Star Trek: Strange New Worlds

I didn't find Kirk very Kirky but not 100% sure what that would be exactly. Does one have to up the wood or something.
& be a bit chubbbier.
Like not sure what qualities are not cospacial with being played by a mid 60s William Shatner. But just didn't come away from this guy going oh yeah that was definitely the same character if you hadn't heard the name and seen him engaging with his brother etc.

But enjoyed the episode and looking forward to the next season.
Interesting to hear the approximation of that familiar character's voice. Still wondering when he actually joined the ship and if his relationship to the ship doesn't indicate a longer term history than joining as chief engineer etc, So was he a lower rank on the same ship at an earlier stage.

Like obviously character had to be the one that Pike being there unintentionally replaced. So had to be there as the alternative perspective and an actor is only doing an interpretation of a character but like phenomenologically what makes that character that character. I don't really see that individual to have much on common with Shatner's

Did watch Balance of Terror last night which showed the story this was an alternative take on & why one needed a Kirk in there. But still not really seeing that version of a him as necessarily being a him. Do think there must be more to this character than an entity being played by William Shatner and assume the film from 13 years ago did find a way of channeling the character though they did alter a few other characters to some degree.
Also in Discovery where they used the footage from the Cage as teh Flashback to a previous visit to the planet as though they looked interchangeable which they don't. i now have the episode the Cage as part of what I grabbed to see Balance of Terror so can watch that at some point.
Anyway interesting seeing the 2 versions and seeing what else was changed. Like more integration of other ethnicities, guy being killed on screen appears to be Irish American or something in the TOS version and South Asian in the new one.
Also I take it that uniform with the turtleneck underlayer is canon now or still. Not sure if I've seen it since the original cast Movie series.

Not only was Pike's hair even taller, but he had sideburns too -- or were they not new?

the girlfriend outs herself as clearly suspect for preferring Pike w beard

wtf lady

i mean i like his beard but cmon

i enjoyed the detail that the background romulans in this ep also are wearing helmets! most of the romulans wore helmets in TOS bc makeup couldn’t afford/didnt have time to make multiple sets of ears for cast + extras so they just did a few sets and put everyone else in gold-painted uh watermelon hats

also romulan commander’s costume has a nod to the red shoulder drapery of the TOS Theiss wool costume (which itself seemed borne of being stuck w 7 rolls of ugly wool upholstery fabric & being told to “figure it out”)

srsly everyone go rewatch the TOS episode!

i mean i like his beard but cmon

fp

i've had no prior complaints about basically any of the new castings -- several of them, notably nurse chappell, are improvements

but despite it being a hypothetical future that (probably -- go rogue, pike!) won't happen, that kirk and that romulan commander left a lot to be desired imo

I didn’t necessarily agree with it, but found this negative take on the finale thought-provoking - which touches on the militarism mentioned above but also the canonical determinism involved in prequel storytelling

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/star-trek-strange-new-worlds-episode-10-review-a-quality-of-mercy-season-finale/amp/

I also rewatched BoT yesterday and was suprised how much was cribbed. Well, without the .. endless.... spaaaacess.... betweeen anyone.... talking...

Nu-Uhura even asked if she could have the big hair for this ep but i guess they didnt have time so she went with big nails instead <3

kirk and that romulan commander left a lot to be desired imo

I can't remember if Sarek has made it into the Ethan Peck Spockosphere yet (stopped watching Discovery). It would be neat if the Romulan commander was the same actor.
Like everyone else, we also rewatched (or, in my husband's case, watched for the first time) Balance of Terror, and watching Kirk running his fingers over the consoles in the same way that Pike does, I wondered if some of the swagger that Kirk has is to do with being captain of the Enterprise? Is there just something about being in that position, with Uhura and Spock at your back, that gives a person that heft and that's why Kirk-in-this-timeline doesn't quite have it? (I am not very serious about this.)
He did have a great mid-Sixties look about him, though. Like, he could plausibly appear in an Elvis film.

Sarek was all over the first season of Disco, and it was a different actor than the Commander.

james frain played sarek in discovery; i thought he was fine

Sarek was all over the first season of Disco, and it was a different actor than the Commander.

Jesus, my memory is terrible.

Well Disco is terrible (sorry Trayce!) so I don't blame anyone for trying to forget it.

Nice short interview with Paul Wesley

https://ew.com/tv/paul-wesley-captain-kirk-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-finale/

We've been watching Star Trek: Strange New Worlds and I'm having two reactions:

1. Ooh, this must be how people watching TOS felt! 😍

2. OH NO THEY'RE ALL HOT 😳 pic.twitter.com/JyQ7DQ2Z2i

— Just Very Fucking tired, Man (@jvfriedman) July 10, 2022

LOL Leee. I agree some parts of Disco were terrible, dont worry. The whole Klingon storyline/first season. All the sighing and crying and gnashing of teeth and talking when the World is Ending.

But eh its still fun. Meanwhile I'm watching DS9 with reasonable enjoyment but bitten tounge due to all the BLATANT B5 THEFT mutter.

this guy apparently fucking *hates* the show, which is semi-reasonable up until he both praises disco/picard in comparison and also concludes that nothing in this scenario can possibly be new, and therefore the attempt itself is offensive

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/tag/star-trek-strange-new-worlds

OK I'll bite, but JMS himself has said that he doesn't believe that DS9 ripped off B5, and they're tonally pretty distinct.

3 mins into the first ep and im here to say i did not expect to be ambushed by the wait-that-can't-be of combination long hair with a centre parting and a federation uniform

why do i think this, i have no idea

Is it because you associate that hairstyle with the OPA? (Guessing you're talking about not-Drummer.)

maybe, i don't know! i will have to think abt it

Yes please!

The Enterprise just got a new senior officer. Meet Chief Engineer Pelia, played by the incomparable Carol Kane in #StarTrek #StrangeNewWorlds Season 2! #StarTrekDay pic.twitter.com/EEB40RYhiv

— Star Trek on Paramount+ (@StarTrekOnPPlus) September 8, 2022

Hemmers replacement is going to be Carol Kane! This is awesome!

https://intl.startrek.com/news/star-trek-day-carol-kane-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-season-2

Oh damit xpost hahaha

sweet!

The excellence

My screenname is not what it is for nae reason.

Carol Kane! Love it.

Finally got round to watching the season finale — enjoyed it but I hadn’t seen “Balance of Terror”, so a lot of the cheesy references from TOS went over my head and just seemed, well, cheesy.

Love this show; the only disappointment was how quickly the storyline with the doctor’s daughter got resolved — I was expecting something more epic several seasons down the line.

OK this is cute:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvX8ktHtfYU

Per this post, season 2 back mid-June, and already renewed for season 3 too.

Buried at the end of that story was the fact that Discovery was ending with S5, which is news to me! Can't say I'm heartbroken but I did feel the tiniest twinge of some kind of human emotion.

Disco news has been out there for a few weeks now, scuttlebutt is that it's a cost cutting move.

Also Disco's set up in such a way that nothing's stopping it from dribbling on forever really (as it wont break any canon) so they might as well wind it up or it'll Simpsonsify.

Oh hell yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjWBj9CGgGI

Carol Kane better be a regular

She's the new engineer so I'm rather guessing yes.

Guess that means #1 doesn't stay in prison long.

absolutely psyched - still can’t believe they worked out how to make a good star trek - esp from this least vibey of premises - all praise to Nu-Pike for being charismatic enough to hang a TV show around

Pretty stoked for this - I really tried and like 1/2 of Disco, but Strange New Worlds first season was some fun sci fi/ Star Trek canon.

Hijinks! Lower Decks! Etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69mzZqcM0qw

Also, unexpectedly, second season Picard.

Two days to go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwGu1vpn4E

I'm not saying it's not true, but I do love an actor saying "what I'm hearing from the fans is they want more of my character!"

Ha yeah that was great - and then the next shot is just “Ortegas does tricky manoeuvre” which feels like the most stock and one-dimensional thing to see that character doing - but maybe we all just wanna see her doing it more! Like, just a bigger section of the SNW pie-chart is that! I don’t care I love this show and am psyched to have it BACK

I'm most looking forward to the Lower Decks crossover.

I think of this as the Pike N Spock show but that video reminded me how great the rest of the cast is. Hope they bring back the space pirate, and maybe Bruce Horak in another role!

I remain surprised that they resolved the issue with the Doctor’s daughter so quickly though! Seemed like they could’ve done more with that.