2022 NBA OFF SEASON DRAFT FREE AGENCY TAMPERING ETC

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that sounds like a you problem...

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

ahahaha i have my doubts about sharpe though, but mostly because i have no idea how to project him based on his limited run.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

if he's as dynamic an athlete and scorer as people say he is then i think it was prob a no brainer pick for them

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:23 (one year ago) link

mike schmitz who obv just got hired by the blazers wrote the little scouting blurb for espn on sharpe, kinda interesting to read now

Outlook: This latest viewing was a reminder of just how physically talented and skilled Sharpe truly is, and there's a real argument to be made that he's the best perimeter prospect in this 2022 class, should he opt to enter and stay in the draft. Depending on what you think of prospects like Jabari Smith, Chet Holmgren, Paolo Banchero and Jaden Ivey, you could make a case that he has as much long-term upside as anyone, especially with NBA teams clamoring for perimeter players who can create offense for themselves and others at all 3 levels. While I mentioned players like Anthony Edwards and Jalen Green in our Sharpe deep dive, Paul George is a name that came to mind when watching Sharpe practice. While George is clearly much taller (6-9 to Sharpe's 6-6) and more wing than guard, Sharpe is that smooth and skilled of a scorer with the potential to develop into a reliable playmaker and defender like George has. They also have a similar on-court demeanor. With all that in mind, Sharpe is truly one of the most fascinating prospects in this draft because of his immense talent yet the act that we've never truly seen him in a competitive setting with several do-or-die possessions. Even so, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sharpe ultimately go in the top-5 of the 2022 NBA draft should he opt to stay in as it'll be incredibly difficult for teams who have seen him in person to pass on his combination of physical tools and talent on the perimeter. -- Mike Schmitz

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

looks like the hawks doubled down on the great shooter/shady defense strategy with AJ Griffin

Heez, Friday, 24 June 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

I'm just saying that 'amazing vertical leaping ability' is a pretty marginal NBA skill. Same thing for 'off the charts athleticism', which all the articles also say about Sharpe. Basically, the people writing these articles don't know what else to say because what else can you say about a guy who's played so little?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 18:41 (one year ago) link

I'm just saying that 'amazing vertical leaping ability' is a pretty marginal NBA skill. Same thing for 'off the charts athleticism'

well, i don't think is true. most NBA players are obv exceptional athletes, but if you're "off the charts" even by those standards that still matters. ja morant, anthony edwards, early westbrook, early lebron are all guys that come to mind as unusually athletic players whose athleticism matters (or mattered) greatly in terms of being great basketball players. of course you need a certain level of skill and effort and all that but if you can jump higher than all of your opponents that gives you a huge advantage in basketball

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

yeah, thats p key. if they're teachable, they can do things that other players cant.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

looks like the hawks doubled down on the great shooter/shady defense strategy with AJ Griffin

― Heez, Friday, June 24, 2022 1:32 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

im not surprised he fell that low and i guess if you plan on moving heurter, itd be helpful to have a guy who can shoot, but i think thats all griffin can do. his defense wasnt just shaky, it was awful. he'll be a bench shooter if he cant fully rehab from all the injuries he's had.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:11 (one year ago) link

yeah not holding out much hope for the kid

Heez, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

the guy who fell that i cant believe is ej liddell, he was projected in the 20s, maybe even teens, but went 41 to new orleans. undersized PF, but a good weak-side defender and had developed outside range. got some millsap to his game.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Friday, 24 June 2022 19:23 (one year ago) link

good luck

“Rob Pelinka says he and Davin Ham have had multiple meetings with Russell Westbrook and have been honest about Russ' role on the team and that he needs to be a defense-first player.”

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— Hoop Central (@TheHoopCentral) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link

lmao excellent photo choice

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

yeah re shaedon sharpe he was the #1 prospect for next years draft before he reclassified, seems like a pretty good risk at 7 to me

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link

indiana should have gone after him, they need someone with upside

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

as someone who doesn't follow this closely at all, are nba cap/draft pick/contract shenanigans the most complicated in sports?

it's crazy to me how everyone is always dealing six future draft picks, half of them protected, in a three-team trade, so they can buy out the actual player they receive

also that despite all this the lakers are still stuck with russ

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:24 (one year ago) link

i dont follow the other sports enough to really know what is most complicated but it does seem like the nba is

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link

seems like a pretty good risk at 7 to me

I don't disagree. The most heartening thing I've read about Sharpe so far is that Dame watched all the guys who worked out for the Blazers and he was enthused about picking him. I presume the private work-out and personal interviews for the team contained a lot more info about him, his abilities and his mindset than anyone in the media has access to. All the media types can analyze is what's out in public.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 24 June 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link

the nfl has some weird stuff with all of the contract restructuring you can do to move money around, but the nba is probably still much more complex than that.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

always assumed it's a little more loosey goosey in the other leagues bc the rosters are so much larger so there needs to be wiggle room for the 40 guys on the team nobody knows about

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:34 (one year ago) link

in baseball you can’t even trade normal draft picks (‘competitive balance’ picks are an exception)

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:36 (one year ago) link

thats crazy trading draft picks is so sweet the fans go wild for it

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:37 (one year ago) link

nba is definitely overly complex with the roster rules, a bunch of it is old rules that had a purpose at one point but might no longer that have ossified and accumulated

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

baseball draft is way more of a crapshoot than nba anyway 1st round picks wouldnt be worth as much there

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:39 (one year ago) link

The situation between the Nets and Kyrie Irving is getting acrimonious, per @wojespn on NBA Today.

— Evan Sidery (@esidery) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

that’s a shame

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:47 (one year ago) link

sending light and love

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

wild

Pistons have presented Jaden Ivey with jerseys of his grandfather, father and mother, all of whom have played in Detroit professionally.

Ivey is tearing up

— James Edwards III (@JLEdwardsIII) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 20:51 (one year ago) link

i don't think the NBA is any more or less complex than other leagues when it comes to roster rules -- the rules about service time and minor league options and trigger deadlines in MLB are far more complex than the two way system in the NBA -- but putting protections on picks is unique to the NBA. part of that is because the other sports don't have lotteries so you're dealing w/ an extra level of uncertainty w/ future NBA picks, but i think it also is done to purposefully facilitate transactions which is overall a net positive for the league even if it becomes overly complex a lot of the time. in baseball you have prospects driving most transactions but the NBA doesn't have that element, instead picks are the currency and allowing teams to protect picks obviously makes them feel more comfortable about trading (and also receiving) picks

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 20:53 (one year ago) link

the crazy thing about the NBA to me is that teams are seemingly allowed -- if they can -- to invent new ways to structure contracts and protect picks... like the rules are not already set out. it's kind of a wild west where if you and the other team agree on a way to protect the pick then the league will agree to it. thinking of i.e. daryl morey inventing the reverse protection in trading kyle lowry to the raptors. also daryl inventing the poison pill w/ the jeremy lin offer sheet

J0rdan S., Friday, 24 June 2022 20:57 (one year ago) link

I read that Kyrie has a list of teams to which he will accept a sign and trade, a list that includes the Sixers and I'm just trying to imagine the look on Harden's face if that somehow happened.

the list of teams that want to trade for him got to be a lot shorter

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

who is going to put up with kyrie at this point that is also not a desperate loser of a franchise

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:11 (one year ago) link

its only the lakers

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:13 (one year ago) link

NHL does have a lottery and picks can be traded, but the market isn't as hectic as the NBA. clearly it needs a daryl morey

(when its cap first came in there was a spate of like 12-year hugely front-loaded contracts -- because the cap hit was salary average per year -- but the league soon closed that loophole)

mookieproof, Friday, 24 June 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

oh boy haha

Creep by Radiohead but it’s about being drafted by the Sacramento Kings

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— Isaac K. Lee (@IsaacKLee) June 24, 2022

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

lol ok

Steve Clifford reportedly will return to coach Charlotte Hornets https://t.co/Hg9SltX5ij

— Kurt Helin (@basketballtalk) June 24, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link

What on earth

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 22:56 (one year ago) link

hornets quickly becoming the most indecipherable team

― ciderpress, Thursday, June 23, 2022 9:44 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

ciderpress, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:10 (one year ago) link

How could they not find somebody new lmao what a mess

Spottie, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:13 (one year ago) link

not sure about this guy michael jordan

Clay, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:27 (one year ago) link

dont know much about him will research

lag∞n, Friday, 24 June 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

they should hire a guy named Will Research

Heez, Saturday, 25 June 2022 01:37 (one year ago) link

Russ broke the cardinal sin and acknowledged skip

Yoooo… watch your mouth. Don’t say anything here you wouldn’t say to my face. https://t.co/0u8nFXYLY8

— Russell Westbrook (@russwest44) June 25, 2022

Spottie, Saturday, 25 June 2022 03:37 (one year ago) link

honestly, westbrook fighting skip in person is just what this league needs

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Saturday, 25 June 2022 03:41 (one year ago) link

just finding out the thunder took guys named jaylen williams and jaylin williams

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:09 (one year ago) link

also reflecting upon the fact that the knicks traded a first and four seconds to get rid of kembas $9m expiring contract??

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:12 (one year ago) link

look at this trade it does even have a knicks receive section

Charlotte receives:

• 2023 first-round pick (from Denver via Oklahoma City and New York)
• 2023 second-round pick (via New York)
• 2023 second-round pick (via Utah)
• 2023 second-round pick (most favorable of Dallas/Miami)
• 2024 second-round pick (via New York)

Detroit receives:

• 2022 draft rights to Jalen Duren (via Charlotte)
• Kemba Walker (via New York)

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:16 (one year ago) link

isnt one second round pick more like the usual price to dispose of a expiring mid level contract

lag∞n, Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:19 (one year ago) link

That doesn't list the other two firsts NYK received iiuc.

Am I doomposting? I would say you’re not doomposting enough. (PBKR), Saturday, 25 June 2022 12:23 (one year ago) link


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