Does it bother you when music gets associated with stupid tv shows/movies?

The songwriters and publishers certainly won't mind.

This discussion of “Hallelujah” now makes me want to go back and listen to the original, thx. Maybe now somebody can explain “Suzanne” to me, which I always thought of as a vastly inferior “Little Wing,” although I do like the Fairport Convention version and maybe the Roberta Flack one too.

Also Wikipedia WTF:

Martin Sharp wrote the lyrics for Cream's "Tales of Brave Ulysses" to the melody of this song, specifically the Judy Collins version. Eric Clapton later set Sharp's lyrics to his own music

This one’s for Leonard!

I’m sure it’s in a lot of tv shows and movies, so not a total derail, although I couldn’t tell you which.

A lot of that early 60's Pop sounded spooky and otherworldly to me before I ever saw a David Lynch film - he just kind of created a retroactive genre in the same way film noir or yacht rock did imo.

― Daniel_Rf

Since I first heard it I've thought that Dick and Dee Dee's "The Mountain's High" sounded particularly Lynchian.

Talking of Gerry Rafferty, I reckon 'The Ark' would make an amazing sync track for a movie.

”Tales of Brave Ulysses”

The crossover here is that Leonard-haters feel he has also been responsible for torturing their naked ears.

Appropriate well-chosen song + good film, obviously fine. May enhance pleasure of song.
Good song + bad film, also fine. This will pass from my mind and in the meantime I will shout at the screen to accuse the film of cheap piggybacking.
There are funny inbetween cases that stick in my mind tho'… like I was enjoying Palm Springs well enough, and then Barracuda by John Cale soundtracks a big montage… & I'm sort of thinking this is surprising and good to hear and I'm not sure it quite works, but actually maybe it does and it's great. Basically a slight dissonance or confusion means it's taken over Barracuda much more effectively than if it were a perfect or terrible choice.

Best version of "Suzanne":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N21472M8p9E

The visual realism of Malcom in the Middle was totally striking at the time, right?? Considering the dialogue was expositional and very stylized. It would have been a VERY different kind of show if they'd modeled its entire universe after a single "consumer aesthetic" like Frasier, or dressed everyone like a Banana Republic threw up.

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that's why I loved the show from the start - as someone who grew up lower-middle class in the Midwest their house & especially their wardrobe was very spot on. they really nailed the "whatever's cheapest at the thrift store" aspect. with some of Malcolm & Reese's shirts I swear I owned the same one

the first episode of Stranger Things has two Jefferson Airplane songs (plus Pearls Before Swine and the Seeds)

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I'd forgotten about the Seeds! When I first watched it I had to rewind to make sure I didn't imagine that.

Also, S3 finale has Jackie Wilson's "(You're Love Keeps Lifting Me) Higher And Higher."

Just read last night that Ivo wouldn't let the Amazing Spiderman film use This Mortal Coil despite the director (a big fan) begging him. That was a good call but why did This Mortal Coil appear on Brooker's Newswipe? Because hearing it over images of politicians is honestly one of the times a music usage has bothered me most.

It was like hearing my sacred music in an advert for dog shit

(Your personal feeling aside,) I’m not sure I see a disconnect: by 2010ish Ivo could plausibly have been familiar with and enjoying Brooker’s work for over a decade (TVGH started in 1999), vs probably not being so swept away by 500 Days Of Summer that the head of 4AD would give Sony a free pass at his own work?

It does, but not in the ownership sense. As the OP points out, whenever a song is revived by popular media the Youtube comments become flooded with "like this comment if you were brought here by (podcast / youtube streamer / film" etc. The occasionally witty comments are buried and the world becomes a blander, less interesting place. I suppose in the long run the new comments are displaced by a newer set of comments, but the flavour of the comments devolves from original jokes to flat cultural references.

For example, the comments underneath Aldous Harding's "The Barrel" on Youtube used to be funny. They amused me. Some of them made me wish I was as smart and witty as the commentator. So there was a mixture of pleasure (at the funny comment) and pain (at the knowledge that other people are funnier than me) and I find that combination appealing. In fact "The Barrel" itself is a mixture of pleasure and pain. Aldous Harding in general is a mixture of pleasure and pain. Pleasure, because she has a soothing voice, but pain, because she periodically sends me shards of broken glass in the post with sods of earth and enigmatic postcards that reference my failure to win XCOM: EW: Long War without cheating.

After three years the comments underneath that video have been diluted, but there are still gems. But imagine if the song was featured in a podcast, or a Youtube stream. The comments would just become page after page of "I heard this in (podcast)" or "I heard this in (youtube stream)" or "I heard this in (film)". Or "My former partner loved this song, we played it at our wedding (pause) she died, please click the like button". That would be pain and pain. Double pain.

Double pain, because that kind of comment is unentertaining, and it reinforces the sad fact that most people aren't interesting, and also that the vast majority of commentators on Youtube are spambots advertising something. Which is sad, because a world with boring people is a boring world.

You know, that's why I occasionally participate here at Ilxor. It has a mixture of people who are entertaining - but less entertaining than me, so they aren't intimidating - and people who really are more entertaining than me, but that's not so bad because Pagliacci needed a Pagliacci, do you know what I mean? He needed a super-Pagliacci who was a tier higher than him, and presumably super-Pagliacci needed a super-mega-Pagliacci, or perhaps something other than comedy amused him.

it reinforces the sad fact that most people aren't interesting

I think a lot of those commenters you’re referring to are like 12 years old; I wouldn’t base your concept of humanity around it.

Pagliacci? man I could not name a more suckass clown

xp I had an ex 10+ years ago say "They remind me of redneck boys from back home who just started using the internet" and ever since then I stopped being annoyed by it.

Watching Shining Girls on Apple TV now. It’s set in 90s Chicago, lots of hip musical posters and t-shirts—Jesus Lizard, Bikini Kill. Songs used on the show by Kleenex, Pylon, Orange Juice, Donnie & Jo Emerson, Pixies

wasn't there an episode of Better Call Saul where Kim Wexler is wearing headphones and they reveal that she is listening to Stereolab? I thought that was super cool

I don't mind the "x sent me here" thing at all because frequently enough x is something I've never heard of in my life and it's nice to know there's followings I'm totally unaware of hyping ppl to good songs.

Not sure what you all get out of reading Youtube comments, period

That's an awfully valid point.

tbh every once in a while I come across some good info in there not to be found anywhere else but in general of course you are correct.

This thread has caused me to go down a rabbit hole in my mind thinking about art and using music to enhance your own art and scores versus soundtracks blah blah blah I now I've come back on myself and decided not to go with any decision on this.

Not sure what you all get out of reading Youtube comments, period

Boomer reveries about perfect Summers with The One That Got Away on every 60's and 70's pop hit, fucking love those.

"And ever since that rainy afternoon in Brenda Wilmott's bedroom, I've never been able to listen to the Moody Blues' 'Timothy Leary Is Dead' the same way again."

I thought the use of Shellac's "The End of Radio" was awesome in that AP Bio episode. It was a funny episode anyway, but when I heard that kicking in, I about leaped out my chair dying that it was even there.

It was unexpected, to say the least.

The movie "Brick" (2005) ends with a big/audacious music cue that made me laugh in appreciation (as in, "I don't think any movie could pull this off, but I like that you went for it")

^^Cosign. Although it would have been more Punk Rock and fun if they'd used the Joy Division cover instead.