LCD Soundsystem

Same energy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otc8CboPT2s

Where are your apes tonight??

bathing

NFT Soundsystem

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just listened again for the first time in several years ... didn't get it back then, didn't get it when they were brand new and don't get it now.

what am i missing?

best thing i can come up with is i was born too early ('76) for this to hit right.

Nah, I was born in 1975 and it's fine. Think of it as an extended post-modern remix of all your favorite post-punk and art-pop or what have you all at once.

They have a greatest-hits collection worth of classic songs. Like the Cars, say. (Ducks before the Cars stans start throwing things.)

They just announced some shows in Chicago - I saw them in November and it was awesome, more than made up for the last time I saw them when their equipment malfunctioned and they kept stopping the show in mid-song.

they're reasonably good at synthesising all their hip 70s/80s post-punk/art rock influences into something distinct and compelling (if derivative, sometimes far too blatantly). they're at their best when the exact mix of reference points isn't so obvious though

I dunno, I think they're often pretty good when they're obvious. Like on "Home" or "All I Want."

I tend to conflate them with the whole DFA stable. Those DFA compilations were crucial listening for me at the time.

Those comps were super cool, not least the LCD tracks. I guess what set LCD apart is that they actually managed a few solid full-lengths as well.

Yeah, and their sensibility shaped the whole label.

This prompted me to put on the 2nd DFA comp, which I'm enjoying. So many good tracks.

DFA drum sound is all time. Hi-hat

DFA also responsible for one of my favorite-ever ilm threads: What the hell, let's all SING "House of jealous lovers"

what set LCD apart is that they actually managed a few solid full-lengths as well.

Juan has about 20 solid full-lengths, EPs, and EP-length 12”s

I remember when that DFA comp came out and there’s the remastered/re-recorded version of “Optimo” on it and I thought “this is all I want is for Tim G to produce new Liquid Liquid music”

"Bellhead"!

https://i.imgur.com/xr8iix4.jpeg

I still like and listen to LCD Soundsystem, but wow, Losing my Edge hits differently at 44 than it did at 22.

My mistake I just woke up!!

LCD Soundsystem is such a time/place thing for me, like I discovered that first record when I got into college, Sound of Silver around when I hit legal drinking age, and This is Happening when I was really going out a lot, so all three of those records bring back a lot of (mostly good) memories. But I haven't really been interested in relistening to them.

“Losing My Edge” remains one of my favourite recordings of all time

The later songs that were upthread described as “post-modern remixes of your favourite songs” in fact have all the appeal of the Counting Crows cover of “Big Yellow Taxi” or that recent cover of “Fast Car” or that awful New Radicals cover; yet somehow worse than all of these because people seem to like them? They make me feel something profound, not sadness or anger or boredom but a lack of emotion, like a vacuum of feeling, an overwhelming null

I like “Yeah” tho, too. I listened to the Nike album while working out and it was nice, I liked the instrumental version of “Someone Great”. I never liked “Daft Punk” but I heard it again a month ago and it was better than I remembered.

what songs in particular you referring to?

I have thankfully scrubbed them, but “the song that sounds like “Heroes”” and “the song that sounds like “Needle In The Camel’s Eye”” and others. They were legacy-souring to me, turned me off the band like piss in the soup

which is the one that is a "needle in the camel's eye" pastiche

those could both be "All I Want"

think for that one he at least adds enough new stuff that it stands on its own, also I guess the fact that he was able to ape one of the best songs ever is pretty impressive. the ones that bother me are the two on American Dream which sound like Remain in Light outtakes, particularly since one imitates Belew's very distinct "Born Under Punches" solo. like the one big strike against this band is they copy Talking Heads too much, idk why they decided to do that, especially on an album that's too long as it is

Ya, it was “White Light, White Heat” (aka Drunk Girls)

All I Want is “Heroes” with the guitar part from “Here Come The Warm Jets”

I hate it

I started to hear other covers in other songs that may or may not have been there. That song “Home” sounds like a David Byrne cover to my ears. (Is it? It sounds so much like something). “All My Friends” idk I got it in my head that he was trying to do a synth cover of “Where The Streets Have No Name” and I couldn’t un-U2ify my ears afterward

It’s like when somebody gets disgraced for plagiarism and then you just assume everything they’ve ever written is a lift, I guess

i attempted a discog run with these guys last year. early singles and first album are still great and fun. after that... i really love "someone great." that's it unfortunately

juan maclean, however, nothing but excellence

"home" is definitely inspired by "this must be the place" but it's not blatant enough to annoy me, i like it

the reference points of "all my friends" are pretty obviously new order (specifically "temptation") + eno but that synthesis works very well, it isn't blatantly ripping any one thing

It's been really entertaining the whiplash of sentiment turn on Murphy so completely. Short of someone staining their legacy through non-musical things (Morrissey, dude from Arcade Fire), I can't think of many artists since 2000 that have been turned on like this.

My opinion remains pretty much the same since the start - some incredible stuff and some really turgid stuff.

ugh, "watching the whiplash"

I find it amusing he actually covered "Jump Into the Fire" by Nilsson because when I first heard that song my thought was "ah, that's where LCD got it from"

dunno if "Home" cribs a Byrne song, but I like it better than any solo Byrne I've heard, for what that's worth. there is probably a site out there dedicated to compiling all the LCD references out there, similar to how they do for Daft Punk and Stereolab. the one that surprised me was "Dance Yrself Clean" being mostly cribbed from a very obscure 12 inch someone found, idk why but something about that bothered me. like maybe he thought he could get away with that one. Daft Punk did that a lot too.

ivy., I did the exact same and felt the exact same

I can’t decide if I like or dislike his MES impressions on “Edge” and “Daft Punk”, I think in the end I like it

I need to listen to Juan Mclean, it seems

This 2003 Fader article about the Rapture is interesting because it's kind of right on the cusp, when "House of Jealous Lovers" broke through. DFA here is only discussed as a record label — albeit one with a tremendous amount of input into its artists' releases. Lots of discussion of Murphy and Goldsworthy, but not even a mention of LCD Soundsystem. "The Rapture is DFA's flagship band," lol sure.

https://www.thefader.com/2015/09/17/cover-story-the-rapture-issue-15

idk i still really like the first album + early singles, sound of silver is pretty good, and even this is happening has its moments, just he gets more blatant/less creative with his inspirations as things go on and everything suffers for it

I think of the references and ripoffs sort of like cheeky sampling.

would you like to hear an old iggy pop song with worse vocals and lyrics

Sampling is already cheeky! Sampling is post-modern. Cribbing is not cheeky. I get as bothered on this topic about Schnittke Symphony 1 as I do about “Drunk Girls”

Xp lol otm

early singles and first album are still great and fun. after that... i really love "someone great." that's it unfortunately

― ivy., Tuesday, January 30, 2024 10:20 AM (twenty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

juan maclean, however, nothing but excellence

― ivy., Tuesday, January 30, 2024 10:21 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Agree with both of these posts.

Still think "Yeah" is one of the best tracks of the 00s, so I still consider myself a fan of this band

Has he ever talked about ripping off bands in interviews? Like, does he go up to his bandmates and say this one is like David Bowie, or this one is like talking heads?

Writing a new song over a replay of an old song felt more interesting before every big pop song was doing this (or at least including blatant references to big hits of the past). Looking at it charitably, it's not that different from Jamaican "versions" and sometimes results in great songs (sometimes not).

The Dance Yrself Clean / Jamaica Running thing was pretty sus if they didn't credit the songwriters/publishers right off.

Always thought the most effective aspect of LCD was the sense of time and place - the 2000s stuff captures the feel of being ~32. Not music to be played while partying until sunrise but while drinking a couple of beers or glasses of wine and remembering when you were partying until sunrise (and the bands that moved you when you were 22).

Everything I've heard post-reunion (which is not a ton tbf, it's been so bad I'm not going to search out more) has been very going through the motions.