Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

“Rogue One is more about an event than the actual journey of (the) characters,” he says. “It’s quite amazing to start a show where it’s not about where we can end – it’s about, how did we end there?”

Cool, but I can’t help feeling this is a case of wishful thinking / doth protesting too much!

Yeah. Mandalorian was exhilarating for me because it was like finally they’re doing a tales of star wars/weird aliens and worlds/characters whose fate is unwritten/stakes may or may not be high type thing which they really should’ve pivoted to 35 years ago! But no.

Better Call Cassian

I didn’t even find that character very likable. Doesn’t he murder a guy in the opening scene of rogue one?

The whole “what even are mandalorians, and are some offshoot cultists?” was like my fave angle of Mandalorian

xp didn't hurt Saul's likability any

I never watched Breaking Bad/Saul, so maybe I’m not the audience

Better Call Saw (Gerrera)

really does look great tbf

Watch the new trailer for #Andor, a Star Wars Original Series, streaming only on @DisneyPlus. Experience the three-episode premiere September 21. pic.twitter.com/awy4AxiOeH

— Star Wars | Andor Premieres Sept 21 on Disney+ (@starwars) August 1, 2022

fuckin a.

star wars needs these stakes: good vs evil, take the fight to the motherfuckers. too many of these spinoffs have been like "the naboo diaries" or whatever. "call it war". thank you.

this is the first of these shows that actually looks cool to me

If the legacy of Disney getting Star Wars ultimately turns out to be more Rogue One and this kind of stuff, bring it. (Casts Rebels into a harsher light too, not a bad thing.)

I would maybe watch “#Endor”

"We were hunted down relentlessly." "But you aided the Rebellion." "...they tired of us."

my brother's girlfriend was in a musical at the Orlando Fringe this year called Star Shanties, which the premise was they were smugglers smuggling cargo, and they were singing sea space shanties about their voyages.

I want more weird stuff like that, like, I wanna see what life looked like under the Empire, I want to see the stupid forms you had to fill out to do shit there, want to see the Senate hold proceedings and then ignoring all of the bills passed because the Empire was a dictatorship and lol at the 'laws passed'.

Andor seems like it will be that way.

people say that kind of thing but then there are others who are like "Trade disputes! I just want aliens and ships that blow up!"

I would maybe watch “#Endor”

"Before he was a hero among men, he was a king among beasts...Endor Under Andor, a Disney Plus series"

xpost I mean...I also like that programming too! *shrug*

all I know I don't want is a show called Star Peace

Was that Anton Lesser in the trailer? Love that guy.

So THIS looks wonderful. Kind of sad Obi Wan seemed to get the "TV Movie Of The Week" curse while this looks gorgeous and rich.

*not "curse". I meant "treatment".

ooh they did call Saw

I want some REAL ASS REVOLUTION. But in Star Wars.

Apparently they're not filming Andor in "The Volume." Maybe that's why it looks so good?

probably some truth in that

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news/star-wars-andor-doesnt-use-volume-says-tony-gilroy-exclusive/

The look of it seems really in keeping with Rogue One, the best looking Star War.

“In Pitlochry, Scotland, we had to walk for hours up a mountain to set up one shot,” says Luna. “Huge effort. Really dangerous to get there. All you can see around you is sky, trees, rivers, lakes. Amazing! Like being on another planet.”

I didnt think scotland had trees

Shoulda left off voiceover guy at the end but anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PboKpnin_Wg

Also have an extended clip up on Disney+ itself.

Well DAMN Andor delivers so far.

yeah this is great

the policing aspect feels like oldschool brit procedural and i LUV it

also aesthetically- love the color pallete, all the browns & oranges… also it needs to be said that star wars universe outerwear is chef’s kiss always

fuck I'm so excited

So this is where all the budget and creativity for “Obi Wan” and “Boba Fett” went!

Am saving the third episode for the weekend but yeah loving it so far.

The universe feels lived in and the characters for once appear to be driven by human-level motivations - misplaced ambition, jealousy, laziness, spur-of-the-moment thoughtlessness. People actually talking like people, instead of just delivering exposition. No one is just going round going from place to place completing RPG quests (which is what Obi-Wan/Mando sometimes felt like).

also hell yeah, blue ramen

Lovely and perfect detail, that,

Andor truly the Star Wars show for anyone who ever wanted a Star Wars without Jedi, lightsabers, action, cool spaceships, iconic designs, John Williams music, or things happening at all, but get really excited about scene after scene of intensely whispered exposition

— Matthew Perpetua (@perpetua) September 21, 2022

It's amazing how this guy is just wrong about everything. I knew the second I saw this tweet that I would love the show.

I enjoyed the first few episodes of Andor, so now I'm going back and checking out Kenobi, and holy shit, I never realized how brutal the recruitment process for RHCP was.

What I got I got to give it to the Empire

Paul says Let It Be

big ACAB energy so far

are my eyes deceiving me or was the police bus thing that brought the cops down to the planetary surface the same sort of vehicle that the jawas bundled our droid friends into on tattooine? as if the jawas had found an old junked spaceship of this model and repurposed it into a sand crawler?

i wasn’t thrilled by the horizon zero dawn shit but at least it’s out of the way. that really could have all been told in a line or two. the way cas was “adopted” was fairly… horrific?! like okay maybe you’re right that he would have been in trouble or even killed later, but who put you in charge

Oh I very much like the idea that the 'adoption' wasn't nice, pleasant or even desired!

the cop transport was similar to a clone wars-era troop transport from the starwars 2 movie

Mull of Kenari

Am at least semi enjoying this though am aware taht whatever background is being set is pretty temporary no matter how in depth it's being set up as so intrigues between side characters probably not as important as might seem. I take it we do know the ultimate end of the story arc anyway & it ain't no frog chorus. THough possibly set up to show attitudes to loyalty and a few other things. Though he do seem a tad shady and stuff.

Trying to work out why the kids clothing on Kenari looks so manufactured when they seem to have been returned to a primitive level though not sure how long before. THought clothing would be more natural/simple not as textured or complicatedly finished. KIds look more dressed than scrabbling by having to make clothing or whatever from local materials.

Is this like a footnote to a footnote if the main character is someone whose til now main arc was inside a film that sets up some of the action in one of the original films.

Yes definitely - backstory to the backstory.

Interesting point about the clothes. Maybe they’re still getting by on the remains of what the mining colony left (maybe 100 years earlier? Hard to tell)

I wonder if Dudley Do-Right policeman is going to “break good” at some point

The situation on Kenari was relatively recent. There’s that line in the third episode about how Cassian saw his father hanged by the imperials in the town square as a kid! The implication is that the adults were killed or were absent for other reasons.

I think the bouncing between his past and the present day sets up the parallel of circumstances molding his path. He didn’t choose to leave his planet but that became his life, much as he isn’t actively trying to become a rebel agent but he’s stuck with another foster parent figure again. Orphans make the best agents, you know.

I kind of hope they follow through on that, and his diminished sense of agency, as he gets groomed as a spy and assassin

(I mean, it seems incredibly likely they will with Gilroy reusing some of the backstory markers from his Bourne series screenplays)

And that's in place in Rogue One as well, so.