50 Memorable Songs Of The Late 1990s That Apparently Only You Remember, Even Though They Were Totally On The Radio And Stuff

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More Brit Nerf Grunge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQTqX11zNjU

Feeder: "Cement"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc1ljqKNEMk

Feeder: "High"

The latter track popped up on the Can't Hardly Wait soundtrack.

Dionne Farris opened for Bryan Ferry in 1995. She performed a 13-minute version of "I Know."

That song is an absolute banger.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:28 (one year ago) link

Self-XP Wow, reading Feeder's wiki--didn't know they were one of those Status Quo-style 'huge at home, barely known in the US bands'. 11 Albums!

25 Top 75 singles!

Who knew?

Only two of the original band members are left at this point?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:35 (one year ago) link

Yeah, the drummer died in 2002.

I've always wondered, at what point does a band simply become a group of musicians operating under a name, a la most sports teams? Is it like the ship of Theseus? A friend of mine back in college once saw Herman's Hermits . . . without Herman.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link

it's from 2000 but "Shaniqua" by Little T & One Track Mike seemed like such a huge track when it came out, now I find that basically no one remembers it

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 01:57 (one year ago) link

I remember it! I saw the video on late-night MTV once, and never again. It stuck in my head for some reason.

JRN, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:02 (one year ago) link

that stuff was like its own distinct genre, like

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgBYdsKqCsM

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BXzphHiHD8

I remember Bad Ronald debuting on MTV and thinking "wow, I guess anyone can be in a band now"

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:09 (one year ago) link

^^Did this start with Beck, or G.Love, or even Sublime?

Seems like the biggest hits of this style were "Hooch" by Everything, "Better Days" by Citizen King, and I guess "Steal My Sunshine" by Len. Good-timey Alternative Hip Hop Rock?

Sugar Ray probably fits in there somewhere too.

Beastie Boys possibly the year zero, and later on Gym Class Heroes ran with it all the way to the bank.

On a different tip, I'm not sure if this ever broke out of the "Alternative Station Sunday Night 'College Music' Show" circuit, but I did hear this on the radio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6pc-tWwccU

Drugstore (featuring Thom Yorke): "El President"

I had never heard “Shaniqua,” Scapegoat Wax, or Bad Ronald (the last one is pretty great).

In addition to the other artists mentioned, this mini-genre seems kind of Bloodhound Gang–adjacent

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link

i remember "shaniqua" but it seemed like one of those songs you would only encounter on mtv and nowhere else

dyl, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 06:26 (one year ago) link

^^Did this start with Beck, or G.Love, or even Sublime?

Seems like the biggest hits of this style were "Hooch" by Everything, "Better Days" by Citizen King, and I guess "Steal My Sunshine" by Len. Good-timey Alternative Hip Hop Rock?

yes, yes, and yes, maybe even "Summer Girls" as well. it's definitely Beastie Boys adjacent, like what if the Licensed to Ill Beasties made Hello Nasty

personally I could not get that "I've been waiting all day for that Bad Ronald" line out of my head. what does it mean

if nothing else these videos seem like they were a lot of fun to make!! always amused by the constant dancing and fist pumping regardless of what the music is doing which suggests they had no idea what the video was gonna look like when they were filming it

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

Oh I made a playlist a while back that I posted elsewhere on here that's very much stuff all in that vibe:
https://open.spotify.com/track/1TF61rLJ7HQPgpFMHfblPA

Just added Bad Ronald in there as it fits. Shaniqua is a bit too funky and hip hop for the overall vibe of the playlist.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

That link just leads to the track, can you link the playlist? Thx

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

Whoops:
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/29OSMeThq1N86C0P7cBSxi?si=5eacf817e5b34eee

MarkoP, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link

amusingly this tweet just went viral a couple days ago

back when life was great pic.twitter.com/KFoeHSybht

— ༺☆ 𝔪𝔦𝔪𝔦 ☆༻ (@plvnetmimi) June 27, 2022

fun to see people discover it for the first time. it was all over the place when I was a kid. never understood any of the MJ references though, in fact I didn't even know it was an MJ song until I was like, 19. you know what, it doesn't suck

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link

awww yeah that playlist looks awesome, gonna start listening to it now

I loved "Legend of a Cowgirl" so much when I was a kid. when I finally caught the video I was obsessed with her. though not enough to buy the CD apparently lol

"Soft Serve" is such a great SC pick. the chorus (is it really a chorus?) with the bass like a half step behind the vocals is a really great embodiment of what made this stuff so endearing. its all so chill

"Pinch Me" is also classic, imo that's the tune that should've made them stars, it's so perfectly constructed

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

Robert Pollard was ahead of the times:

“Three years ago I thought Alien Ant Farm was the worst it could get. Now I look back nostalgically on Alien Ant Farm”

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 16:04 (one year ago) link

first time hearing “Shaniqua”, but it screams Eminem to me first and foremost - which makes sense for a 2001 track.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

feel like Black Grape belongs in that playlist, after all Madchester was sort of a spiritual successor to all this stuff. Get Higher or In the Name of the Father perhaps

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link

oh wow I didn't know there was a version of "Fly" without Super Cat. its a lot worse!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

yeah :( and somehow both versions were on the album

dyl, Thursday, 30 June 2022 05:05 (one year ago) link

The bridge in the Super Cat-less version is especially bad. I thought there would be some solo or something to fill it out but nope, nothing

Vinnie, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:23 (one year ago) link

ok one more thing about Bad Ronald I clearly remember Carson Daly saying something like "kids, this is like Sesame Street on crack!" which is still very very funny to me

frogbs, Thursday, 30 June 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link

belated response to the last revive: good inclusions, Grisso! and wow at Feeder's UK success. never ever would have guessed. also never ever heard "Cement" before, but it pairs amazingly with "High"; together, they cover some key bases of alt-rock as it stood by '97. obviously "High" is derived very much from the Pumpkins (I WILL), but it's a good bit and a good use of it imho. Soccer Mommy's "Circle the Drain" in turn updates "High" for a new generation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTc1w32Vbeo

MarkoP, that playlist is a GREAT encapsulation of this micro-interzone-subgenre. also agreed about "Soft Serve" being a great Soul Coughing pick! probably Doughty's best version of this basic song type, it pops into my head a lot, mainly when ordering soft-serv. Bad Ronald has definitely gotten some love (?) upthread, and Hello Allison on 50 Memorable Songs Of The Late 1990s That Apparently Only You Remember, Even Though They Were Totally On The Radio And Stuff .

there's probably a lot of stuff from around 2000-2002 that fits this bubble, even as it was getting pushed off the dial by nu-metal, pop-punk, et al., and as the Sublime and Beck affectations passed their sell-by date. i feel like you already have basically all the acts i'd suggest... maybe "Prisoner" or another downtempo 311 number? and Dynamite Hack's dumb cover of "Boyz-n-the-Hood." "Everyday is a Winding Road" might also qualify, and surely Collective Soul or late 90s U2 did something with a drum loop or a vaguely scratchy sample... also i think of David Garza "Disco Ball World" and Alana Davis "32 Flavors," though neither has as much "rock band" DNA. finally: Bicycle has this sound all over their debut album but not so much on their would-be hit "Electrolux" - check out "68" and "Daisydunes.com," now apparently retitled just "Daisydunes."

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 13:42 (one year ago) link

surely Collective Soul or late 90s U2 did something with a drum loop or a vaguely scratchy sample

Well, U2 had Pop, which was very loopy, a lot of digital chicanery going on. This got some minor airplay as an album cut and was maybe the best track on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=199bc_xIv5Y

"Do You Feel Love?"

...and of "Discotheque" was huge for about three weeks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvF7Qq9svk

As for Collective Soul, they smartly combined looping and live drums on "Precious Declaration" in '97:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFebAtN7hhk

And they must have heard Pop afterwards, explaining this groove move in '99:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjTnYSlXQMM

"Heavy"

Feeder's album from this year starts off sort of semi channelling Simple Minds ish. Which is actually a first for them I think.

From Pop there's also the very loop-y "Mofo" and the backwards hi-hats of "Miami". Neither a proper single (although "Mofo" had requisite remix 12"s).

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

I guess the big diff, listening back to those, is that U2 and their disciples Collective Soul were both reaching more directly for rave/club music than for the SoCal stoner-skater-hip-hop fusion of these other acts. Another playlist could really track this whole, like, post-INXS axis, shading into the "electronics" fusion attempts recently mentioned in connection with Bush.

The opening of CS's "Listen" keeps making me think it should fit in here too. Just needed a pinch of fake vinyl noise to make the guitar-and-drum bit sound like a sampled loop.

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

"Run" is another Collective Soul song that's got a drum loop going on throughout it.

MarkoP, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

God, I hated Discotheque when it came out. Felt like it was played all the time on the radio. I still hate it now, it encapsulates so much of what I detest about 1998-99 chart music.

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:48 (one year ago) link

Oh yeah. My local Alt-Rock station had a strict 'no repeats' policy during DJ shifts that they broke for "Discotheque"--I swear they played it every hour for two or three weeks.

I feel I should also mention here that I was one of the ten people who saw the ABC PopMart TV special when it aired.

The Apollo 100 thread reminded me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GHN1Mu6VG0

Apollo 440: "Stop The Rock" (a summer '99 release that may have had more impact in 2000)

Last 3 posts brought to you in part by MTV's AMP and new Diet Mountain Dew.

I remember hearing Bachelor Girl's "Buses and Trains" on the radio back in 1998, but I'm surprised to find it only got to number 65 in the UK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJJKXt3tczw

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:21 (one year ago) link

Stop the Rock was pretty well known in meme circles and sites like YTMND in the 2000s.

MarkoP, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link

Also, I don't think I've heard Ace of Base's "Love is a Flower" since... also 1998, in fact it was released a few weeks before "Buses and Trains":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdc_6YvJfFo

I remember liking it - the lyrics are drivel but the verse has an odd structure. It goes to the chorus one line before you expect. I also remember feeling slightly surprised that Ace of Base were still a thing.

Bizarrely it was released in the United States as... a different song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkSdP1-GY9s

The lyrics make more sense (they were written by Mike Chapman) but it's not as good. This is the thing about actually living through 1998. I can remember 1998! I have no idea what I did in 2012, but I can remember 1998. I really have no idea what I did in 2012.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link

Haven't listened to that Death in Vegas track for years! think my pal put it on a tape for me.

I liked Ace of Base but hated that song. Was on Radio 2 forever and ever.

kinder, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

So here's me trying to catch the differences between Canada and the United States in that time period. Particularly where I remember stuff getting a bit of airplay in Canada, but apparently not enough to have a charting position listed on the single's Wikipedia page, but also nothing listed for the United States either:

Did the Spice Girls solo material get any airplay in the United States? I particularly remember seeing Melanie C's "Going Down" and "Never Be The Same Again" getting some play on MuchMusic, and a little bit of play of Melanie B's "I Want You Back" and her cover of "Word Up". Geri Halliwell's singles seemed to fair a lot better, particularly "Look at Me", "Mi Chico Latino", and her cover of "It's Raining Men". Zero recollection of Emma Bunton or Victoria Beckham's solo stuff making any bit of dent over here though.

MarkoP, Monday, 18 July 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

I dug all three of "Stop the Rock," "Going Out Of My Head," and especially "Dirt." The video of that one really impressed/freaked me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QWJm5cY60c

I don't think I saw it on TV much, maybe on some early realplayer-type online streaming service like Launch.com... not sure when that would have been though.

"Stop the Rock" I think I saw on MTV2 circa fall 2000. A tasty big-beat obscurity in the USA, a top 10 hit in the UK.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 July 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

And yeah, meme references checks out for "Stop the Rock" -- someone made a video of it attached to the rolling boulder scene from Raiders of the Lost Ark, which was worth a giggle iirc.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 18 July 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

I particularly remember seeing Melanie C's "Going Down" and "Never Be The Same Again" getting some play on MuchMusic, and a little bit of play of Melanie B's "I Want You Back" and her cover of "Word Up". Geri Halliwell's singles seemed to fair a lot better, particularly "Look at Me", "Mi Chico Latino", and her cover of "It's Raining Men".

I remember some modest controversy over the double entendre of "Going Down", and "Look At Me" got some TRL action, but I think that was it. When America was done with the Spice Girls, they were _done_.

Mr Icon mentioned them up the page, but Sugar Ray's "Every Morning" seemed to be on the radio all the time when it came out. It got to number ten in the UK. I'm not going to link to the video because I hated that song, everything about it. The smugness. I hated the smugness. It embodies a certain time and place and it can't exist outside that context.

My memory also throws Barenaked Ladies' "One Week" at me. That got to number five. The two songs came out within a few months of each other in early 1999. I think of it as the "something something something samurai" song.

I remember Mel C's "Northern Star" getting a lot of airplay. I've always associated it with darkness, rain, and the cold. I realise now that must be because it came out in November 1999, which probably explains why. Pre-millennial tension and all that. Bad weather. It got to number 5. Didn't chart in the US at all. The parent album got good reviews and sold a couple of million, but only reached 108 in the US. My recollection is that Geri Halliwell's solo singles were inexplicably popular, despite being naff, but she was likeable enough so it was hard to be annoyed with her.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 18 July 2022 21:28 (one year ago) link

Looking at the "Goin' Down" video and realizing it could have been where Miley Cyrus got all of her edgy schtick from...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn7OS2K-hwI


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