once-common words people don’t use anymore

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then there are all those old songs that use "making love" to describe what i'd think of as "making out", it used to really confuse me how songs as explicit as that could get popular

my favorite example of semantic shift is the way "cock" used to refer to the female pudenda in african-american vernacular - this is the sense in which it's used in "rotten cocksucker's ball". i'm definitely here for lucille bogan singing about her cock!

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:53 (one year ago) link

'stoned' for drunk, that's old school

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

It's better than drinking alone

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:21 (one year ago) link

Getting your end away

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:22 (one year ago) link

there's also the term "make whoopee" which always makes me laugh, because who the hell came up with that? did some guy who was getting laid in the 50's yell out "whoopee!!" one time?

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

1920s, more like. "Makin' whoopee" is old.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

I like "tight" for oldschool drunk terms...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link

Cockeyed

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link

I hate the term 'necking' and associate it with Alan Partridge describing Bond

kinder, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:03 (one year ago) link

Jack London always talked about being 'jingled' for drunk, which is pretty good

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:08 (one year ago) link

‘tight’ is my favorite of those terms, too, tho i never use it.

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:52 (one year ago) link

Reminds me: is there a replacement for "uptight"? I can't think of what would be adequate, in a contemporary way. Last time I heard "anal" was in, "Don't get anal about the wordcount," which was advised by Chuck Eddy at the Voice, so a while back.
Oh yeah, "uptight" and xpost Jack London and xpost 1905 use of "gay" reminds me of "Baked beans! Out of sight!" said by someone at a boarding house table, in a turn-of-the-century Jack book.
(R.Crumb got "Keep on Truckin'" from his collection of very vintage 78s.)
Speaking of music writers, haven't noticed one using "albeit" in a while, and don't miss it---but does it have a shade of meaning missed by "although"?

dow, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link

xp - yeah, I don't use it myself but I always enjoy hearing it in old films or such...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 23:34 (one year ago) link

xp - yeah, I don't use it myself but I always enjoy hearing it in old films or such...


it was either Hemingway or John O’Hara who introduced me to it!

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:18 (one year ago) link

Don't people still say uptight to mean uptight? Certainly more than I hear "anal" anymore.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 June 2022 00:23 (one year ago) link

Hope so!

dow, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link

At the time of the Stevie Wonder song, did "uptight" mean something like "got everything sewn up correctly"? Because he seems to be unusually excited about being anxious and repressed.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link

"Tighten Up" probably also related.

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:32 (one year ago) link

yeah, he seemed to mean like, "tighten up/shipshape'---never heard anybody else use "uptight" in that way, rhyming with "out of sight," even!

dow, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:47 (one year ago) link

'stoned' for drunk, that's old school

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, June 29, 2022 1:10 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also, stoned in the 1960s for tripping on acid.

peace, man, Thursday, 30 June 2022 01:51 (one year ago) link

"Uptight" went from a negative word, meaning "tense," in the 1930s, to a positive one, meaning "out of sight," in the early '60s, before whiplashing back to its negative connotation in the late '60s.

There were multimedia performances with the Velvet Underground promoted under the name "Andy Warhol's Up-Tight" in early '66, perhaps playing on the double connotation of the word.

Josefa, Thursday, 30 June 2022 03:04 (one year ago) link

then there are all those old songs that use "making love" to describe what i'd think of as "making out",

I don't know if "making love" ever meant "making out". In old movies it always means "hitting on" or "courting" or otherwise developing a romantic relationship. As in this exchange from Horse Feathers (1932):


Frank : Dad wants me to give you up. You know, you're interfering with my studies.
Connie : Ha-ha-ha. He must think I'm terrible.
Frank : But I think you're wonderful. You're beautiful.
Connie : Are you making love to me?

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link

In Minnesota in the early 90s my midwestern college peers said “scamming” meant “making out” (I think, but I’m still not clear) and it confused me as an east coaster.

My memory of the early 90s was that to "scam on" someone was synonymous with "hitting on" them; I never heard "scam" without the on used to mean "make out." But who knows what they were up to in the Midwest.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:28 (one year ago) link

Have vague memories of saying 'laced' for drunk/high... and weirdly, maybe 'draced'? Maybe that was a local thing.

kinder, Thursday, 30 June 2022 12:34 (one year ago) link

Blootered
Steamin'/ Steamboats
Away wi' it
Stocious
Paraletic (sp?)
Miroclous (sp?) etc

You probably not be surprised to hear there are dozens of words in Scotland for being drunk. However I'm not sure how many of them are still in use, the last time I was up "mortal" seemed to be in vogue. And "goosed".

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 30 June 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link

“shitpiled” was my favorite local term in the early 90s.

joygoat, Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

“pashing” and especially “pash rash” will flush out the gen X Aussies

LOL sorry Matt I'm late to the party, was just coming here to say this one. Honestly it feels like theres loads of Aussie slang from the 70s that americans peobably thing we still say but we just dont, like struth and crikey and pash.

And "rack off".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAgIFeq72oM

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:13 (one year ago) link

the word we (kids/Herefordshire/80s) used to use all the time was "skill" (adj) (or sometimes even "skilliant") - the only time I've heard it anywhere else is in Son of Rambow

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:29 (one year ago) link

I don't think "skilliant" was a thing but "skill" definitely was in Worcester in the 80s

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

I think "ace" hung on a bit longer

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link

until "wicked" took over

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:42 (one year ago) link

surely not another middle-aged Worcester person on here! (unless you are colonel poo with a new name)

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 June 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link

I think 'skill' made a brief appearance round our way but it seemed a bit affected.

kinder, Friday, 1 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Skill very popular where I grew up in west London in the early 80s. Favourite morphing of the phrase was 'skillage in the village'.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:01 (one year ago) link

i remember "i am skill!" in shropshire in the early 70s

mark s, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:05 (one year ago) link

People don't seem to 'chip off' any more (i.e. leaving), that was a big north London thing in the 80s, probably the rest of London too

how many bowling greens does one town need (Matt #2), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Do UK people still use 'et' for 'ate'?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link

Depends where you are in the UK I would imagine.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link

Do UK people still use 'et' for 'ate'?


I used this in a recent poem and people really loved it, and i am very much a yank

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:04 (one year ago) link

I didn't even realize that was a UK thing; I thought it was a Boston/Maine thing, because I think I first encountered it in Jaws (the book) and then later in Stephen King.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

I think "ace" hung on a bit longer

― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism)

until "wicked" took over

― even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism)

both peak sophie aldred

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:10 (one year ago) link

I didn't even realize that was a UK thing; I thought it was a Boston/Maine thing, because I think I first encountered it in Jaws (the book) and then later in Stephen King.

New England.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 1 July 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link

wait there's a New England??

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 July 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

Afternoon is just another cinema showtime anymore.

I once texted a young person about "catching a matinee", and they thought it was a typo of some joke about an aquatic mammal.

punning display, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:53 (one year ago) link

Never heard 'et' or 'chipping off'.

the pinefox, Sunday, 3 July 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

It’s 23 for all of you; I’ll get tight & make out on the chesterfield with my squeeze if I want to.

war mice (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 4 July 2022 03:19 (one year ago) link

Tight as an owl?

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Monday, 4 July 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link

Tight is a word my parents used to use. Getting tight at the rugger club dance. Does anyone still say "rugger" apart from my dad?

fetter, Monday, 4 July 2022 12:07 (one year ago) link

Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Monday, 4 July 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link


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