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Oh yeah, thanks. Think the first record of him playing trumpet was---Live At The Golden Circle? Rec. '65, released in '66. So several years of woodshedding or rumination, maybe. Also unrecorded or un(legit only?) issued performances from those years---?

There’s his 1962 Town Hall concert, but that wasn’t released until 1965. After that concert didn’t get the attention he’d hoped for, he didn’t perform or record for several years, but surely during that period he put in some serious time on the trumpet.

(Sorry, that was confusing: he didn’t play trumpet on the Town Hall show, but after that, didn’t play or record anything/anywhere for a few years.)

On a Bowie Tip, the entire "Let's Dance" concert is available on YouTube.

It's kind of like a Broadway revue.

Good singing is very much like acting, without all of the minutia and situational snags that might reveal a singer's shortcomings, but some singers have done quite well. Then again, so have comedians and other amateurs.

I’d be down for thread about good singers/musicians who are also good actors… seems like there is a lot of crossover there.

I relistened to "Sweet Thing/Candidate/Sweet Thing (Reprise)" and, yeah, he has such great ideas on guitar and sax.

When I first heard it nearly 30 years ago I thought Diamond Dogs was a dud but now I really like it.

Limmy singing Wrong Way Down a One Way Street>>>>anything by Bruce Springsteen

Limmy singing Take a Little Time>>>>Limmy singing Wrong Way Down a One Way Street>>>>anything by Bruce Springsteen

ah think it’s “doan”, like

The Phil Collins version of “You Can’t Hurry Love” has a better vocal performance than the Supremes version

boom

Take a look at me now!

now I imagine a Diana Ross cover of "Don't Lose My Number."

The only reason he covered that song was because he once saw someone hurrying love, and he wanted to invite them to his show and then make them die out of shame.

speaking of: her cover of “I Will Survive” was way better than her versions of her own hits at Glastonbury last weekend, but I doubt that controversial for anyone who’s watched that performance

xp re: Diana Ross

doubt that*’s* controversial

1998 is a terrible year for music, much worse than 1997 or 1999

I don’t know about much worse, but I agree it’s even weaker than those two. I’m a little surprised by the 1998 love on here, but a lot of it seems to be from folks who were a certain age around them.

*then

I was 15 in 1998 and can’t stand most of the shit they’re talking about in that thread lol

Watching Roisin Murphy's performance from Zagreb earlier this month, I think she's got the Bowie vibe but is far more talented and charismatic than he was.

u fiend

I don't think there's all that much love on the 1998 thread tbh!

I think most popstars are much more charismatic than Bowie

OK, that may be a little overstated.

I was glad to see ms Ross standing up and getting recognition and being able to tell that people liked her, but I can't say that she sang her songs well. I was also disappointed with the level of her skills at talking to a crowd. I would say "maybe she was nervous" if that didn't sound daft for someone so important.

Someone so important and experienced. She's been doing this since the late 50s.

I was glad to see ms Ross standing up and getting recognition and being able to tell that people liked her, but I can't say that she sang her songs well. I was also disappointed with the level of her skills at talking to a crowd. I would say "maybe she was nervous" if that didn't sound daft for someone so important.

Hasn't she always been terrible at crowd work (and human interaction in general)? I thought this was common knowledge.

Whitechocolatespaceegg >> Exile in Guyville

Oh, I totally agree with that

and I love EIG.

That is correct

no way in hell

Because everything is being reassessed lately, especially with nostalgia goggles...

"If You Could Only See" by Tonic has really pretty lead guitar in the chorus, and there is also this cool Swervedriver-esque guitar part that shows up a few times during a bridge.

Is this song well liked or hated? I really have no idea.

In general when it comes to radio-rock music composition, that bittersweet yearning 90s alt rock style is still more appealing to me than the "whoa-oh" car commercial style of the 00s, despite nostalgic bias.

no I’m with you, that is a great chorus

Tour De France Etapes > Autobahn

I hated the single before that one ("OPen Up Your Eyes"), so I was pleasantly surprised when "If You Could Only See" came out after it.

it screams 1997. nice little 70s pop/rock hook

Desire is a preferable album to Blood on the Tracks. The cover looks better, The rougher production sounds better, violin vs. harmonica is really no contest, and I love Emmylou's voice always everywhere. Blood has some stone cold classics on it for sure, but as a full album, Desire is a much better listening experience.

Agree re Desire, and re Kraftwerk, as an album Tour De France > Autobahn - it's actually my favourite Kraftwerk album.

Radio-Activity > Trans-Europe Express (mostly for "The Hall of Mirrors," which is an incredibly fucked up and depressing song) > Techno Pop > Autobahn > The Man-Machine > Computer World > Tour de France Soundtracks

I've never heard the first three albums and I don't care. And the first thing I heard was The Mix, and I still love it.

Every couple of years, Blondie comes up for re-consideration, and this week they're getting the deluxe box set treatment. Each time, I make a dutiful attempt, and one or two singles aside, I just...don't hear it. They might be the most musically minor canonized band I can think of.

My older brother brought Radio-Activity and The Man-Machine home after his high school art teacher used to play them in drawing class. They're certainly my favourite Kraftwerk albums, as a kid I thought it was only natural that you would start a record with two minutes of (synthesized) Geiger counter.

anyone who puts computer world second to last is a musical idiot imo

Blondie is one of the few bands I would spring for a deluxe box set of at this point in my life. My love for that band goes beyond reason. Of course, it has a lot to do with the time of my life I discovered them. I still remember, at 13 in 1978, dropping the needle on Parallel Lines and hearing Debbie launch into "Hanging on the Telephone." At that point in my life, I'd heard the Runaways, but I really didn't know women could make the kind of music Debbie was making. And I'll freely admit I was crushing on her hard--still am, truth be told.

I've had a couple posters on my Facebook wall bitch about that box set. Whatever.

Complaining about its existence? I think it’s cool if box sets are still happening for anyone! (but I also thought they were more of a holiday season thing)

This one has been a long time coming.

No -- complaining about Blondie (which I understand but don't share).

I’m not a big Blondie fan, but I didn’t realize they were considered to be bad & hated (by folks in general).