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Many of her other lyrics seem both prosaic and "arbitrary" to me; it's a lot easier to communicate ideas in non-rhyming free verse, but I sometimes feel there's an artlessness about it that can seem lazy at worst.

i've had this thought and also, about the combination of prosaic lyrics and drone is and ultimately I feel it's her way of asserting her free-spiritedness, or a kind of wanderlust perhaps. She's advocating I think for a more "let your mind go and your body will follow" kind of approach to life, conventional meter is constricting and not very Bjork-like. Songcraft isn't the point, and the thing that's really nice about her format is that it leaves a lot of room for experimentation with arrangement and record production.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 27 June 2022 17:38 (one year ago) link

"Isobel" feels more like the heroine in a movie compared to the other songs.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 27 June 2022 17:40 (one year ago) link

"Debut" is actually my favorite album of hers, with the asterisk that i only really know the first 4.

What it comes down to I guess is the leaner mixes and arrangements, the way each track showcases a different instrumental color alongside her voice (Bollywood strings, a harp, a Salvation Army band, the ambience of the restroom at a nightclub), and gives those textures the space to really astonish. From "Post" she's filling out a lot more space with pads and distortions, and there's a terrific textural/tactile sense but it's less about one particular element. And that makes it easier to sample individual songs, because each one gives you a full color palette whereas with "Debut", you have to listen to the whole album to get that.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 27 June 2022 17:51 (one year ago) link

Her melodies were her own from the start, and she found the right keyboard sounds. Nothing sounded like "Big Time Sensuality" and "Crying."

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 June 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link

Yeah add those kbd presets to the list for sure.

Basically,

Debut = each song has a single, but supernaturally rich, dominant color and these combine to form the palette

Post = each song has a kaleidoscopic color pallette of its own, more or less

Homogenic = the whole album is monochromatic, as the title suggests

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

I think Bjork's indifference towards rhyming and meter was (certainly at that point of her career) a feature rather than a bug. Bjork's vocal melodies were so memorable and the sound of her voice so singular that I feel like more conventional songwriting could potentially feel more limiting. Bjork's performance approach already does the heavy lifting that might otherwise be carried by neat songwriting, such that when those two things are combined it doesn't necessarily create a net benefit.

In this regard, while "Isobel" works excellently, I actually find the formalism of the lyrics on "Bachelorette" to be a bit of a drawback (though don't get me wrong, it's a great song), it doesn't suit her and in my view creates more of a sense of distance between listener and performer, a sense of being sung down to.

Relatedly, I've long felt that "The Modern Things" was, if not necessarily the best song on Post, then perhaps the one that sums up the appeal of her work during this phase so consummately, the way it teeters between song and non-song but never gestures towards amelodic abstraction and never feels loosely structured (like, say, "Headphones", "All Neon Like" or much of her subsequent work), the way it teeters between lyrical meaning and glossolalia, the way the music sits in between various possible genres (albeit that this is common for Post) and veers between optimistic and eerie, and yet notwithstanding all of these things feels governed by a fierce internal logic.

Tim F, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:18 (one year ago) link

Post inspired my first published review!

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, December 19, 2008

College paper!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:30 (one year ago) link

Bjork's performance approach already does the heavy lifting that might otherwise be carried by neat songwriting, such that when those two things are combined it doesn't necessarily create a net benefit.

otm

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 02:39 (one year ago) link

Relatedly, I've long felt that "The Modern Things" was, if not necessarily the best song on Post, then perhaps the one that sums up the appeal of her work during this phase so consummately

In that it was intended for Debut but evolved in its approach going into Post, it's a best-of-both-worlds proposition too.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

modern things might be my favorite, the version of the family tree box is cool too.

brimstead, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link

OK, can we acknowledge that the sequence from "Army of Me" to "Isobel" is...astonishing?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:04 (one year ago) link

It seems a bit odd to cut it off there TBH.

Listening back to this album, one of the things that really struck me is how much emphasis there is on the arrangements mutating in line with the narrative development of the songs. This is perhaps a key distinction from Debut, where the songs' arrangements typically follow a more conventional verse/chorus structure.

In particular, "Hyper-Ballad", "The Modern Things" and "I Miss You" are almost relentlessly mutational, especially in their use of rhythm, but the same is true to a lesser extent of most of the other tracks as well (e.g. the arrangement on "Enjoy" would be at the more maximal end of Tricky co-productions of the era (though not atypically so), but then is capped off by Einar Orn's horn freakouts, which doesn't feel like something that would happen if it was actually a Tricky track).

The jackhammer beat punctuating the second verse of "I Miss You" is particularly indicative I think, a very literalised ramping-up of exuberant tension.

Homogenic really ran with this idea I think, the arrangements "telling a story" as much as the vocals and lyrics.

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link

OK, can we acknowledge that the sequence from "Army of Me" to "Isobel" is...astonishing?

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 28, 2022 7:04 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, this album blows my mind.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link

stand by my position above that "the modern things" is the best song here. it makes me cry.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 June 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link

In that it was intended for Debut but evolved in its approach going into Post, it's a best-of-both-worlds proposition too.

― Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 19:23 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

It would be fascinating to hear the pre-Debut versions of "Army of Me" and "The Modern Things". 808 State's Gorgeous from 1993 sounds rather more resolutely early-90s than Debut (kind of a mix of FSOL's Accelerator, Orbital's Green album and, um, Hyper-On Experience maybe?), so - unless Hooper had taken over co-production from Massey - it's difficult for me to imagine what they would have ended up sounding like if they'd ended up on Debut.

(meanwhile 808 State's Don Solaris from 1996 does sound like "Army of Me" and "The Modern Things", which raises the question as to how much if anything Bjork had to do with getting them to that sound)

Tim F, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:11 (one year ago) link

I don’t know if it’s that I’m not a native english speaker but the main attractive for me in his vocals is precisely how unusual and freeformed they are.

While I do appreciate more traditionally structured songs like Bachelorette or Isobel, her vocals sound more like broadway musical to my ears on those two songs and I find myself more interested in the arrangements than her actual vocals. Of course, she pulls it off effortlessly and I respect it but I don’t think I’d be much of a fan if that was her usual style.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:12 (one year ago) link

Her not his, sorry I suck at english pronouns

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:13 (one year ago) link

Anyways, Isobel. Great song, I love it. Glad it’s the only song in that style.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:14 (one year ago) link

Actually I think I ended up loving Post the most because every song feels very unique and different from the following one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 05:15 (one year ago) link


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