics that won't solve a lot of the current crises in the UK

I'm not saying that means Brexit was a smart move - but rejoining just shouldn't matter for people on the left in the short to medium term

brexit is a disaster for a number of reasons (not least giving a large mandate for the worst ppl in the world to further erode the rights of workers) but also it’s not like being part of a neoliberal trading bloc was really doing much for immiserated ppl either xp

Lib Dems. That makes sense. Yay for the SNP.

Shouldn't economic issues matter more to Labour than nationalist ones?

Perhaps liberal democracy and socialism have different meanings now or the context is different but parts of what came before remain.

Labour has votes it doesn't want to lose because of the risk; it takes a leap of faith(?).

Even Corbyn’s commendable record of campaigning against the geopolitical grain, such as for dispossessed Tamils, Chagossians and Palestinians, came to be seen as evidence that he didn’t know which side he was supposed to be on. A symbolic moment of the campaign was the first leaders’ debate, when Corbyn highlighted the impact that the climate crisis would have on the poorest people in the world and a section of the audience responded with groans and someone shouted, “Here we go again!”

When people talk about having paid into the system all their lives, as I heard repeatedly at the doorstep, they’re not just talking about national insurance payments and the benefits they’re entitled to.

They’re talking about loyalty to a state they expected to be their exclusive patron – and they saw a Labour leader who seemed to invite the whole world to his allotment, offering homemade jam to all, no matter which flags their ancestors spilt their blood for.
With such voters, retired or coming towards the end of their careers, Corbyn’s collectivist language of what we could build together left them sceptical and uncomprehending. It seemed more zero sum to them, where one person’s gain must be another’s loss. A small hoard has been salvaged from the UK’s long post-imperial decline, and only those whose fealty is proven can claim their share.

^^^ as bad as the “unpatriotic” attacks on this stuff were the detestable aggro-centrists — what we sometimes call melts — who were a bit more circumspect about going full gammon but would sneer at any display of solidarity like this as “student politics”, not something grownups care about in the zero-sum game of caring about things where EU face paint must take precedence

Sunak is standing with a video whose script seems to follow from his letter of resignation. Time for austerity, forever.

readyforrishi.com registered on 23/12/2022

https://who.is/whois/readyforrishi.com

I mean 23/12/2011 obvs

no I dont

too hot today

23/12/2021

there we go

This is cool, finally something for the Labour Party to define it's own values against

oh god

The PM has appointed a deputy leader of the House of Commons - congratulations @PeterBoneUK pic.twitter.com/KLxMnJkZOa

— PARLY (@PARLYapp) July 8, 2022

Rishi Sunak launches his campaign website, the domain of which was registered in December 2021 pic.twitter.com/xcv8JQ1xQC

— insane moments in british politics (@PoliticsMoments) July 8, 2022

"GoDaddy.com" lols. based on not much at all I don't think this overambitious little broomstick is going to win it. Penny Mordaunt is a royal navy reservist, she could probably pick him up with one hand and fling him over a wall. And she seems to have much broader appeal :p

Take this with a pinch of, but Nadine etc...

I hope they do make him leader, he's an abject lightweight (in more ways than one) with multiple skeletons waiting to dance out of his closet.

suspect a decent chunk of the tory membership is just not going to vote for a non-white person to be leader, whatever they say in opinion polls

There's a reason Ben Wallace is leading on ConHome, and the reason isn't Ben Wallace

But it'll depend on who gets into the final two.

Wallace and Scromit

Can’t wait to find out who a few thousand mummified nazi freaks think should rule us

Just read a newspaper for that

Laura K, with great solemnity: I’m hearing the bloodied entrails in conservative hq have produced a result…the winner’s about to emerge…oh it’s the reanimated corpse of Enoch Powell! I don’t fancy Labour’s chances against that!

Daily Mail editorial the next day begins with “Is the new Tory leader too WOKE for today’s world?”

lol

I’m out of touch, I thought lk had fucked off by now

Oh she has, but like the spectator garden parties she is eternal

The @BBCPolitics Time Lords had plenty to talk about at @TheSpectator Summer Party last night. All agree the new Dr - @ChrisMasonBBC - is doing a brilliant job pic.twitter.com/J1UCVqvNZi

— Nick Robinson (@bbcnickrobinson) July 8, 2022

He’s ready

Your original version was working well pic.twitter.com/03ovkiC0ZZ

— Jon (@giftedrascal) July 8, 2022

is that really the best photo he has?
where do they find these f-grade humans?

the face of a man who has just been caught browsing wikifeet on company time

Another tractor fan.

Lol

Sunak’s campaign video has 4.3m views out of a U.K. population of approx 68m: https://t.co/pRvoWLbBn1

— Ben Judah (@b_judah) July 8, 2022

cursed spectator garden party photos: a thread pic.twitter.com/hJMpFk07Ip

— axaxaxas lmäo (@demarionunn) July 8, 2022

Yeah, he had all that suspiciously ready...

Xpost

(xp) If only COVID was still rampant.

I really despise the way Tory leadership contests are drawn out over multiple rounds. They should have one vote and the candidate who gets most votes wins. FPTP only for the plebs apparently!

"You lied this country into a war that cost 1000's of lives. Boris Johnson ate some cake."

Haha! Alastair Campbell did NOT like that. 😂#bbcqt pic.twitter.com/qgYCMhWxBY

— Lee Harris (@addicted2newz) July 7, 2022

"well he better be careful what he says because the last guy Dr David Kelly, he regretted it"

That's amazing lol

The Telegraph keeping it real pic.twitter.com/BUA90Qd56d

— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) July 9, 2022

coming soon, Helen Lewis on why "levelling up" should be more landed gentry inclusive

more like Helen Lewis on why levelling up is an attack on women's sex-based rights