Always thought of Beach Boys, "Wild Honey", as being a precursor of "back to basics".
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:15 (one year ago) link
In a fresh way, yeah.
xpost Keidis also had his own book to do:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71WwOBbOEzL.jpg
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Keep in mind that, if the back-to-roots idea had been in the air for 10 or 11 months before Nov 1968, that was already more than half of Rolling Stone's lifespan. Also Wenner might have wanted to get out in front of the next trend by saying, "we pioneered this, but we're already onto the next thing".
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Well, in a weird way, it was in fact Smiley Smile.
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
Well, yes, I thought of that, in terms of being stripped back and home recorded, but there's far too much psychedelic era weirdness going on!
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:20 (one year ago) link
Keidis book Co-written with Larry Sloman, dubbed "Ratso" by the Rolling Thunder Review, when he was the Stone's rolling Rolling correspondent. They assigned him to taking Dylan's dog for walkies. He dubbed Berlin The Sgt. Pepper's of the 70s. Sample text on Amazon page looks disappointingly normie so far.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:21 (one year ago) link
have to imagine a lot of pretty much forgotten bands reacting to Pepper et al with "yeah we're taking it back to rock and roll" in the press?
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link
home recorded, but there's far too much psychedelic era weirdness going on! That was home to Brian, his sandbox being thee least of it.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link
JWH,BB, and The Beatles/White Album are not just rehashed rootz..
No, but I think it was a somewhat amorphous concept that meant different things in different contexts. For Sha Na Na, it meant an imitation--a pretty dire one--of 1957. With those three albums, I take it to mean something like, "Last year we were doing '2000 Light Years from Home,' now we want to play things that sound like 'Prodigal Son.'"
― clemenza, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link
Also, blues rock was coming up, first Canned Heat album was released '67.
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:25 (one year ago) link
OMG, they were uneven----w Al Wilson and John Lee Hooker, and sometimes even without, could be quite good, but a Rolling Stone reviewer (Ed Ward?) said another album should have been titled Yassuh Boss.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:29 (one year ago) link
That's around the time I started seeing the term "blooze," although Mayall and some other dealers had their high points from time to tim.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
I love Canned Heat!
― Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link
Yeah, they could be very good!
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link
Future Blues is a peak w Al Wilson (also there's a Wilson compilation now), also Hooker n Heat is uneven, but the Hook keeps it going, and The Very Best of Canned Heat is good.
― dow, Friday, 1 July 2022 23:36 (one year ago) link
I enjoyed Robert Johnson’s back to basics phase
― calstars, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link
hooker and heat is totally badass
― brimstead, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:03 (one year ago) link
I guess Zeppelins back to basics record is presence? Not really tho. Good on them to never have reached that point
― calstars, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link
I've been looking at the origins of back-to-basics for something I've been working on, and I always assumed it began with The White Album, Beggars Banquet, and JWH.It pretty much started with Music From Big Pink, which — along with bootlegs of The Basement Tapes — essentially forced all UK rock musicians to simultaneously stop taking acid. Two hugely successful bands (the Small Faces and Cream) broke up because of the Band, and every other remaining group tried to sound like the Band.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:35 (one year ago) link
Yeah, although that wasn't just going back to roots, it was what you could do with them: a fairly slow set, kicking off with a dirge ffs---but so intense in its way, in layers and segments of genres, subgenres, within as well as among tracks---psychedelic in its way, expanding and contracting thee lines around things (I don't love it, but I think I understand it).
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link
Understand its influence, for better and worse.
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link
Perhaps, though "square one" for RHCP wasn't those particular four guys (and he doesn't say "THESE four guys in a room together..."). This ties into it being such a weirdly vacant-feeling quote, as if it's somehow missing every fourth or fifth word.not unlike Kiedis’ lyrics amiriteand while it pains me still, this is at least the third time that Frusciante has joined the band, and he pursues decidedly non-Chi-Pep musical interests during his interregna, so it plausibly does take the 3.1 musicians learning from scratch how to play together each time.(None of this lessens the quote’s qualifications for starring itt obv!)
― Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Saturday, 2 July 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link
stop taking acid.
― dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 03:06 (one year ago) link
Also I really do think it's vanishingly rare for a huge band to track drums/bass/guitar live together these days (as RHCP does) , rather than layering them.
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 2 July 2022 04:10 (one year ago) link
Related--not sure where else to put it...Saw a trailer for this tonight before the Neil Young film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YRb0qY5eKc
The whole back-to-basics thing started in '68, but this really accelerated it.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2022 07:49 (one year ago) link
Geddy Lee was there and taking notes: "One day, God willing, I will honor Bo Diddley with 'The Temples of Syrinx.'"
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2022 07:52 (one year ago) link
getting back to basics is cool but i wanna get back to getting it together in the country
― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Sunday, 11 December 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
"One day, God willing, I will honor Bo Diddley with 'The Temples of Syrinx.'"lol, but also…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDlK52SvJVY
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 December 2022 14:36 (one year ago) link
WTF about the voice of Geddy Lee?
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 December 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link
That's amazing, Tarfumes, had no idea--he really was taking notes. Hard to unhear that voice, but they do pretty well otherwise.
― clemenza, Sunday, 11 December 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
Mr. Bungle: https://thefoxoakland.com/events/mr-bungle-230523
Even in their last tours of the millennium they played songs from their very first demo, the self-produced, amateurish gem The Raging Wrath of The Easter Bunny (1986). The pull of returning to full-on metal was too strong to avoid and the idea arose to re-record that primal demo giving the music the much needed presentation and precision it deserved. Spruance, Patton & Dunn decided to go to the source, The Big Four of course, and hand-pick the two guys who could help them realize this body of work with the utmost brutality.
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Because this was a musical homecoming of 35 years, the relearning and re-recording felt brand new and was able to be enjoyed objectively, not to mention reinvigorated by the likes of the masters Ian and Lombardo. Mr. Bungle maintained the rawness and severity of the original demo without too much embellishment preferring to let the music speak for itself in all of its teenage-angst glory.
― skip, Thursday, 26 January 2023 00:06 (one year ago) link
actually turned out pretty well in their case
― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 00:55 (one year ago) link
just as a 'hey it's the pandemic let's revisit our past' one off
― def jeftones (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 January 2023 00:56 (one year ago) link
This new Radiohead side project The Smile feels very aging rock act getting back to basics
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 27 January 2023 21:11 (one year ago) link
Just four computers in a room
― is it milli vanilli or just a facsimile (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 January 2023 21:27 (one year ago) link
Yorke told MTV: "The last two studio records were a real headache. We had spent so much time looking at computers and grids, we were like, that's enough, we can't do that any more. This time, we used computers, but they had to actually be in the room with all the gear. So everything was about performance, like staging a play."[12]― new noise, Saturday, March 10, 2018
― Kim Kimberly, Friday, 27 January 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link
Thing about the Mr Bungle revamp is that it was pre-pandemic — I caught the SF show of their first burst of dates about a month before lockdown.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 January 2023 23:05 (one year ago) link
i knew they'd played it live but i figured they hadn't planned to actually, like, record it until the world shut down...buuut my memory may be wrong on that one.
― I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THE DIAPER GOT LOOSE (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 January 2023 23:30 (one year ago) link
Art-pop department:https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/apr/11/patrick-wolf-addiction-bankruptcy-hit-and-run-night-safari
This confidence in telling the story of his decade of disaster and recovery came from Wolf’s “thrill” at working alone with the same instruments he used on his first two albums. “I reconnected with my craft – it’s how I started when I was 14, just with my four-track,” he says.
― hellboy falling through the bar (Matt #2), Tuesday, 11 April 2023 14:32 (one year ago) link
"“But Here We Are” has a back-to-basics immediacy and intensity that was missing from the last few Foo Fighters albums. Though not terribly surprising for a group nearing its 30th year, they have sometimes seemed in the past decade to be grasping for gimmicks and overarching concepts to differentiate one record from the next: “Medicine at Midnight,” from 2021, was a forgettable foray into ’80s-inspired dance rock and funk grooves. (As a companion piece, they also released a cheeky collection of Bee Gees covers.) The songwriting on “Sonic Highways,” from 2014, was a bit stronger, but that album still felt yoked a little too tightly to its concept — recording each song in a different city and paying tribute to its musical history, as explored on the Grohl-directed documentary series of the same name."
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/arts/music/foo-fighters-but-here-we-are-review.html
― calstars, Friday, 2 June 2023 20:13 (ten months ago) link
"We decided to make an album where none of us was ever in the room."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 June 2023 20:42 (ten months ago) link
Be Here We Are Now
― calstars, Friday, 2 June 2023 21:22 (ten months ago) link
Entertain us
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 2 June 2023 22:29 (ten months ago) link
Then they brought in Antonoff, whose band, Bleachers, came up around the same time as the 1975, but who is better known for producing Swift, Lana Del Rey, Lorde, and seemingly every other big name in pop. The safest thing for the 1975 to do, Antonoff said, would be to venture further into the esoteric; the surprising and brave thing would be to make a really good, straightforward album, as simple and as complex as a perfect slice of pizza. The band, with Antonoff, set rules in the studio. Everyone would play everything together, in real time, as much as possible. Healy wouldn’t do any of the backing vocals, so that the album would be replicable live. Everyone would play analog instruments, and, ideally, ones they didn’t normally play.
― serving bundt (sic), Sunday, 4 June 2023 04:04 (ten months ago) link
"Everyone switches up instruments" is another established idea, but different from the rest of what's listed – surprised to see that thrown in at the end. I wish bands wouldn't try to make albums "replicable live"... why not give your fans a different experience.
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Sunday, 4 June 2023 04:57 (ten months ago) link
bands changing instruments is new jersey adjacent
― Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Sunday, 4 June 2023 05:05 (ten months ago) link
Have there been any ironic or "meta" takes on the "back to basics" album... like done with a wink, and maybe a good deal of studio trickery to simulate/"comment on" the live-in-a-room approach?
I guess Royal Trux's Accelerator is one version of that concept... maybe also the last Fiery Furnaces album, in a way.
― Day 1 fan (morrisp), Sunday, 4 June 2023 05:09 (ten months ago) link
Cruising With Ruben & The Jets?
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 4 June 2023 10:20 (ten months ago) link
why not give your fans a different experience.Alex Lifeson said he was disappointed when he saw Cream live because the solos weren’t the same ones from the records. This accounts for why Rush always (and inexplicably, imo) strove to make their shows sound as much like their recordings as possible. There were minor exceptions here and there, but that never made sense to me.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 4 June 2023 10:42 (ten months ago) link
Sheesh, just put a boombox on the stage and play the record
― sayonara, capybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 4 June 2023 11:47 (ten months ago) link