"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Always good to have a chance to repeat the key question, what the fuck is wrong with these people? This is management strategy, right?

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:16 (one year ago) link

I had a strange thought last night: What if Labour policy, as in eg: an election manifesto, actually turns out to be, to some degree ... good?

Is it conceivable that a Labour government would actually improve the chances of me, and others I know, being employed?

I think it is conceivable, even if the improvement were marginal.

This was an odd thing to think given that my view of the Labour leader is the same as that of poster Calzino.

A good argument against this thought is that the Labour leadership is so utterly mendacious that anything they promise, they are unlikely to feel obliged to deliver, so any stated policy aims are empty.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:17 (one year ago) link

Also is it wrong of me to read the "two term" crap - oh fuck I've just realised it's US pol cosplay isn't it? - as very clearly saying "we'll do nothing if we win an election but don't worry we'll definitely do something if we win a second one"?

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:19 (one year ago) link

Ah yes, the attitude that’s currently playing out so well for American women

commonly known by his nickname, "MadBum" (gyac), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

Gonna see if I can get a note from my GP to have the PLP guillotined as it will improve my mental health

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

I read it as "our policies will be so transformative we'll be thinking two terms ahead". Kieth has also said the 2019 manifesto is ditched so it's just jokes xxp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:21 (one year ago) link

It's a profoundly uninspiring and stupid thing to say for any reason and the fact that these think it isn't makes it more so

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

Found that manifesto leak

lets set some realistic goals here : jokes banned by 2016. sex banned by 2020. a cop in every household by 2025

— wint (@dril) August 28, 2013

commonly known by his nickname, "MadBum" (gyac), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:32 (one year ago) link

Looks interesting.

Wales is giving people £1,600 month in a trial of basic income.

The Welsh Government has revealed exactly how its basic income pilot will work with around 500 care leavers being the first to benefit https://t.co/BjuO7oubP0

Here's what you need to know 👇

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— WalesOnline 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (@WalesOnline) June 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 11:55 (one year ago) link

The decimation of legal aid doesn't just leave lawyers earning below minimum wage, it rigs the justice system in the interests of the wealthy and powerful – that’s why criminal barristers are on strike.https://t.co/M7ixBioUri

— Tribune (@tribunemagazine) June 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:55 (one year ago) link

This week's cover: What will it take to get Johnson out of Number 10? by @paulmasonnews

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Vivid image.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

stoya, come to the iranian embassy. If the whole country is being held hostage does that make Kieth the negotiator? maybe he's demanding a 150 grand bespoke treehouse at chequers or the whole country gets it

calzino, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link

Hyped to read Alastair Campbell's touching tribute to Jim Varney's Ernest character.

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:48 (one year ago) link

BREAKING: Metropolitan Police has been placed in special measures after litany of failures including Sarah Everard murder, Stephen Port investigation etc - sources confirming reports by @theousherwood

— Pippa Crerar (@PippaCrerar) June 28, 2022

no details on what the measures are yet

stet, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:12 (one year ago) link

Looks like the state might run out of people to exploit.

turns out that 15 years of falling real wages, extortionate childcare costs and turning people into walking cash machines for landlords are all powerful disincentives for having kids https://t.co/rsLqYs0Mum

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) June 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

At the opposite end of the timescale there's legions more potential Tory voters popping up every year. Selfish auld bastards.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

Things like climate and worsening healthcare could kill them off earlier so, who is to say what's worse?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 15:47 (one year ago) link

that can't be right i'm sure the papers told me the feckless poor keep popping out babies left right and centre

Harry Styles and fashion (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg aren't poor.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

how fortuitous that this argument is popping up in the uk after roe v wade gets overturned

makes u think

balsamic vaccinegar of moderna (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

which is to say, makes u think abt CONTROVERSIAL MOD EDIT

balsamic vaccinegar of moderna (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:42 (one year ago) link

crowd goes ooh

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:44 (one year ago) link

Huge error by Corbyn.

*zero* Labour MPs were deselected under Corbyn's leadership

All the panic & fear that the 'rabid far left' would do this, that was indulged by the media, was projection

We're going to see deselections of left MPs under Starmer's leadership and the media will silently celebrate

— Heather Mendick (@helensclegel) June 29, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link

if you don't eradicate bacteria the spores reproduce! But saying that deselecting 80%+ of garbage MPs would been an almost impossible task, it's much easier for Starmer to get shut of the few decent ones and the remaining wishy washy soft-left career MPs will step in line like good little bunnies.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:20 (one year ago) link

it's quite amusing that some of the biggest names to go under Corbyn rather than by deselection they either defected to other parties or campaigned against Labour in return for a peerage and in one case got booted out for sexual harassment and got the peerage. Just thoroughly rotten people who would have been portrayed as loyal, hard working constituency MPs who became victim to the evil Stalinist Corbyn purge.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 12:41 (one year ago) link

People who say 'I can't vote for Labour because they haven't got X right' are objectively voting Conservative. But if you can't bear the idea of voting for Labour or Lib Dem, think of it as voting AGAINST the Tories. Let's get them out, for God's sake.

— Philip Pullman (@PhilipPullman) June 28, 2022

multi-millionaire writer of trash fantasy fic in completely lacking imagination shocker. Maybe he should start imagining what reasons why the very online hoi polloi and even lots of the more passive chunks of the electorate (as seen in Wakefield last week) have very little enthusiasm for Labour and the LibDems.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

Philip Wasteman

Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western Mail (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:19 (one year ago) link

Hitler was a big fan of Karl May, who some might describe as the late 19th century equivalent of fantasy writers like Rowling/Pullman. His characters were as well known as theirs in that era although I couldn't name one from the Pullman books. Makes u think!

calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:28 (one year ago) link

Sidetrack: I knew there was a big connection between Karl May and the Spaghetti Western because he's mentioned in Christopher Frayling's book on SWs, but couldn't recall the details. A quick Google served up this gem:

Karl Friedrich May was maybe the most popular adventure story writer in Germany. He was born in Ernsttahl in 1842. In 1912 he died due to a cold in Radebeul, where his grave still exists.

https://www.spaghetti-western.net/index.php/Category:Karl_May

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:48 (one year ago) link

best line in his wikipedia entry: "At age twelve, May was making money at a skittle alley, where he was exposed to rough language.[1]"

mark s, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link

he was very a vicarious and successful writer of Westerns who never stepped foot in the US iirc

calzino, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link

good to know the deep lineage of the grand pulp surname SHATTERHAND

mark s, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:10 (one year ago) link

it kind of figures that a ruthless killer who committed war crimes in Maylaya would have a psychopathic grifter for a daughter. Evil begets evil.

calzino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 06:54 (one year ago) link

'I'd still take a bullet for him.'

Bernie Ecclestone says Ukrainian President Zelensky should have listened to Putin to avoid war because Putin 'is a sensible person'. pic.twitter.com/jZ1hLnrYTU

— Good Morning Britain (@GMB) June 30, 2022

this lad flew under Mason's radar for his pro Putin infosphere project

calzino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:06 (one year ago) link

aerodynamically speaking an F1 car is an extremely low-flying aircraft isn't it

imago, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:17 (one year ago) link

if only putin had been a woman...

koogs, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:24 (one year ago) link

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61976526

"Ukraine war: Johnson says if Putin were a woman he would not have invaded"

koogs, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:27 (one year ago) link

has he expressed an opinion on what the situation would be if his auntie had balls?

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:29 (one year ago) link

if Yeltsin had been a woman she would have drunk slightly less wine, bourbon and vodka every day.

calzino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:45 (one year ago) link

Like many Russians of his generation, Yeltsin considered beer a soft drink

calzino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 08:50 (one year ago) link

Yeah that was and is quite common I remember user SV explaining this to me when we were in Russia in 2008, that you might see beer for sale in kiosks etc as it wasn’t considered the same as other drinks.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:25 (one year ago) link

THis was quite good on teh history of beer and its various perspectives from different cultures.
https://open.spotify.com/show/1krsAvYm52tQPrHkP4XBNV?si=c2f049c4ff9d4787
Kate Lister talks about Czech grandmothers drinking beer with breakfast etc.

Stevolende, Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:27 (one year ago) link

Although vodka has long been the traditional tipple in Russia, beer has soared in popularity, being marketed as a healthier alternative to spirits.

heh!

calzino, Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:28 (one year ago) link

Ukraine might have something to say about Johnson's virtue signalling considering Catherine the Great.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:29 (one year ago) link

Karl May was still pretty huge amongst German boomers, the Winnetou movies were a big part of it. Never checked him out but have a vague idea he'd be progressive by classic western standards as a native american is the hero, tho I'm sure there's plenty of noble savage nonsense in there.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:37 (one year ago) link

Just catching up on this “If Putin was a woman” lmao WHAT?????

I thought we were all hysterical overly emotional and led by our feelings? You can’t have it both ways on that one Boris!

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:43 (one year ago) link

They've been doing this kind of trolling a lot lately, cf "opposing the deportations to Rwanda is racist".

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 June 2022 09:47 (one year ago) link

Textbook Truss: "I think that both women and men are capable of terrible and appalling acts."

nashwan, Thursday, 30 June 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link


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