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"Big beast", to describe influential figures in political parties.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 11:41 (one year ago) link

Interesting about the meme phrases.

I have never heard 'no notes' or 'got milk'.

Poster Alba's satire of meme phrases above was very good.

Has no-one mentioned '(checks notes)'? The thing about this is - it's another dumb meme phrase, but it has a kind of use, and people who are good and sensible sometimes use it.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link

https://www.nydailynews.com/resizer/_kNj8h1DOIsNoGEejE44pzv2NIU=/800x1077/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/IAKHBZHVVM3VQQKY3HCTVPHQQ4.jpg

"got milk?" was an american ad campaign (for milk, obv) full of pictures of (american) celebs and sports stars like the above

koogs, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 07:28 (one year ago) link

I was aware of that but never quite understood it. Is 'got milk?' meant to mean 'have you got any milk?' Like if someone asks what you want to drink?

kinder, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:07 (one year ago) link

The intial Got Milk? phrase was created by the American advertising agency Goodby, Silverstein & Partners. In an interview in Art & Copy, a 2009 documentary that focused on the origins of famous advertising slogans, Jeff Goodby and Rich Silverstein said that the phrase almost didn't turn into an advertising campaign. According to The New York Times, people at Goodby, Silverstein "thought it was lazy, not to mention grammatically incorrect".[5]

The advertisements would typically feature people in various situations involving dry or sticky foods and treats such as cakes and cookies. The people then would find themselves in an uncomfortable situation due to a full mouth and no milk to wash it down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Gkqzxss8Ss

Number None, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 09:36 (one year ago) link

It’s probably been visited before, but “stepped foot into” instead of “set foot into” or “stepped into”. You don’t “step” your feet, jeez.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:45 (one year ago) link

Also “milk to wash it down” there makes me want to heave, but that’s just me.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 21:47 (one year ago) link

Me too. Is drinking glasses of milk solely the province of the very young and very old? I enjoy a variety of dairy products, but I can't remember the last time I drank milk. Probably when I was a teenager or younger. Meanwhile my 8-year-old child drinks it all the time and my septuagenarian father has either milk or red wine with just about every meal. Sometimes both, one after the other, in the same glass!

When I was a kid there was an ad campaign from the Canadian Milk Board (or whatever the body may be called) attempting to sell milk as a refreshing beverage. The ads simply said

"MILK ON... ICE".

I always thought "MILK... ON ICE" would make more sense, but I'm not in marketing.

Here's a promotional button that I have saved for about 35 years for just such an occasion as this.

https://i.imgur.com/IUGi9AC.jpg

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 14 July 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

I regret to inform you that this was the British equivalent:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN1r5vTznAs

Alba, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:19 (one year ago) link

i thought that was going to be this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvumt4BJpfk

(there's a Humphrey about...)

the milk marketing board also used to sponsor a round-Britain bike event, the Milk Race

koogs, Friday, 15 July 2022 17:13 (one year ago) link

Is drinking glasses of milk solely the province of the very young and very old? I enjoy a variety of dairy products, but I can't remember the last time I drank milk.

I feel like it definitely was by the 1980s ... hence the US advertising campaign to encourage more people to drink milk

sarahell, Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:16 (one year ago) link

Milk
It does a body good

i drink milk quite a lot, it's good for acid stomach and also i like how it tastes (like milk)

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinka_pinta_milka_day

has been described as one of the most successful advertising slogans of all time, though the consumption of milk per person generally decreased over the period it was used.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:21 (one year ago) link

I didn't know that slogan before the 'Drink-a Jar-a Wine-a-day' riff on it in Asterix...The Gladiator?

nashwan, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:25 (one year ago) link

In American novels of the early 20th-c I’m regularly coming across characters enjoying an ice-cold glass of buttermilk on a hot summer day. Now I grew up drinking milk at lunch and dinner and I still like it fine, but I just can’t imagine grabbing a frothy glass of buttermilk to cool off.

Sam Weller, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link

oh god i can. i love buttermilk so much.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

i had in my head that the "drinka pinta milka day" slogan was invented by salman rushdie but that was "go to work on an egg" and also it was fay weldon

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:36 (one year ago) link

salman rushdie was "naughty but nice" (important to use quote marks in that sentence.)

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Saturday, 16 July 2022 15:56 (one year ago) link

salman rushdie was "’naughty but nice’,” according to ledge

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:20 (one year ago) link

My parents bought my childhood home off the man who came up with “This is the age of the train”.

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:23 (one year ago) link

Blimey, he also did “milk has got a lotta bottle” and “I’m a secret lemonade drinker”

https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Rod_Allen_(advertising_executive)

Alba, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:26 (one year ago) link

the man who animated the sleepy penguin in the “this is the age of the train” ad used to live directly opposite me

he wasn't elvis costello's dad tho

mark s, Saturday, 16 July 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link

Julianna Margulies’ dad came up with ‘plop plop, fizz fizz/oh, what a relief it is!’ for Alka-Seltzer.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 16 July 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

Hoyt Axton's mother wrote (or cowrote) "Heartbreak Hotel." She was also completely unrelated to Elvis Costello, as far as I know.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 July 2022 21:16 (one year ago) link

I learned an interesting story yesterday about Elvis Costello’s mother getting contraband Lee Konitz records from the US through a Liverpudlian Merchant Marine who later changed his name to Michael Holliday and had a couple of number one UK hits.

L.H.O.O.Q. Jones (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 July 2022 00:47 (one year ago) link

Have you read his memoir? It's like 85% about his parentage and family history, 7% about being a person of Irish extraction, and like 5% about having created indelibly exciting New Wave music. Then another 3% of sheer random stuff he has to say about, like, early 20th century passenger ships.

If you open it expecting 300 pages of anecdotes about Nick Lowe or Paul McCartney or the Pogues or T-Bone Burnett, it's a disappointment. But if you just want to let him ramble it's fine.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 July 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

Something that gets used to death by a couple of the Blue Jays broadcasters: "approach," as in "he's got a great two-strike approach," or "I loved his approach in that at-bat." It's not meaningless, they just use it way too often.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 July 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link

more off-topic milk stuff. i forgot how big a thing the milk marketing board was in the 80s UK:

"Milk Cup – The first major trophy to be sponsored in English football was the League Cup, supported by the Milk Marketing Board between 1981 and 1986."

and

"The Milk Race was the most prestigious cycling event in the British calendar running for 35 years between 1958 and 1993 with sponsorship from the now disbanded Milk Marketing Board."

(the milk race used to come through tewkesbury when i was a lad. and the upcoming 2022 tour of britain is starting a stage there)

koogs, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:26 (one year ago) link

"after aligning internally,"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

sounds uncomfortable tbh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 1 August 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link

"i'm conscious of time"

sounds exhausting

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:00 (one year ago) link

lol

I don't find it annoying (yet?), but "gatekeeping" seems to be on the same route to ambiguity-via-overuse as gaslighting

rob, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:16 (one year ago) link

"We've decided to go in a different direction."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 14:31 (one year ago) link

They should do what they did in Dilbert

"Knock knock"
"Who's there?"
"Not you, anymore"

"We've decided to go in a different direction."

Ah, yes! We think your [choose one: a) idea b) experience c) talent] is really amazing and fabulous, but we've decided to go in a different direction; we think [stupid, clueless, no-talent] is a better fit for what we have in mind.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

"So the direction we've decided to go is . . . down."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 18:50 (one year ago) link

I don't find it annoying (yet?), but "gatekeeping" seems to be on the same route to ambiguity-via-overuse as gaslighting

― rob, Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:16 AM (yesterday)

It is definitely on the same route! It isn't as annoying because the original, potent meaning of gaslighting is a form of intimate abuse, whereas gatekeeping is bureaucratic in nature ... the annoyance (at least my annoyance) is less visceral.

Meanwhile, I have made peace with "ideate" and "cashflow" used as a verb.

However, I am currently annoyed by what I feel is the overuse of "trauma" and "healing"

sarahell, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

Gaskeeping meanwhile means holding in a fart

I lack gaskeeping capacity tbh

sarahell, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

"We've decided to go in a different direction."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtvGR8UX1L0

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link

"nerd blackface" to describe any show about geeks that insensitively portrays their culture.

like makes me want nerds to get beat up p much

i have not heard this term before. i don't think it will have a nice life.

sarahell, Saturday, 13 August 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

"it's a moveable feast"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 11:08 (one year ago) link

^^^needs my mum to pop her head in and explain at full length which feasts (meaning saints and holy days) are "moveable" and why and how, and how you calculate them

no one's lazy clichetron would survive the info-assault

mark s, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

iow RETVRN

mark s, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 11:48 (one year ago) link

"Capture" to describe a photograph. The comments section on Flickr is full of "Great capture!"

(Also, it sounds like an NPR show: The Takeaway, The Pulse, The Capture...)

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 13:35 (one year ago) link

I still quote 'this is the age of the train'.

Perhaps it still is!

I like the references upthread to people who made up slogans, plus Ross MacManus.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 15:04 (one year ago) link


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