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JRN, thinking back on this, I realized this may not have been clear - basically, broadly, in 18th and 19th century classical music, there is a kind of shared language where chords follow a certain syntax where every chord in a key is assigned a particular role (function) in a progression, like words have different grammatical functions, so there are tonic chords like I that connote stability and rest at beginnings and ends of phrases, dominant chords like V that connote tension and anticipation and seek resolution to I, and predominant chords like ii and IV that build towards dominant from tonic, and progressions move in a certain direction from one to the other; other chords can substitute for these, there are ways to prolong or elaborate on the various parts of a progression. Tin Pan Alley era pop still follows these rules for the most part a lot of the time but a lot of rock and contemporary pop doesn't, exactly, even when it uses these chords (though there is plenty that does!).

Thank you. I did look into functional harmony a little bit after your previous post about it, but no explanation I found was as clear as this one.

JRN, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link

Big Boi has to be thinking about dropping that Kate Bush collab that he has in the can.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

cody
tie between never hungover again and the s/t
tie between million dollars to kill me and 40 oz to fresno
of all things i will soon grow tired (hate to be someone who thinks of this particularly weird charming little record (in a catalog of weird charming little records) as their worst but something has to be)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

oh lol wrong thread

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link

I remember when this came out, I remember playing it in the car and taking it so personally.

I'm happy it's a big hit, but that's to the credit of the younger generation.

Listening to it now it just doesn't feel so personal and I feel a sense of loss but maybe I was just too young and sensitive then.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Sunday, 26 June 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link

Also, I know about a stalker who sent this song to her victim.

Ew.

One of the unintended consequences of increased visibility is that something's intention can be perverted.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Sunday, 26 June 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link

But it's great to think of utter cads listening to lines like "unaware I'm tearing you asunder".

Although not sure it means anything anymore.

I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Monday, 27 June 2022 03:11 (one year ago) link

I feel lucky to still be about as solipsistic about Kate Bush as I was in junior high.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Monday, 27 June 2022 04:23 (one year ago) link

Looking like Metallica could be next in line to benefit from Stranger Things

groovypanda, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 08:00 (one year ago) link

apparently Spellbound is getting traction, which I heard about before finishing the series so I kept wondering when it was showing up (it's over the end credits of the last episode)

akm, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:19 (one year ago) link

"At least one of the concerts was filmed and there was supposed to be a Blu-ray released but she changed her mind for some reason."

Jon Carin (who is annoying AF on FB but occasionally lets out some interesting info) stated in a comment on FB that the film turned out very poorly (direction, I guess) which is why it didn't get released.

akm, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

I'd heard from a person at the record company that she wasn't happy with the way she looked.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:32 (one year ago) link

given that people were talking about her weight when the shows were happening, I'm not surprised; people are awful

akm, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link

So true, and she looked fucking amazing on stage, the gig was incredible.

MaresNest, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link

Looking like Metallica could be next in line to benefit from Stranger Things

― groovypanda, Wednesday, July 6, 2022 4:00 AM bookmarkflaglink

I mean, it'll be a boost, sure, but Metallica is kind of already a cult worldwide by this point.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:59 (one year ago) link

at my last poker game the topic of Kate Bush was brought up. these people still listen to the Bloodhound Gang for god's sake. so yeah it's definitely catching on

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:03 (one year ago) link

Oh I know that but think their highest ever chart placing single is #5 for Enter Sandman xp

groovypanda, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link

I finally heard "Running..." on top 40 radio last Friday! A much abridged version, though.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link

After weeks on the charts now "Running Up that Hill" is at 357 million Spotify streams--"Master of Puppets" was already at 430 million before appearing in ST

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

these people still listen to the Bloodhound Gang

still? I didn't know people did this past one week in 1997

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:14 (one year ago) link

I think the Bloodhound Gang have moved on to foreign policy circles:

On July 30, 2013, during a concert in Kyiv, Ukraine, band member Jared Hasselhoff was seen urinating on the flag of Ukraine while on stage.[27] The incident drew outrage from local politicians,[28] and the band faced criminal charges of hooliganism. Days later, after an onstage stunt involving the flag of Russia in Odessa, where Hasselhoff stuffed the flag down the front of his pants and pulled it out of the back, the band's show in Anapa, Russia was cancelled, and the band members were assaulted at the airport, including being pelted with eggs and rotten tomatoes. A flag of the United States was also trampled and spat on.

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:21 (one year ago) link

i have heard it on the radio a couple more times now. its airplay is now quite a bit stronger (not on the level of most current hits, but still) and its streaming has surged following the premiere of the rest of the season to the extent that it will probably reach a new chart peak in america and could even challenge for the top

dyl, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

seriously heard a little robo-intro-clip on a radio station say "playing nothing but today's best new hits! kate bush, running up that hill" before the song and... well okay

bule bulak oying (cat), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link

cat, hi.

friendly reminder that time doesn't exist.

"WYNT: today's biggest hits: all catalogue music, all the time. why not?"

this revival thing just keeps getting better, i say.

It's everywhere even when it's not. Listening to Tim Hecker's "In Mother Earth Phase" and feeling like I'm hearing it subtly...

Evan, Friday, 8 July 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

For what it's worth I only know of the Bloodhound Gang from the "here comes Pac-Man" video that was popular a while back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyDG6y08YOA

As for the word "asunder", that's one of those words that was in the UK Transformers comic a lot:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Special:Search?search=asunder

Simon Furman had a distinctive way with words. It is over - finished. That was one of his stock phrases. Furmanisms. He's not invincible. He can be hurt. I must not - will not - die. Etc.

Which raises the question of whether Kate Bush was a rotten plagiarist who drew all of her ideas from the UK Transformers comic. I have a distinct childhood memory of reading an issue while watching Live Aid live on the television, and judging by the Wiki above that must have been issue 22, which was published on the very same day as Live Aid:
https://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/3/3a/MarvelUK-022.jpg

Meanwhile Kate Bush was putting the finishing touches on Hounds of Love. The album was written and recorded during the first year of the Transformers' G1 pre-rubsign heyday. I refuse to believe that it didn't influence her. Transformers was massive! Do you remember when Soundwave was the leader of the Decepticons? Megatron wasn't released in the UK until a year later. Originally Soundwave was the leader of the Decepticons, at least on the back of the toy boxes, and that's where "The Ninth Wave" comes from.

Ashley Pomeroy, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

hi Austin!! time! from the beginning of time people been asking, what time is it? do u have the time? wtf even is time? is time a thing? radio station robo intro voice has pounded the final nail into the coffin of time as a concept. the tyranny of time is broken at last, we are free, thank you based kate bush, took u long enough

i REFUSE to pay for my own cbd (cat), Saturday, 9 July 2022 18:52 (one year ago) link

Ashley — it never ends.

carson dial, Saturday, 9 July 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

I heard RUTH on the hit radio station today. They introed it with “We keep you safe from the Upside Down”

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Sunday, 10 July 2022 00:27 (one year ago) link

[looks around, sees no monsters] mr presidetn i would like to buy your radio station

i REFUSE to pay for my own cbd (cat), Sunday, 10 July 2022 04:28 (one year ago) link

Kate Bush couldn't save Earth - what chance to we have? She now has power - beyond measure! We thought she was dead - we killed her! She swooped into the charts like some great predatory bird - of the two-legged variety!

And so forth. Also the theme song for Transformers: The Movie was "The Touch", by Stan Bush. It's obvious that the film-makers wanted to hire Kate Bush instead, but they couldn't remember who she was. "The Touch" even sounds like a Kate Bush song title.

Oh, I give up. There isn't a formal connection between Kate Bush and the Transformers franchise. The problem with building a joke of this nature is that there needs to be something, some plausible-sounding link between the two, and there isn't any. The toy franchise's heyday happened in the gap between two of Kate Bush's albums, and although the UK Marvel comic was highly-rated it didn't have much influence over the franchise as a whole. Its creative hearts were in the US, where Kate Bush was a non-entity, and to a much lesser extent Japan, where I understand she had a small cult following. There are no photos of Kate Bush sitting in the studio with a row of Transformers toys in the background.

As a kid I always felt sorry for girls because they had such crap toys. Kate Bush grew up in that era. Who knows how she might have turned out if her parents had bought her an AT-AT or something. The other kids would have flocked to play with her AT-AT and she would have learned at an early age that people only value you for what you have, not who you are. But as a girl she probably learned that when she hit puberty. Who knows. They're unknowable.

Still, it amuses me that a thread about Kate Bush has degenerated into a mixture of half-baked jokes and a couple of posts by I REFUSE etc that are so baffling I can't tell whether they're relevant or not. It's like when Ilxor threads start going on about "Bruenig stans". I mean, what?

Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 10 July 2022 17:00 (one year ago) link

Just heard RUTH twice on the radio in cabs in Mexico City last week. She's saturating globally at this stage. You love to see it!

octobeard, Sunday, 10 July 2022 18:39 (one year ago) link

Right, that's it she's touring Mexico next year ..

Mark G, Sunday, 10 July 2022 18:55 (one year ago) link

sorry Ashley! i am being a nonsense and you can safely ignore me

i REFUSE to pay for my own cbd (cat), Sunday, 10 July 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link

Wait she’s doing a concert in Mexico? When? I can’t find info

✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

I think that was a joke

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

Opening for Morrissey

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:15 (one year ago) link

she is not playing in Mexico, that was a joke. i do not believe Kate Bush will get on an airplane.

akm, Monday, 11 July 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link

she's coming via Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

people have been saying that Kate Bush is touring in Mexico. It's a thing that's out there.

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Monday, 11 July 2022 19:57 (one year ago) link

I mean, some of the old second-tier prog acts are doing cruises. It's a thing.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 11 July 2022 20:00 (one year ago) link

katarina arbusto's cover is blown

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 11 July 2022 20:05 (one year ago) link

genuine lol @ Neanderthal

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Monday, 11 July 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrg1UAixGaM

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 16:51 (one year ago) link

"sorry Ashley! i am being a nonsense and you can safely ignore me"

No, don't apologise. It worked brilliantly. Your posts were like the little air snips that hairdressers make when they cut your hair in between the actual cutting snips. They were the gaps between notes in a jazz record. They were Spike Milligan in Life of Brian suddenly appearing from nowhere. You were a brilliant little cameo appearance. And I envy you, because you possess something that I do not. Spontaneity, and sincerity. A genuine connection with the irrational subconscious.

I have struggled all my life against rationality. My subconscious is trapped in a hard outer shell. I am envious of people who are not rational, or who can tap into the irrational world. People who can break that shell. They have a completely different strategy for survival and are wired differently. I can only observe them, and mimic them, just as we can only observe Kate Bush, and mimic her - or covet her.

It's often said that we spend our whole lives trying to recapture the sensation we had when we did something for the first time. When we played Pac-Man for the first time, or saw Jennifer Connelly in Labyrinth for the first time. We spend our lives trying to recapture that but it doesn't work because our nerves get tired and wear out. We have to keep snorting bigger and bigger lines of cocaine to get the same hit until eventually we're like mosquitoes swallowing whole chunks of DDT. You managed to capture that without breaking a sweat. I could never do what you do.

Ashley Pomeroy, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link

And if I only could.....

Mark G, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link

Heard "Hill" on the regular radio today for the first time, on the lite FM channel. I agree a decade or so of music inspired by this strain of '80s music really set the stage for this resurgence.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:18 (one year ago) link

Alek Manoah is an All-Star on the mound and the mic 😅@Alek_Manoah6 | #AllStarGame

(via @MLB) pic.twitter.com/SezYSMukPL

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) July 20, 2022

i do believe that is RUTH on the organ at the mlb all-star game

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 04:57 (one year ago) link

well that rules.

off the thread topic, but it's amazing that baseball has crossed over into interviews with players who are actively playing in the game.

i know this is the all-star game, but i saw them talking to an outfielder the other night.

alpine static, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 06:19 (one year ago) link


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