like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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i think i'm slightly eliding javid's self-madeness with zahawi's self-madeness there: javid made his name more with within banking than business -- but the aura of "business-heads know" isn't very different (given that it's pure culture-war nonsense anyway)

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:38 (one year ago) link

In the cesspools of twitter I have seen various Boris ultras livid at the notion that Sunak, Javid, Patel, Braverman (or even Tugendhat!) might succeed their boy.

Depressingly, Labour is further than ever from ever having a non-white bloke as leader.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:40 (one year ago) link

(Thanks! The dynamics of party revolts outside the US are interesting. We don't have that. The media influence/insider status/personal relationships and change in party demographics are fascinating.)

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

Forgetting that Sunak is another city boy wanker, albeit also an Old Wykehamist.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

Xpost

With this in mind slightly surprised that Crosby, who seems to pride himself on being in touch with the average angry gammon, seems to have anointed Zahawi...

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:44 (one year ago) link

I have wondered whether any non-white Tory leader would depress their vote in an election.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:45 (one year ago) link

You could certainly imagine an attempted dog whistle labour campaign against one.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:47 (one year ago) link

I think it almost certainly would.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

Of course, they have to persuade the various nonagenarian racists in the Tory membership to select them as leader first.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:50 (one year ago) link

the US party structures and career prospects -- especially the dems perhaps? -- are primarily organised round the ability to marshal rich donors: obviously that also exists in UK but i don't think it's quite so pitilessly determinative and exclusionary yet?

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:51 (one year ago) link

In the cesspools of twitter I have seen various Boris ultras livid at the notion that Sunak, Javid, Patel, Braverman (or even Tugendhat!) might succeed their boy.

Depressingly, Labour is further than ever from ever having a non-white bloke as leader.


The Tugmonster isn’t white enough for them? Fuck me.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link

xp it’s considerably cheaper to buy a politician here afaict for that reason

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 12:54 (one year ago) link

It begins, or at least continues

Who do Conservative party members want to be the next PM? If you looked at single choices for next Tory leader, you’d think it was a wide open field, BUT… (1/3)https://t.co/s76Vy5j93R pic.twitter.com/6ZYYkyTmkK

— YouGov (@YouGov) July 7, 2022

the US party structures and career prospects -- especially the dems perhaps? -- are primarily organised round the ability to marshal rich donors: obviously that also exists in UK but i don't think it's quite so pitilessly determinative and exclusionary yet?

When my dad rants about politics in Korea, things seem to happen on a different scale/pace not muted in the same way by money/time/distance, though I am sure money is there. We have mass media, but the local campaigns don't seem as important.

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:00 (one year ago) link

my guess is that boris re-standing would beat out everyone up to truss lol

also i want to dig into the hell of "none of the above"

what percentage is fabricant on at last

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link

a think i admire abt ROK politics is it's not shy abt jailing its heads of state!

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:04 (one year ago) link

Koreans like to be dramatic.

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:05 (one year ago) link

From what I understand, the vengeance tends to be personal but not necessarily institutionally destabilizing if that is possible.

youn, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:09 (one year ago) link

Zahawi is Kurdish but from an extremely well to do family.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:17 (one year ago) link

Dorries was trying to portray him as someone who fought tooth and claw to get where he is today, lol he's a featherweight. Another amusing thing I read on him was some teacher saying he walked out of a Q+A at his school after he was getting owned by the kids.

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link

Possibly also worth mentioning Sunak is married to a billionaire's daughter. Plus both his parents and Patel's came to the UK via East Africa. I don't really know of course, but I imagine these aren't the average stories of South Asian immigrants & their descendants in the UK.

rob, Thursday, 7 July 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

Most East African Asians I know are very solid middle-class people, whether as small business owners or as professionals, or whether Sikh, Muslim or Hindu.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

possibly Patel's parents were amongst those Asians expelled from Uganda by Idi Amin in the 70's. I'm sure I read her dad once ran as UKIP candidate or was going to and perhaps Priti persuaded him not to

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:06 (one year ago) link

No, they came just before the mass expulsions.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

And I have to say they’re not all weird Tories - my best friend from that background is totally socialist with a widowed mother who became a magistrate, and one of his siblings runs Tell Mama; the other runs an anti-terror charity set up after she was injured on 7/7.

Off to put a rose on Liz D’s bench in Queen Square. 17 unbelievable years ago!

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:11 (one year ago) link

oh no I didn't mean to imply they're all weird Tories! I apologize for that

rob, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

Zahawi's previous life as a Teletubbies-tat salesman is the only, even slightly amusing thing art him

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

Lol

EXCL: Boris Johnson and wife Carrie are planning big wedding bash at Chequers within weeks - with sources saying it's part of reason he wants to stay as caretaker. https://t.co/oUSLeGs4Ed

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) July 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link

there is something sublime about how much he loves parties, dionysian maybe

rob, Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Yes, as long as he's not paying for them. Pretty sure there's a lot of stuff going to come out about his tenure as PM that's going to scupper his ambition of being world king Winston Churchill in the job longer than Theresa May

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 July 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

i mean winston churchill was perennially wildly broke* right through until the moment he became PM (and really only safely cleared his debt after the war by persuading a vast and flattered US readership to purchase "a history of the english-speaking peoples" in four volumes)

*he was four million in the hole in the early 30s, when he was much the same age bojo is now

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Churchill invented some useless piece of shit weapon called the panjandrum which was never used. Boris makes buses out of cereal boxes.

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:10 (one year ago) link

"The prototype was secretly constructed at Leytonstone and transported by night to the testing grounds at Westward Ho!"

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:13 (one year ago) link

it was so haphazard and dangerous it probably would have killed dozens of Allied soldiers if it had somehow got past the testing stage. Although the wiki mentions it may have been a hoax leaked to German military-intelligence. But he did invent lots of other crap military stuff as well.

calzino, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

oh goddddd

Rory Stewart meditates in the lotus position in a Nepalese monastery, eyes closed. His hair ruffles in the breeze. Goat bells clank in the distance.

Four members of the 1922 committee approach nervously.

Stewart (eyes still closed): I’ve been expecting you.

— Tom Easton (@TomEaston) July 7, 2022

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:44 (one year ago) link

tanned rested and ready lads

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/4RwAAOxyF0pThwEy/s-l300.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:50 (one year ago) link

Oh no

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link

Flashback to when a current early front-runner to be the next prime minister suggested he was going to torture & castrate Michael Gove pic.twitter.com/U6NLUTFLin

— Neil Warner (@NeilWarner_) July 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:13 (one year ago) link

Call me a cynic but those sound like more empty promises alas

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:21 (one year ago) link

castrating gove v castrating buzz lightyear

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:32 (one year ago) link

https://c.tenor.com/BUtUo71HCgUAAAAM/red89z.gif

mark s, Thursday, 7 July 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link

Lol

Weird mix of new ministerial appointments:

Will Quince only resigned yesterday. Graham Stuart and Matt Warman sacked by Johnson last September. pic.twitter.com/ovYY19saxS

— Joe Pike (@joepike) July 7, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

Starting to think cocaine might be a hell of a drug lads

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:47 (one year ago) link

Wait till you watch this video and then say that

"I think that this country deserves a very honest, ethical person because this is a great nation and I think it deserves a great leader."

Watch as members of the public react to Boris Johnson's resignation pic.twitter.com/XxcIzpQyUT

— PA Media (@PA) July 7, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 7 July 2022 18:48 (one year ago) link

"I think that this country deserves a very honest, ethical person because this is a great nation and I think it deserves a great leader."
you really can tell that she just got here, can't you?

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

Don’t know where exactly in that London this clip is filmed but it’s clearly one of the shit bits

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link

exit to Westminster tube station, isn't it? (so yes)

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:06 (one year ago) link

are the people in that vid AI-generated or something?

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link

This is more like it.

Thinking about this queen pic.twitter.com/q1rRkuN6iP

— Matt 🧨 (@matteottismith) July 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 7 July 2022 19:34 (one year ago) link

He’s Uxbridge & South Ruislip since 2015

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:38 (ten months ago) link

Well remembered bit of Boris lore though

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:39 (ten months ago) link

Yes but he very much would prefer to be the MP for Henley again.

Renaissance of the Celtic Trumpet (Tom D.), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:40 (ten months ago) link

my thread title would involve Sakuranomics but hey

two grills one tap (Noodle Vague), Friday, 9 June 2023 20:46 (ten months ago) link

"I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie," would be lovely to see in Site New Answers every day

glumdalclitch, Friday, 9 June 2023 20:56 (ten months ago) link

I don't understand the Dorries arrangement. She is not included on the honours list to avoid a byelection and then stands down anyway.
Obviously some deal has been made, but it just seems like she gaining absolutely nothing from it.

calzino, Friday, 9 June 2023 21:34 (ten months ago) link

xp I’m into it

TY FRANCE HATES TEXAS CONFIRMED (gyac), Friday, 9 June 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link

New thread: “I take my responsibilities seriously. I did not lie” - UK politics June 23 on

mod, Friday, 9 June 2023 22:24 (ten months ago) link


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