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My trick as a recorder with overdubbing lead guitars with people is to just "hey let's roll through it and just practice and work something out." I then just go ahead and record the 'practice one' anyway and sometimes it really works out as you get their idea as it happened. Of course, sometimes you try to then take a solo idea and then do it again with something else and it just cannot get back to the 'live one not thinking'.

My old band we often recorded the band while we practiced and quite a few cuts on our couple CDs the solo (along with the take) was live. Being able to have it setup and keep it setup really helps in that way, but sometimes you end up with a killer take that the snare mike was off center a bit.

The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Thursday, 16 June 2022 22:53 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I was planning to record some hard hitting tracks but ended up making some chill balearic techno instead. Pretty happy with how this came out and the process was about as painless as I've experienced lately.

https://soundcloud.com/moodlesmix/galactic-dancer

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Sunday, 17 July 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link

My and my buddy recorded this live the other night. He's got a pretty nice modular rig, and I was using my Peak, Streichfett, and Minilogue. Dunmurry is a Belfast reference since the arpeggiator reminded me of that Orbital track.

https://soundcloud.com/balboa-park/dunmurrry

DJI, Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link

Spent the last week teaching drums to 4 campers/girls/gender-expansive youth aged 12-16 and it gave me so much life. Their showcase performance was today and seeing them play (and hold their sticks properly) def highlight of my summer. So proud of them! And me tbh.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Sunday, 24 July 2022 20:58 (one year ago) link

Right on!

DJI, Sunday, 24 July 2022 21:23 (one year ago) link

impulsively bought an arturia minilab mkii on craigslist, been messing around with synthesizers on ableton live and learning music theory properly (i.e., by watching youtube videos) for the first time after 2 decades of being a punk doofus with only a rudimentary understanding of blues scales and the cycle of fifths acquired in adolescent guitar lessons

flopson, Sunday, 24 July 2022 22:02 (one year ago) link

hell yeah

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 24 July 2022 22:35 (one year ago) link

That's great LL! I've started teaching a few students, and while the lesson schedule has been very sporadic (hard to coordinate schedules + covid), it's been pretty rewarding so far.

I also took my first drum lesson in many years, focused purely on hand technique/mechanics (from Dev1n Dr0bka), and it was shocking useful. So nice to find someone who's both a great drummer and can also really break down and articulate those things, and it also really confirms that despite the glut of drumming videos on youtube/insta, there's really no substitute for an actual lesson with someone who can see what you're doing.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link

I'm receiving weird fan messages in my Soundcloud inbox from a person who is extremely familiar with my work, over the top fawning and uncomfortably personal

not sure if/how to respond

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 28 July 2022 07:58 (one year ago) link

Ask them for $400

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 28 July 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

as I lay awake in an uncomfortable couch bed for two hours last night trying to get my kid to fall asleep I remembered that my wife has a saxophone somewhere from high school band and decided that I'm going to learn to play "careless whisper"

joygoat, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link

Wow

My Little Red Buchla (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

my band has been practicing and playing shows on and off through the pandemic, but we're about to play a show where we debut two (!!!) new songs saturday. v excited, one of them is my favorite song we've ever written. hopefully gonna record an ep this fall

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

Beware: I think there's a note in the "Careless Whisper" sax solo that is technically impossible, yet it exists. That is, the highest note in the solo is normally outside the usable range of the instrument, and the saxophonist and engineer worked out some trickery.

There's an episode of https://strongsongspodcast.com/ about this. I forget the details but it involved either a different sax or speeding up the recording or some such. Maybe both.

Meanwhile I got two new instruments last week (coincidentally on the same day): a mandola and a 10" snare drum. I played both in open-mic settings over the last couple nights. The mandola is fun. I don't have a good enough ear to transpose on the fly, so I haven't yet had the courage to tune it to the correct CGDA, but it works fine as an octave mandolin, so I'm doing that. It's way better at that than my bouzouki is. Just a much more comfortable scale length for my chordal style.

The 10" Pearl M-80 (Short Fuse) snare is hilarious. I have it side-mounted on my hat stand and it is just so fucking cute. Saves setup time and weight. Tuned low with a Powerstroke 3 it gives tremendous snap. I am in love.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:52 (one year ago) link

i have definitely considered buying a very cheap saxophone and trying to learn how to play it. probably not realistic given that i live in an apartment, i know the sax is very loud

speaking of living in an apartment, i've been recording vocals for some songs and i've been working on sounding more energetic in my vocals. it's so embarrassing recording "energetic" vocals when i can hear my neighbors walking around upstairs. like i'm down here trying to get into a rockin frame of mind and meanwhile i can hear their floorboards creaking.

na (NA), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

re: "Careless Whisper": Found it! The note in question is a high F#. Steve Gregory's tenor sax did not have a high F# key. So he actually played it a half step down, and then they pitch-shifted it up.

so I went in the studio I tried to do it and my saxophone is an old Selmer (tenor sax) from about 1954 or something and I didn't have that top note. I didn't have a proper note on my saxophone, I had what we call a fake fingering I had to do to play it. So it didn't really sound that smooth. It didn't sound that great. And so having been around for a while, having had a bit of experience, I suggested to him, I said, 'look, if you took it down by a semitone, a very small amount, I'd have all the proper notes on my horn and we could see how it sounds. So that's what he did, he sort of did his calculations and took it down a semitone, so I went out again and I played it in a lower key and when after I finished it I went back into the control room and he played it back and he put it back up to the proper speed, and as he was playing it back, George walked into the studio, and he said 'Oh, I think we got it!'

The relevant Strong Songs discussion is about 46 minutes into this podcast https://strongsongspodcast.com/episode/clave-chorus-careless-whisper

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 July 2022 15:06 (one year ago) link

not sure where else to put this, but i just read this quote from brian eno in his promo for his upcoming solo album, and i think it captures some things about the meaning of making art

It took me a long time to embrace the idea that we artists are actually feelings-merchants. Feelings are subjective. Science avoids them because they’re hard to quantify and compare. But “feelings” are the beginnings of thoughts, and the long term attendants of them too. Feelings are the whole body reacting, often before the conscious brain has got into gear, and often with a wide lens that encompasses more than the brain is consciously aware of.

Art is where we start to become acquainted with those feelings, where we notice them and learn from them—learn what we like and don’t like—and from there they start to turn into actionable thoughts. Children learn through play; adults play through Art. Art gives you the space to “have” feelings, but it comes with an off-switch: you can shut the book or leave the gallery. Art is a safe place to experience feelings—joyous ones and difficult ones. Sometimes those feelings are about things we long for, sometimes they’re about things we might want to avoid.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Thursday, 28 July 2022 18:05 (one year ago) link

I've picked up my guitar for the first time in ??? and feel like I've lost all but the most basic basics - do any of yous have recommendations for not-quite-but-basically-beginner youtube lessons? Really I just want to be able to get my head around chords and scales and such without finding myself being forced to do blooze soloing and/or play Hey There Delilah.

I’ve started writing songs on my guitar and it’s hella fun

castanuts (DJP), Friday, 29 July 2022 02:48 (one year ago) link

everything I write sounds like I stole it from Iron Maiden but fuck if it's not fun anyway

Ask them for $400
haha, thanks Karl, that's not bad advice

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 09:03 (one year ago) link

recording energetic vocals at home can be super weird indeed, sometimes I drink a beer or two to loosen up, but mostly I just have fun imagining what the neighbours must be thinking

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

incredible careless whisper trivia, much appreciated

corrs unplugged, Friday, 29 July 2022 09:05 (one year ago) link

emil.y, I see Slum of Legs is playing a show with one of my pals tomorrow: Samantha Savage Smith. Wonderful band; the drummer Chris is an absolute gem of a human as well as a monster player. Hope the gig is a roaring success and you all end up as friends. It is indeed a small world.

― war mice (hardcore dilettante)

Sorry, I haven't been on this thread in ages so only just seen this! The show was a really great one, and the SSS band were super-lovely people, it was a damn good time. Say hi to them for me!

emil.y, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:36 (one year ago) link

Not much is going on in my musical life right now, tbh. I fell out of doing solo work during the pandemic, just had no motivation and I'm struggling to get it back. Being in a band is much easier that way, b/c even when you feel like you don't want to do it you have to pull yourself together for the sake of everyone else.

I have one idea that I really want to do but it kind of involves creating an entire new instrument and I have no skills in programming/making things. (NB when I say 'entire new instrument' it's more a case of doing something like creating a raspberry pi-based sample triggering system in a unique shell, but that's still wayyyy beyond my capabilities).

emil.y, Friday, 29 July 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link

I have one idea that I really want to do but it kind of involves creating an entire new instrument and I have no skills in programming/making things.

I sympathize heavily with this. I tried to do it and completely fell on my face with it, with a small dose of public humiliation. I’d probably do it again! It’s good to take chances :)

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Friday, 29 July 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

I fell into some commercial/spec work with a, like, really huge client. Trying not to think too much about actually winning the job or not, but it's interesting to get a view of this world.

It seems like synchronicity that I'd recently been spending time aimlessly recording my drums to cassette and trying to chop and mix it into good-sounding breakbeats, which turned out to be exactly what I need to use on this project.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 18:15 (one year ago) link

thats nice!

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 01:29 (one year ago) link

Work in the kitchen changing some stuff out pretty much has had my home studio in a wreck for a few weeks. I have not had my guitar amp on in almost 2 weeks, which is pretty unusual.

Two weeks ago I helped my bud in Louisville move to a new place and this house is going to be like going to record at the Power Station to make music after his old basement, which kinda had a bit of Buffalo Bill ambience going on. Supposed to go up next weekend to either do the vocal and guitar overdubs on the 3rd single or if the drummer is available, record the basic tracks for the 4th single. If the drummer can play, we go that way. We have played 3 days with him and have 3 singles recorded over the past year.

earlnash, Saturday, 6 August 2022 03:50 (one year ago) link

Wow fantastic news Jordan. Tell.

Tib, Wednesday, 10 August 2022 13:21 (one year ago) link

Thanks! It was a wild week of horn recording, many revisions, and not much sleep, but I'm proud of what we came up with in the end.

I definitely wouldn't want to do this on the regular, given the amount of work vs the demo fee and presumably very stiff competition. But it was a great challenge. Apparently it's getting presented to the client today (can't say who of course), so cross all your fingers for us!

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link

Fingers crossed!

Tib, Thursday, 11 August 2022 07:18 (one year ago) link

How did it go?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 13 August 2022 03:59 (one year ago) link

It was submitted and presented, but we haven't heard anything yet. Not sure if no news is good, bad, or just no news, but we're trying not to get our hopes up since I'm sure the competition is very fierce. It must take some real mental gymnastics to do this frequently -- to work as hard as you can on something, and then instantly detach from it.

So I'm back to prosaic concerns like drum technique, which I'm pursuing more systematically than I have before. Now that I can feel a real difference in my hands after applying some things from that lesson, I started a daily practice where I'm doing continuous 16th notes with my non-dominant hand (straight and accented) for a minimum of 1 minute. Started at 72 bpm and I'm trying to go up 1 bpm per day, I've got a spreadsheet and everything. It's amazing how much more valuable 5 minutes of super-mindful 'micropractice' is than just messing around for much longer, and only playing what feels comfortable. It really feels like a weightlifting program (or I imagine it does, having never done one).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link

The practice diary thing I'm sure is boring to everyone besides me, but the "do it continuously for 1 minute" thing has been revelatory. You can get away with bad technique for shorter bursts, letting tension creep in at the end, but doing it for that long really reveals any flaws in the motion. So cool to actually see improvement.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:31 (one year ago) link

I like this idea!

DJI, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link

I’ve been doing that for years!! My practice diary is a notebook in the basement. I could be more diligent about it for sure but I love my routine. Feels like home!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

That's great! I've never been that systematic about it, lol. Practicing rudiments, sure. Turning on the metronome sometimes, sure. I would do 4s/8s/16s per hand, but never made it time-based or did the daily tempo thing (or wrote anything down).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link

I had to get up to a passable speed quickly as a late starter and the routine helped me get there. Without the luxury of time, diligence is the best accelerant :)

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:24 (one year ago) link

This is really good reinforcement, from both of you! recently i started doing a similar thing -- one or two minute bursts of playing guitar scales with a metronome, gradually increasing the tempo, and then keeping track of progress (i use a spreadsheet because i like making silly homemade charts for myself).

i started doing it, for maybe 4 days, and then i stopped. this is a good reminder to keep going with it! i was already seeing improvements after only a few days and it was very satisfying.

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:36 (one year ago) link

Technically it's my friends doing the music, but I am the star of their new, professionally shot music video.

It doesn't become accessible until 3:30 PM tomorrow (Eastern time)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2ChDo3l94I

Weltanschauung Dunston (Neanderthal), Friday, 19 August 2022 22:48 (one year ago) link

It's up!

Toonie Orlando (Neanderthal), Saturday, 20 August 2022 19:50 (one year ago) link

Good luck, Jordan!

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 21 August 2022 17:22 (one year ago) link

Well we didn't get the Big Gig, but it was always going to be a long shot (it was the new theme for an American professional sp0rts organization). Still learned a lot about mixing, horns, collaboration, and deadlines.

Back to practicing and full editorial control. :)

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 22 August 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link

...

(I showed that video to my wife, and now it's in her head and she sings it constantly, which means it's in my head constantly and it's a feedback loop)

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 14:33 (one year ago) link

sorry

i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 20:15 (one year ago) link

Ha not your fault, this has been going on for weeks

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 24 August 2022 20:48 (one year ago) link

-I got up to 82 bpm in my practice routine and hit the inevitable wall that exposed all the flaws in my technique, which is great. Now I've made some improvements and I'm taking the tempo way down, until it hopefully feels super relaxed and consistent.

-I started a label! Even though my interest in promoting music is at an all-time low. But it's been germinating for months, and I'll be much more excited to release and promote other people's music starting with the second release.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link

Link didn't work https://limitedresourceslabel.bandcamp.com/releases

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 1 September 2022 20:55 (one year ago) link


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