ppl are saying the knicks basically got the worst picks that OKC owned… plus they got the bucks first which is prob also not great. i would say in their defense that even not great first round picks give you flexibility in trades, ppl will take them on it’s not like they are worthless. and if the knicks use those in trades i could def see them improving their team more than if they would’ve just taken a guy at 11 which is prob like a 50/50 chance of getting a guy who can even hang in the NBA. if all they do with all this ammo is dump salary to give jalen brunson $130 million then never mind but it is feasible they make some moves that amount to more value than a low lottery rookie
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:01 (one year ago) link
11th pick has to be better than that. looking at the 10 11th picks from the 2010s, 8 or 9 made it as rotation players and 3 are all-star level players
― ciderpress, Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:25 (one year ago) link
my thought when they were acquiring all these picks was that it was gonna be ammo for a kyrie trade lol, which should show you how far into the black pit of negative expectations i have fallen
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
i always get nervous when teams are like “all the guys we liked were gone at 11.” really? all of them?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:07 (one year ago) link
its true, every draft there are only 10 good guys and they are always taken in the first 10 picks
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link
yeah teams should just accept that the draft is kind of a crapshoot and take a guy even if hes not their guy
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:48 (one year ago) link
but still lets be honest 4 seconds to move kembas small expiring contract is the craziest knicks move of the night
― lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:49 (one year ago) link
The Knicks trade is so weird that I can’t have an opinion on it
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link
luka and zion summer bod updates
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― Spottie, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:38 (one year ago) link
I feel like this is not justifiable for Jalen Brunson just on a moral standpoint tho. But Kyrie? Maybe
― Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:39 (one year ago) link
kyrie will elevate the knicks back to the 8 seed
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link
i say if you're the knicks you absolutely have to get kyrie it's your #1 option (for being weird and mediocre)
― Clay, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:42 (one year ago) link
kyrie on the knicks is something that should happen all things considered
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:44 (one year ago) link
We do deserve it
― Spottie, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:45 (one year ago) link
Kyrie to the lakers would do, as well
― Spottie, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:46 (one year ago) link
the lakers would be good but i feel like we pretty much know the general parameters of what could happen there, with the low stakes dysfunctional knicks i think we could see some novel kyrie behaviors
― lag∞n, Sunday, 26 June 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link
* re-signs with the Washington Wizards* https://t.co/5aobq7fplp— HEAT NATION (@Zachppp) June 23, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 01:19 (one year ago) link
the tone of the reporting around beal is changing quite a bit.....
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 01:36 (one year ago) link
pat riley on line 1 baby
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
heat are getting one of kyrie, durant, or beal this summer
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 02:11 (one year ago) link
i really don't get beal if he decides to return to the wizards. he's been there 10 years, they have no path to contention, if he ever wants to play important basketball he needs to force his way somewhere else, and nobody would blame him if he did
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
saw some article that was like the heat are monitoring the kyrie situation... so they can get durant
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:23 (one year ago) link
the miami heat should not have kevin durant on their team
― Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:25 (one year ago) link
though watching kd and butler feel each other out in their instant locker room blinking contest would make for a fun regular season
― Clay, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link
― Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:36 (one year ago) link
i posted the insider article about the suns draft process (wherein james jones admits he wouldn't have drafted devin booker) on the other thread. the fall for this team is going to be fast and hard. @thl3t1c C&P for people who don't support CONTENT CREATORZ
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 02:38 (one year ago) link
Maybe Kyrie could have, you know, explained himself
Kevin Durant is losing faith in Nets management and their handling of Kyrie Irving situation, per @loganmmurdock “[KD] feels that the front office didn’t grow to understand Kyrie.” pic.twitter.com/xXX6N0YUGG— Top Ball Coverage (@TopBallCoverage) June 26, 2022
― Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 03:36 (one year ago) link
xp seems like an approach that will get you to .500 consistently but not further
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link
Omg it would be amazing if a disgruntled Simmons is left alone on the Nets.
― Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Monday, 27 June 2022 11:18 (one year ago) link
lol that suns piece does not sound like the best way to do it
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
i think theres actually some truths in there but the overall approach sounds bad
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:02 (one year ago) link
the i would have not drafted our best player part idk maybe reconsider
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:07 (one year ago) link
guy is freerolling with a team built by someone else acting like hes the nba wizard
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
when you can only put 5 guys on the court having at least one who's way way better than average is essential to winning and i don't know how you get there without drafting for upside when you are phoenix and not The Lakers
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:15 (one year ago) link
i do think its possible that a team that didnt invest much in draft scouting could keep up with the league by taking the consensus best available guy in the draft every time but thats very different from intentionally reaching for old guys
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:25 (one year ago) link
yeah but youre trying to be better than the rest of the league and there are teams that consistently draft better you have to try to be one of those teams, and its not like youre saving anything besides some salaries jones reason was he doesnt want too many people at a meeting, thats clown shit man lol bozo time
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:30 (one year ago) link
i think theres an underlying hypothesis here that no one has actually beaten the draft by a significant margin, which is untestable because theres only one draft per year and thats not enough drafts
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link
Bozo's grand prize game was more advanced than hoops
― Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:53 (one year ago) link
love jones thinking "i'll just turn phx into miami west!" this will definitely keep working for them
― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 27 June 2022 14:04 (one year ago) link
it might, but only because they already have a good player they would not draft
― ciderpress, Monday, 27 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
at least miami has a strong player development program, jones sounds like he's not even interested in that
― call all destroyer, Monday, 27 June 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link
james jones sounds like a college sophomore explaining bitcoin, and also a republican
― k3vin k., Monday, 27 June 2022 15:59 (one year ago) link
ok i gotta read this now lol
― Spottie, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link
i do think there was something interesting in the theory of what he was saying about cutting down on the number of reports, having a smaller draft board, being more intentional about scouting etc … but (as you guys note) the underlying objective of only finding win now players is crazy & you can’t really run an NBA team that way. also ultimately it’s hard to shake the feeling that the entire objective is being driven more than anything by sarver being cheap. the tail is kinda wagging the dog herealso the jalen smith pick is the real fly in the ointment. he was a skinny raw center who they way overdrafted and it based on this they legitimately thought he was going to step in right away — whoops — to be their… back up center? from both an evaluation and process POV it was just monumentally dumb. meanwhile they passed on halliburton who was the same age and was immediately good in the NBA. maybe he wasn’t even on their board!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
also the whole thing about not sending scouts out to games because it’s better for them to be around the team… does he know about league pass? you can watch the games from other states now, it’s really nice
― J0rdan S., Monday, 27 June 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
ESPN Sources: Outside of the Lakers, there are currently no known teams planning pursuit of sign-and-trades for Nets G Kyrie Irving. No sign-and-trades can be formally discussed until after 6 PM on Thursday. Brooklyn isn't believed to have interest in available Lakers packages.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2022
Tee hee hee
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 June 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
If Irving declines his $36M player option, he would be eligible to sign with the Lakers for the $6M exception. Deadline is Wednesday to decide on option.— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) June 27, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link
kyrie forgot to factor in the whole just not playing basketball for three years because you didnt feel like it will make you less desirable to nba teams part into his plan to get two hundred million dollars
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:37 (one year ago) link
feel like there should be a graphic for the games last year where he just didnt bother to tell the nets he wasnt coming in
Kyrie In Brooklyn pic.twitter.com/nQRJCBBY9o— Kirk Goldsberry (@kirkgoldsberry) June 24, 2022
― lag∞n, Monday, 27 June 2022 16:38 (one year ago) link