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"The podcast was a bit of a fluke. There were not high hopes for it but it got some traction initially and attracted an audience the BBC struggles with. So it got pushed hard."

That would explain it. It's like how Adrian Chiles has a column in The Guardian where he shares hilarious anecdotes about going to the DIY shop to buy a table lamp. It's a strange fit.

She inspired this thread on DigitalSpy:
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/2324068/is-gemma-collins-the-biggest-star-in-britain-right-now

I think of DigitalSpy as Ilxor but without the irony or wit or knowledge or literacy or charm or sophistication or style or anything. And then I feel bad because I'm looking down at people who sincerely like television. What's wrong with that? As the commentators there point out that she seems to have been positioned as a latter-day Jade Goody, but an empty, manufactured Jade Goody without any of the genuine offensively or conversely any of the sincerity. She did apparently go to private school and stage school, but not the same schools that BBC employees go to.

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 27 June 2022 21:17 (one year ago) link

And, hey, Ilxor has a thread about Adrian Chiles:
Most pooterish Adrian Chiles column

Which popped up after Googling "adrian chiles" "private eye" guardian. I understand now why he has a column with The Guardian!

Quoth Alba:
https://i.imgur.com/Ujcmqcf.jpeg

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 27 June 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Gosh darn it:
https://i.imgur.com/Ujcmqcf.jpeg

Ashley Pomeroy, Monday, 27 June 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

Ashley Pomeroy, I don't know much about Digital Spy but I agree that it's nice to be nice to people who like TV. More specifically, there was a legendary ILM contributor, Robin Carmody, who would write very frequently with furious polemics against whatever people were saying on Digital Spy. I couldn't really tell why, but then he was an unusual character.

the pinefox, Monday, 27 June 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

I dunno if there's a word for the kind of lightweight talk radio DJs that take up way too much air time on 5 Live and presumably other stations, where the show is just blathering about fuck all interspersed with no mark media celebs and unfunny anecdotes and humblebrags from the listeners

example: Scott Mills and Chris Clark, Laura Whitmore, god knows how many more

anyway, what the fuck is that about? does any sentient being enjoy this shit?

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 08:18 (one year ago) link

Chris Stark, not Clark

Stark and Mills have been on Radio 1 in the afternoon for more than 10 years. this autumn they’re moving to Radio 2. A lot of people like them. It’s extremely “LadBible” radio.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 July 2022 09:11 (one year ago) link

Actual soccer coverage and discussion on 5live is now also suffused with "Banter" in a way it was not in the days of Mike Ingham.

I dislike it greatly, though I have a higher threshold for Chris Sutton than some do - finding him, in his way and on his day, quite shrewd and dry.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 09:22 (one year ago) link

Sutton and Savage are as bad as each other, playing the Talk Sport controvery trolling games

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:49 (one year ago) link

Savage has made 606 (which was already bad) completely unbearable. I remember about 13 years ago when he first co-presented it with Neil Warnock and he was so awful I thought he'd never get invited back again.

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

Savage is an utter moron, which Sutton isn't. Both unbearable, of course.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 July 2022 10:56 (one year ago) link

I haven't listened to it in ages but World Football Phone-In used to great, mainly because Tim Vickery is intelligent and very knowledgeable rather than fucking trying to kill us all with bantz

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:04 (one year ago) link

Dotun Adebayo is quite annoying though, but not enough to ruin the show

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:14 (one year ago) link

i am annoyed at the bbc because i went to watch the final of sewing bee on the pvr and got an hour of tennis instead. because 14 hours of tennis on one day isn't enough.

koogs, Saturday, 2 July 2022 11:31 (one year ago) link

Sutton is bad on 606 and plays a very bad role of trying to provoke people, with Savage, who is dire.

But Sutton on other programmes presents a somewhat different persona. In World Cup 2018 he even had a schtick of learning facts about the cultural history of Russian cities.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 15:35 (one year ago) link

Vickery is good in various ways. Think he is, oddly, a THFC fan, and also some kind of socialist.

the pinefox, Saturday, 2 July 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

He probably is a socialist because he grew up in Hemel Hampstead! Andy Brassell is decent as well, but he's another one who offers thoughtful observations rather than idiotic controversy and banter. The cricket coverage on 5 live is pretty good, but with football they feel like they need to do it *this* way.

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:27 (one year ago) link

another very fine Spurs fan being interview by Nick Robinson on R4 at the moment. joking obv

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Brassell is a Wimbledon fan, who are a much more likable club than Spurs!

calzino, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Best of BBC iPlayer

Young Brits selling Dubai real estate

DUBAI HUSTLE

A career change with a difference...

ROOKIE COPS

calzino, Sunday, 17 July 2022 07:36 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just reading this piece (by Robin) on Tim Westwood but managing to touch much else.

https://shirazsocialism.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/tim-westwood-how-should-the-left-respond/

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 August 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

Somewhat baffled by the reference to Tony Blackburn, who sounds exactly like what he is, an ex-public schoolboy who is a professional radio DJ, and always has done

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Monday, 1 August 2022 13:51 (one year ago) link

Actually John Peel is a much better comparison, with the manufactured accent and the somewhat dubious sexual history.

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Monday, 1 August 2022 14:02 (one year ago) link

Well the comparison to Blackburn is to do with the pushing of a strand of black music, and the early career in pirate stations but I get that it isn't a perfect fit.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 1 August 2022 20:42 (one year ago) link

What I must say to the mans and dems is the thing about the Westwood after party is the ladies

Westwood was more like Savile in the sense he seemed to be constantly in public confession mode, but in that bizarre posh English cunt pretending to be a homeboy from the projects syntax. But how the fuck did this cunt last so long? I grew up with white people who talked a bit like him. But they were mostly from a council estate parts that were like 30-40 % afro-caribbean and some of them only looked white but were part of extended black families or the kind of people who might just knock you out if you start talking about cultural appropriation to them! But this wanker got a free pass not just from the bbc, but from the UK black communities, from UK/US rap artists ... just how the fuck did he manage to pull this act off for so long - even before it came out he was a predatory paedophile.

calzino, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:19 (one year ago) link

That is such a weird article: it’s like someone mostly mastered the cultural tools and framework for making a reasoned long-form argument, but uses them to veer off into the strangest tangents, and take in personal long-standing assumptions, arguments and grievances that the author has had over the years.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

3/10 - please try again, and do not deviate from the exam question set by calzino just above.

Luna Schlosser, Monday, 1 August 2022 22:15 (one year ago) link

sorry but I can barely answer exam questions, never mind ask them! But I'm a whizz at quick crosswords and kakuru

calzino, Monday, 1 August 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link

radio 4 killing me with their trailers. especially the one for a mindfulness podcast which features some woman with a nails down chalkboard voice inducing in me the very opposite feeling to mindfulness.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 19:28 (one year ago) link

if it's the same voice I'm thinking of it's how I imagine Laura Barton would sound like when talking about borrowing a friend's 2nd/3rd home in the lake district for a few weeks to go on an inner journey of self-discovery only to find she had everything she ever wanted at her posh flat in London.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link

wait isn't that like 80 percent of Radio 4 voices?

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

absolutely is, but when promoting mindfulness in that voice there should be a trigger warning for people who might have a raging predisposition for class war!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

i think they just dose us with Ian McMillan in case of emergency

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

I fucking hate that Barnsley twat as well!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 20:59 (one year ago) link

even more tbh

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

90% of people in Barnsley don't even talk like that cunt

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:01 (one year ago) link

I once worked somewhere with a Barnsley twat with an affected accent like him and this other Barnsley person assured me it's 90% affected and pure bullshit.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

I'd forgotten that guy existed tbh.

Apologies to any lip readers (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:08 (one year ago) link

lol i love you calz

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

I heard him on the radio t'other day praising Sonny Rollins and i was SHOUTING back: fuck off cunt! You aren't permitted to like good people when you have a fake accent!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:09 (one year ago) link

he was the hired speaker at our end of year college rally once, alls i can say it was a refreshing break from the cunts with powerpoints

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

Emily...you are still a Tory...but thank you for this.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/aug/24/emily-maitlis-says-active-tory-party-agent-shaping-bbc-news-output?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

On Friday night HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR YOU? will run a special programme called HAVE I GOT NEWS FOR BORIS: A SPECIAL TRIBUTE.

the pinefox, Monday, 29 August 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link

there has also been a weekly saturday R4 program on Boris throughout this month and the only thing that has me changing stations faster is The Archers.

calzino, Monday, 29 August 2022 09:52 (one year ago) link

the title is so fucking chummy. encapsulates how the BBC has viewed him for over a decade. wot laughs ho ho.

oscar bravo, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:04 (one year ago) link

just the whole refer to him by his first name is such special treatment. don't remember a Teresa edition of this satirical program i haven't watched for decades.

oscar bravo, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

Jokes about him being an oversexed skirtchaser who couldn't keep it in his trousers were especially favoured iirc.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Monday, 29 August 2022 10:12 (one year ago) link

He owes the BBC a lot.

nashwan, Monday, 29 August 2022 10:30 (one year ago) link

Please retweet

I'd like to apologise for earlier tweets (now deleted) responding to Gary Lineker. I should have shown more consideration to a BBC colleague - as per the BBC’s social media guidelines.

— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) August 30, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Maitlis is a long way from being a Tory. xps

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link


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