I come in peace... three times a night -- FOR ALL MANKIND (Apple TV Plus)

I can't even imagine what the next episode will be like except very generally and I don't really want to speculate.

That was an awesome episode. Space sucks and everything can go fubar in an instant. Great hard stop ending with a callback to episode 1 this season.

The season trailer showed boots on Mars with Pres Wilson voiceover so someone has to make it.

WE’RE ALL COUNTING ON YOU LARRY

Lol

Very sad it's not Friday yet

I have some life events going on that are somehow in my mind are merging with FAM but don't know whether I will dsicuss on this or even another thread.

Weird shooting script-based subtitle discrepancy this episode.

FUCKIN'-A!

What was the discrepancy?

Subtitles don’t like up with what is said several times in the first dozen minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHGeCF1aS-o

Don’t line up

Moscow vs. Star City for one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPCZJFVL3aE

THIS SHOW.

Almost wished Ed kept going (and becoming a smear on the surface) to spare us anymore Bad Danny Decisions. Kiddo is putting his head into the lion's jaw on the regular. That said, Devios lost, so that's a decent consolation. Dani and the cosmonaut with the newscaster doing play by play was a nice and surprising bit of slapstick to ease us down and also a genuine lol.

Question: does anyone know how long the descent took in episode time? Was it actually 7 minutes, because it felt like it.

The Devios space suits are CHONKY.

Perfect episode, one of FAM's best

- They brought back Wayne! I am 100% fine with fan service when I am the fan
- Enjoying the Karen Baldwin/Donna Emerson symmetry. Maybe she'll found a startup?
- Kelly and Aleida are the only good "next generation" characters
- Landing scene, Danielle, rolling onto Mars: perfect

Margo thinks it will work out ok, because she has a plan :(

Margo plans, Gorbachev laughs

goddam the stakes per episode in this show are so fucking GOOD

space is awesome, why arent all shows set in space

that final sequence was very “roger Houston we’re breathing again” JESUS CHRIST … dying at Danielle wrestling the russkie to be first on mars, goddamn she rules!

and WAYNE our king returns to get Karen high yaaaaay thank u wayne

meanwhile Danny is a little psycho and my new theory is he straightup kills Ed now because uh

Ha yeah me and the feller also wondering if Danny just gonna kill Ed/Sabotage something to fuck him up. He's got nutbar in his eyes.

for real!

Danny's already got a hero streak in him. Wouldn't be surprised if he went the way of his parents. Could also, yeah, imagine him trying to kill Ed, or leaving Ed for dead. Or Ed leaving *him* for dead. Or Ed wanting to leave him for dead but doing the right thing and saving him. Or trying to do the right thing, but Danny preferring to die. Or Danny saving Ed. And so on. This show is full of surprises.

Was Danny sending a message to his (similarly not quite right) little brother? Which means his brother knows about him and Karen?

i wondered that too!

The way he referred to Gordo, I assumed it was his brother (Jimmy).

Could anyone else see Karen running for president against Ellen Wilson?

Maybe after she's done being a VC, as a rough stand-in for Forbes or Romney.

yeah i can kinda see it now that you say it

It will be a battle of the secret lives, Karen's past vs. Ellen's. They'll have a big dramatic scene together like Pacino and DeNiro in "Heat." "You know, we are sitting here, you and I, like a couple of regular gals. You do what you do, and I do what I gotta do. And now that we've been face to face, if I'm there and I gotta put you away, I won't like it. But I tell you, if it's between you and the White House, sister, you are going down."

or like DeVito and Dreyfuss in Tin Men!

Do we think Margo knows Ellen’s secret? Other than being President, Ellen hasn’t had too big a role this season. Margo and Danny are getting very stressed by their secrets. Could it be Ellen’s turn soon? Maybe that’s Margo’s play to get out from under the Russian kompromat and free Sergei (though he doesn’t look like he will survive too long).

Xpost Danny. I kinda think Ed and Danny will have to rescue the NASA folks. Danny going out in a blaze of self-sacrifice glory on Mars would be a neat parallel to his parents.

Thing about this show is it's only one five-year fast forward away from changing everything with no preamble.

Yeah but you really think they are going to do that after they just landed on the Redd Planet?

who knows

moore is not exactly the kindest of showrunners, re expectations etc

He was definitely sending V-mail to Jimmy: his name came up on the screen for a moment. (many xposts)

I’m guessing that the Ed/Danny thing is going to play out in a way that subverts expectations, but I think I’d rather be surprised than guess at this point

Kind of hope it involves Danny growing the fuck up and growing past the whole Karen thing

Right, feel like he should move on from Karen to Lee Remick.

I wonder if they'll find Martian life? Would that be the first time the science itself has gone speculative?

Dunno, but one of the upcoming episodes seems to be called “Dark They Were, and Golden-Eyed” if that’s any indication.

Solid episode. Appreciate the small twist that it's (presumably) Larry not Ellen who will cause the scandal.

So is Ellen going to be forced to come out?

No, she is going to throw Larry under the Mars-94

I think it depends on whether the Oval Office recordings get subpoenaed as part of an investigation into Larry (iirc Watergate didn’t happen in this timeline so Ellen doesn’t know that recording everything is a bad idea). The Larry/Ellen conversation about Deke happened for one reason (coming up with DADT) but maybe it happened for two.

it feels inevitable that Danny is going to try to kill Ed now lol - also omg that Dino & Ricky needledrop from Rio Bravo for Ed’s arrival on Sojourner was the fucking BEST <3

Yup.

As someone who has liked every episode of this show so far, this is the first one that I completely disliked. Not the acting, not the writing, not the FX, not the characters, not the A/B/C/D stories. Nada. Don't care where any of this goes.

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Should stress that "don't care where any of this goes" was just my reaction to a lot of these melodramatic sub-plots, like Danny and Karen, or Kelly and the Russian, or Ed and Danny, or all the closeted characters, which all seem more ... conventional TV tropes to me. I'm definitely sticking with the show, though!